Catholic Heresy (for the record)
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Okay Bro let's dance! The Arab nations have an important link to God, but it is not a war lord (Mohamed) backed by his rich uncle! Their heritage traces directly back to no less than Abraham through Ishmael. Islam is a perversion and a counterfeit of the "Great Nation" spoken about by the angel that appeared to Hager and Ishmael as they departed from Abraham's camp.
Your jihad and Shari law are filthy rags in the eyes of the God of the universe, fall down on your knees and repent. That you may be showered in the cleansing rain of Gods grace. Satan has tossed this twisted and violent religion into the pack quite late in the game, but it does not fool those who understand the history of God's desire to connect to his creation.
As far as the Koran goes, it's two books written by one man in his life time, please don't even mention it in the same discussion as the Bible, 66 historical recounts and letters, many from eye witnesses over thousands of years. I look forward to the days when our Muslim friend receive the revelation of God great love and longing for them through the sacrifice of his beloved son on the cross of Calvary.
Your jihad and Shari law are filthy rags in the eyes of the God of the universe, fall down on your knees and repent. That you may be showered in the cleansing rain of Gods grace. Satan has tossed this twisted and violent religion into the pack quite late in the game, but it does not fool those who understand the history of God's desire to connect to his creation.
As far as the Koran goes, it's two books written by one man in his life time, please don't even mention it in the same discussion as the Bible, 66 historical recounts and letters, many from eye witnesses over thousands of years. I look forward to the days when our Muslim friend receive the revelation of God great love and longing for them through the sacrifice of his beloved son on the cross of Calvary.
Except for the fact you have a supposedly Christian Pope who is to be worshiping Jesus Christ, i.e., GOD. Therefore, Christians and Muslims do not worship the same God as your Pope claimed. And you can't worm out of it by simply claiming the "God of Abraham" because the Trinity is also in the Old Testament. God has never changed.
What your Pope said was a lie. Plain and simple.
Which proves John Paul II was Satanic. No Christian would ever show such "respect" for a book that has caused, and is causing, the eternal damnation of hundreds of millions of people!
It's a book that deserves to be burned, not kissed.
What utter blasphemy! You actually dare to equate Jesus "hanging around" with sinners, to the kissing of, and "respect" shown, to a book, that is satanically inspired to lead men to hell!
I fear greatly for your soul. You need to fall on your face in repentance before it's too late. Get out of that apostate church before it brings about your eternal ruination.
What your Pope said was a lie. Plain and simple.
Which proves John Paul II was Satanic. No Christian would ever show such "respect" for a book that has caused, and is causing, the eternal damnation of hundreds of millions of people!
It's a book that deserves to be burned, not kissed.
What utter blasphemy! You actually dare to equate Jesus "hanging around" with sinners, to the kissing of, and "respect" shown, to a book, that is satanically inspired to lead men to hell!
I fear greatly for your soul. You need to fall on your face in repentance before it's too late. Get out of that apostate church before it brings about your eternal ruination.
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Your claim that you write your replies out of love rings hollow Jimbone. You, Valiant, KenAllen, MikeHenderson , MEC and others have continually replied to Catholic's in venomous and derisive speech and exhibited hatred beyond the pale. This is what happens when people argue the Great Schism, the difference ending at the accusations of Satanism, heresy and hating God. I have read the OP from the site owner and understood it and never once tried to lead others to the Catholic faith. I've never even argued who's right and who's wrong but rather have tried to help people understand why I believe what I believe when asked. The thing I've taken issue with is the accusations hurled that I'm following Satan and I hate God for what I believe. That is very offensive to me as it would be to you.
Actually, I came to this site two years ago because I am searching - always - for the correct pathways to the Mind of God. But I have to say, if I was ever considering a more "Protestant" approach to my faith (and I was), I'm not anymore! I'm high tailing it back to the Vatican. If anything, I'm reaffirmed in my faith. If that's happening to me then I can only imagine what's happening to others unsure of their faiths direction.
Speech is free, but has consequences. Maybe if you guys direct your responses to to Fordman on a PM or some other personal level, it might be better for others reading the thread.
And I'm writing this knowing full well the accusations will commence right after I hang up here. So.... - as you were.... God bless.
Actually, I came to this site two years ago because I am searching - always - for the correct pathways to the Mind of God. But I have to say, if I was ever considering a more "Protestant" approach to my faith (and I was), I'm not anymore! I'm high tailing it back to the Vatican. If anything, I'm reaffirmed in my faith. If that's happening to me then I can only imagine what's happening to others unsure of their faiths direction.
Speech is free, but has consequences. Maybe if you guys direct your responses to to Fordman on a PM or some other personal level, it might be better for others reading the thread.
And I'm writing this knowing full well the accusations will commence right after I hang up here. So.... - as you were.... God bless.
What you do is violate the bible.
Ephesians 5:11
New International Version
Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.
If you read and see a picture of Pope bow before the Mary statue, it is a darkness. Expose it. it is what bible instruct us to do.
bow before the graven image is violation.
Exodus 20
[SUP]4[/SUP] Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
[SUP]5[/SUP] Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Bible design for love.
That why to expose the darkness is to love. It my save people from hell.
The bible instruct us to expose the darkness. People who expose the darkness have a love.
People that won't expose the darkness doesn't have a love. He do not care other being cheat by Vatican.
To discourage expose the darkness is discourage people to obey bible instruction. It is not love but hatred.
Ephesians 5:11
New International Version
Have nothing to do with the fruitless deeds of darkness, but rather expose them.
If you read and see a picture of Pope bow before the Mary statue, it is a darkness. Expose it. it is what bible instruct us to do.
bow before the graven image is violation.
Exodus 20
[SUP]4[/SUP] Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth:
[SUP]5[/SUP] Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;
Bible design for love.
That why to expose the darkness is to love. It my save people from hell.
The bible instruct us to expose the darkness. People who expose the darkness have a love.
People that won't expose the darkness doesn't have a love. He do not care other being cheat by Vatican.
To discourage expose the darkness is discourage people to obey bible instruction. It is not love but hatred.
Sorry you feel that way man, but you keep coming back for more and more of it. Why? I think "high tailing it back to the Vatican" might be the best thing for you. I'll stand here with Jesus Christ ALONE. Good luck man.
I do understand your problem with "accusations of Satanism", I don't agree with that approach, and do actually regret the way I started off that last comment you called me out on. I let my emotions over ride my love. I was wrong, but it was truly making a point about the comment I was responding to, just a VERY BAD way to try to make that point. I apologize to all I offended with it.
I do understand your problem with "accusations of Satanism", I don't agree with that approach, and do actually regret the way I started off that last comment you called me out on. I let my emotions over ride my love. I was wrong, but it was truly making a point about the comment I was responding to, just a VERY BAD way to try to make that point. I apologize to all I offended with it.
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Yes we deride the Roman Catholic church because it is heretical, deceitful, unscriptural and has its hands covered with blood. If you were really seeking truth you would have discovered this, so I don't actually believe what you say. Its errors are so clear that only a fool would fail to understand them and turn from them. So you're right you won't get much sympathy here. To talk of venom is stupid. I never write with venom. But nor do I hold back on the truth. It is then for you to determine truth, And if you have high-tailed back to your heretical church, it is clear that you are a stranger to truth. That is not out fault.
Allow me. Sexual abuse is far more rampant in Protestant churches than in the RC Church, as a quick internet search of recent news demonstrates...
United Methodist minister gets prison for sexually abusing boy for 10 years
Norman (Ted) Faux started abusing the child at age 9 and continued the abuse for years, all while the former minister was HIV positive, eventually plying the boy with drugs in exchange for sex,
July 28 - Former minister gets prison for decade-long sex abuse of boy - NY Daily News
Waukesha pastor accused of sexually assaulting a child at his church
Knebel served as a pastor at Fox River Christian Church in Waukesha. He also admitted to committing other violations against children in the past, officials say.
July 27 - Waukesha pastor, former school bus driver accused of sexually assaulting a child at his church | FOX6Now.com
Evangelical pastor arrested for sex abuse after being found with 13-year-old girl in backseat of a car
A California youth pastor has been accused of sexually abusing a 13-year-old girl after police found him in the backseat of a car with her on a highway turn out. Ren is charged with five counts including: sex crimes with a child under 14; sodomy with a child under 14; oral copulation with a child under 14; penetration with a foreign object with a child; and kidnapping.
July 16 - Evangelical pastor arrested for sex abuse after being found with 13-year-old girl in backseat of a car
Longmont evangelical church elders sentenced for failure to report sex abuse allegations against youth pastor
BOULDER, Colo. - Four leaders of a Longmont church have been sentenced for failing to report sexual-assault allegations against the church's youth pastor in 2013.
Vinelife youth pastor Jason Roberson,36, had an inappropriate relationship with a church member starting when she was 15 and continuing for seven years. Roberson pleaded guilty and was sentenced last year to two years in prison for sexual exploitation and stalking.
July 24 - Longmont church elders sentenced for failure to report abuse - 7NEWS Denver TheDenverChannel.com
Evangelical Church pastor pleads guilty to charges involving him in pedophilia ring
Dawid Volmer, 41, from Banksia Grove, also known as David Volmer, appeared in a Perth court earlier this month and pleaded guilty to 12 offences including indecent dealing and sexual penetration of a child.
July 27 - Police smash alleged Perth paedophile ring as eight charged with 503 offences against 13-year-old girl - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
From trusted pastor to child predator
Richmond Mega Church Pastor Geronimo Aguilar guilty of sexually assaulting two young girls when he was their youth pastor in Fort Worth,
From trusted pastor to child predator | WRIC
Broward pastor guilty in sex abuse case involving little boy
Jurors took just 3 1/2 hours Tuesday to find Jeffery London, a church youth pastor, guilty of a federal sex abuse charge.London, 51, showed no visible reaction to the verdict. He faces 10 years to life in federal prison when he's sentenced in August for using a cellphone to lure an underage boy into sexual activity.
London served as youth pastor at the Bible Church of God in Fort Lauderdale.
Broward pastor and charter school official convicted of federal sex crime involving underage boy - Sun Sentinel
Evangelical church pastor arrested for sex abuse of two minors
Washington;
On Saturday a 16-year-old girl reported to the Metropolitan Police Department that on three occasions, beginning in December 2014, she was a victim of Best who also acts as pastor of God of a Second Chance Ministry Church in Southeast D.C. Best was arrested in Largo, Maryland after an investigation.
D.C. police officer and pastor arrested for sex abuse of two minors - WTOP
And on and on and on and on and on.
Those stories just from recent weeks, and there's many many more stories of pastors in Protestant churches sexually abusing children. Hundreds of stories from this year alone.
United Methodist minister gets prison for sexually abusing boy for 10 years
Norman (Ted) Faux started abusing the child at age 9 and continued the abuse for years, all while the former minister was HIV positive, eventually plying the boy with drugs in exchange for sex,
July 28 - Former minister gets prison for decade-long sex abuse of boy - NY Daily News
Waukesha pastor accused of sexually assaulting a child at his church
Knebel served as a pastor at Fox River Christian Church in Waukesha. He also admitted to committing other violations against children in the past, officials say.
July 27 - Waukesha pastor, former school bus driver accused of sexually assaulting a child at his church | FOX6Now.com
Evangelical pastor arrested for sex abuse after being found with 13-year-old girl in backseat of a car
A California youth pastor has been accused of sexually abusing a 13-year-old girl after police found him in the backseat of a car with her on a highway turn out. Ren is charged with five counts including: sex crimes with a child under 14; sodomy with a child under 14; oral copulation with a child under 14; penetration with a foreign object with a child; and kidnapping.
July 16 - Evangelical pastor arrested for sex abuse after being found with 13-year-old girl in backseat of a car
Longmont evangelical church elders sentenced for failure to report sex abuse allegations against youth pastor
BOULDER, Colo. - Four leaders of a Longmont church have been sentenced for failing to report sexual-assault allegations against the church's youth pastor in 2013.
Vinelife youth pastor Jason Roberson,36, had an inappropriate relationship with a church member starting when she was 15 and continuing for seven years. Roberson pleaded guilty and was sentenced last year to two years in prison for sexual exploitation and stalking.
July 24 - Longmont church elders sentenced for failure to report abuse - 7NEWS Denver TheDenverChannel.com
Evangelical Church pastor pleads guilty to charges involving him in pedophilia ring
Dawid Volmer, 41, from Banksia Grove, also known as David Volmer, appeared in a Perth court earlier this month and pleaded guilty to 12 offences including indecent dealing and sexual penetration of a child.
July 27 - Police smash alleged Perth paedophile ring as eight charged with 503 offences against 13-year-old girl - ABC News (Australian Broadcasting Corporation)
From trusted pastor to child predator
Richmond Mega Church Pastor Geronimo Aguilar guilty of sexually assaulting two young girls when he was their youth pastor in Fort Worth,
From trusted pastor to child predator | WRIC
Broward pastor guilty in sex abuse case involving little boy
Jurors took just 3 1/2 hours Tuesday to find Jeffery London, a church youth pastor, guilty of a federal sex abuse charge.London, 51, showed no visible reaction to the verdict. He faces 10 years to life in federal prison when he's sentenced in August for using a cellphone to lure an underage boy into sexual activity.
London served as youth pastor at the Bible Church of God in Fort Lauderdale.
Broward pastor and charter school official convicted of federal sex crime involving underage boy - Sun Sentinel
Evangelical church pastor arrested for sex abuse of two minors
Washington;
On Saturday a 16-year-old girl reported to the Metropolitan Police Department that on three occasions, beginning in December 2014, she was a victim of Best who also acts as pastor of God of a Second Chance Ministry Church in Southeast D.C. Best was arrested in Largo, Maryland after an investigation.
D.C. police officer and pastor arrested for sex abuse of two minors - WTOP
And on and on and on and on and on.
Those stories just from recent weeks, and there's many many more stories of pastors in Protestant churches sexually abusing children. Hundreds of stories from this year alone.
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What happen above is individual sex abuse.
What happen bellow is gang rape by a group of priest, high rank priest, and happen in the Holiest catholic place.
Remember it is a group of high rank priest. It mean there is compromised among them.
[h=1]Emanuela Orlandi Was 'Kidnapped For Vatican Sex Parties,' Claims Father Gabriele Amorth[/h]
Posted: 05/22/2012 5:52 pm EDT Updated: 05/24/2012 5:12 pm EDT
The Holy See was directly involved in thedisappearance of 15-year-old Emanuela Orlandi in 1983, according to a contentious accusation by the Catholic Church's leading exorcist. The Rev. Gabriele Amorth claimed that the girl's kidnapping was a "crime of a sexual nature."
"Parties were organized, with a Vatican gendarme acting as the 'recruiter' of the girls," Amorth told La Stampa, according to a translation by The Telegraph. "The network involved diplomatic personnel from a foreign embassy to the Holy See. I believe Emanuela ended up a victim of this circle."
Amorth, who was appointed by Pope John Paul II and has carried out tens of thousands of exorcisms, is no stranger to controversial public statements; according to The Sun, the exorcist has called Harry Potter the "work of the devil," and has claimed "the devil was at work in the Vatican" when discussing the Catholic Church's sex scandals.
Clues to the missing girl's whereabouts had pointed in several directions, including toward a Turkish gunman who attempted to assassinate Pope John Paul II, The Telegraph reports.
On May 14, one rumor led Italian police to exhume the grave of Enrico De Pedis, a member of Rome's Magliana mob who was killed in 1990, the Associated Press reports. A one-time girlfriend previously said De Pedis committed the kidnapping, and an anonymous call to a television show in 2005 suggested clues on Orlandi's fate lay in the dead mobster's tomb in Basilica of Sant’Apollinaire. A set of bones not belonging to De Pedis were found, but the identity of the remains has yet to be released.
The Vatican insists it has done everything in its power to help solve the mystery of the missing girl.
What happen bellow is gang rape by a group of priest, high rank priest, and happen in the Holiest catholic place.
Remember it is a group of high rank priest. It mean there is compromised among them.
[h=1]Emanuela Orlandi Was 'Kidnapped For Vatican Sex Parties,' Claims Father Gabriele Amorth[/h]
Posted: 05/22/2012 5:52 pm EDT Updated: 05/24/2012 5:12 pm EDT
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The Holy See was directly involved in thedisappearance of 15-year-old Emanuela Orlandi in 1983, according to a contentious accusation by the Catholic Church's leading exorcist. The Rev. Gabriele Amorth claimed that the girl's kidnapping was a "crime of a sexual nature."
"Parties were organized, with a Vatican gendarme acting as the 'recruiter' of the girls," Amorth told La Stampa, according to a translation by The Telegraph. "The network involved diplomatic personnel from a foreign embassy to the Holy See. I believe Emanuela ended up a victim of this circle."
Amorth, who was appointed by Pope John Paul II and has carried out tens of thousands of exorcisms, is no stranger to controversial public statements; according to The Sun, the exorcist has called Harry Potter the "work of the devil," and has claimed "the devil was at work in the Vatican" when discussing the Catholic Church's sex scandals.
Clues to the missing girl's whereabouts had pointed in several directions, including toward a Turkish gunman who attempted to assassinate Pope John Paul II, The Telegraph reports.
On May 14, one rumor led Italian police to exhume the grave of Enrico De Pedis, a member of Rome's Magliana mob who was killed in 1990, the Associated Press reports. A one-time girlfriend previously said De Pedis committed the kidnapping, and an anonymous call to a television show in 2005 suggested clues on Orlandi's fate lay in the dead mobster's tomb in Basilica of Sant’Apollinaire. A set of bones not belonging to De Pedis were found, but the identity of the remains has yet to be released.
The Vatican insists it has done everything in its power to help solve the mystery of the missing girl.
So because other people have abused children, that clears the horrible things the RC priest have done? Try that in court, "yea judge I know I'm in here for hurting a child but other people have also done it so can we just forget it?". What kind of logic are you and Maynard using here? I personally condemn EVERYONE that abuses children, I can't just excuse some of them because I see them as "my team" (which is a bit disturbing in itself to consider them you're team), all these abusers are dead wrong and deserve to be condemned. Can you not see that the bottom line is you're defending child molesters? Sick no matter who you are in my opinion and I can promise you won't see me in here defending any of these monsters by pointing my finger in a different direction. Y'all should honestly rethink this argument.
If this is the "church" you're always talking about and defending then I'm glad you didn't share your story with me either man.
If this is the "church" you're always talking about and defending then I'm glad you didn't share your story with me either man.
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