Catholic Heresy (for the record)

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See mwc68, all you want to do is belittle people who are not Catholic.

Lets see mwc68, you claim to have received Salvation but yet you reject what God says in the Scriptures. You teach doctrines of the Catholic Church and refuse to show any Scriptures to back up those Doctrines. You malign Christians who listen to the Truth from the Holy Spirit and call then our opinions. You refuse to provide absolutely proof of anything you say from the Scriptures.

When will you realize that doing the works of Satan is not what God wants you to do? How is it doing the Will of the Father when you call the Holy Spirit a liar and say Mary was without sin? How is it doing the Will of the Father when you call the Holy Spirit a liar and say Salvation is only received from the Catholic Church? How is it doing the Will of the Father when you call the Holy Spirit a liar and say praying to Mary is not Idolatry?
I've always considered it your opinion because you seem like a holier than thou Christian and I really have no desire to associate with those. I have really long hair and some spiritual tattoos I'm sure you wouldn't approve of and I'm glad. Snobby,better than you, judgmental people always make me go the other way and run
 
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Tourist, I know a lot about the Catholic faith.

1. They teach Salvation is received by Baptism.
2. They teach you cannot receive Salvation if you are not in the Catholic Church.
3. They teach that Mary can hear our prayers and answer our prayers.
4. They teach Mary was without sin.
5. They teach Mary was assumed into Heaven.
6. They teach Catholics have to spend time in Purgatory to cleanse themselves of the "stain" of their sins.

None of these 6 items are to found in the Scriptures. These Doctrines of the Catholic faith are not from God.

How can any Catholic expect to Inherit the Kingdom of God if they keep on following the lies from the Catholic Church and reject the Truth from God?

All Catholics who pray the "Hail Mary" to Mary are guilty of committing Idolatry and will never be allowed to enter into Heaven.

Show me tourist where in the Scriptures does the Holy Spirit say Salvation is received by being Baptized.
Show me tourist where in the Scriptures does the Holy Spirit say you have to be in the Catholic Church to receive Salvation.
Show me tourist where in the Scriptures does the Holy Spirit say that Mary can hear our prayers
Show me tourist where in the Scriptures does the Holy Spirit say Mary can answer our prayers.
Show me tourist where in the Scriptures does the Holy Spirit say Mary was WITHOUT SIN.
Show me tourist where in the Scriptures does the Holy Spirit say Mary was assumed into Heaven.
Show me tourist where in the Scriptures does the Holy Spirit say we are to spend time in purgatory for our sins.
Show me tourist where in the Scriptures in its entirety is the "Hail Mary" prayer!

I know for a absolute fact these were made up by the Catholics because they hate the Scriptures and hate what the Scriptures teach that oppose what they want to believe!
 
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Its interesting how the Catholics always say its our opinion about what the Holy Spirit teaches in the Scriptures. Have you noticed how the Catholics reject the Truth from God and try to deceive us with the teachings of the Catholic Church which everybody know are lies from Satan?

The Catholics have been given a GREAT opportunity to be with Jesus Christ in Heaven. But yet all they want to do is wallow in their filth and attack the True Christians who are the chosen ones of God.

Do you Catholics not know that praying the "Hail Mary" will keep you out of Heaven?

No where in the Scriptures is the "Hail Mary" in its entirety. Show us where in its entirety is the "Hail Mary" in the Scriptures. Show us book, Chapter, and verse where it is.

I can tell you its not in the Scriptures because what the Catholics did was pull words out of several verses and pieced them together to make up the "Hail Mary" prayer.

Any fool can pull words out of the Scriptures, out of context, and create anything THEY want them to say.
 
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Its interesting how the Catholics always say its our opinion about what the Holy Spirit teaches in the Scriptures. Have you noticed how the Catholics reject the Truth from God and try to deceive us with the teachings of the Catholic Church which everybody know are lies from Satan?

The Catholics have been given a GREAT opportunity to be with Jesus Christ in Heaven. But yet all they want to do is wallow in their filth and attack the True Christians who are the chosen ones of God.

Do you Catholics not know that praying the "Hail Mary" will keep you out of Heaven?

No where in the Scriptures is the "Hail Mary" in its entirety. Show us where in its entirety is the "Hail Mary" in the Scriptures. Show us book, Chapter, and verse where it is.

I can tell you its not in the Scriptures because what the Catholics did was pull words out of several verses and pieced them together to make up the "Hail Mary" prayer.

Any fool can pull words out of the Scriptures, out of context, and create anything THEY want them to say.
Thanx for admitting that's what you do with your Osas, and tongues, and your prohibition against infant baptism, rapture. None of this is in scripture and you believe it anyway
 
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Acts 2:1-4
[SUP]1 [/SUP] When the Day of Pentecost had fully come, they were all with one accord in one place.
[SUP]2 [/SUP] And suddenly there came a sound from heaven, as of a rushing mighty wind, and it filled the whole house where they were sitting.
[SUP]3 [/SUP] Then there appeared to them divided tongues, as of fire, and one sat upon each of them.
[SUP]4 [/SUP] And they were all filled with the Holy Spirit and began to speak with other tongues, as the Spirit gave them utterance.


Why mwc68 do you reject everything the Holy Spirit says in the Scriptures. Here is verses showing the Disciples speaking in TONGUES!


There is none so blind as those who refuse to accept the Truth from the Holy Spirit and that includes you also mwc68.


There is no prohibition against infant Baptism, but the child will have to be re-Baptized later on in life when he receives Salvation.
 

Elizabeth619

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I find it interesting that you Elizabeth619 believe that bringing the Truths from the Holy Spirit to the Catholics is bullying them. So do you believe then that Paul was bullying people when he brought the Truth in the Scriptures to the World?

We are to bring the Truth to the World and that also includes the Catholics.
Paul had kindness and compassion. You don't. You attack anyone who doesn't agree with your hateful attitude. You are a bully.
 

valiant

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Thanx for admitting that's what you do with your Osas, and tongues, and your prohibition against infant baptism, rapture. None of this is in scripture and you believe it anyway
no doubt you will present me with the Scriptures which TEACH infant baptism? You are always badly lacking in evidence, and never try to show why these doctrines are wrong. Because you can't All you can do is agree with Jehovah's Witnesses.
 
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no doubt you will present me with the Scriptures which TEACH infant baptism? You are always badly lacking in evidence, and never try to show why these doctrines are wrong. Because you can't All you can do is agree with Jehovah's Witnesses.
No doubt you will provide us with the scripture FORBIDDING infant baptism! The JW thing is a cheap shot, all you have, because I had no idea that was a JW
 

valiant

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No doubt you will provide us with the scripture FORBIDDING infant baptism! The JW thing is a cheap shot, all you have, because I had no idea that was a JW
But it shows that your doctrines are in line with those of JWs.

You cannot forbid what has never happened. There is no infant baptism in the Bible.
 
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I am not Catholic but..

Here is my testimony of a Catholic Priest.

There was a man who had a solid education and good Job but had a nervous breakdown became an alcoholic and lost everything he had previously cherished, home, wife and even his children.

One day after 5 years of living on the Streets, eating out of dustbins and being genuinely reviled he went into a church to pray. This became a regular thing (mostly to rest and get out of bad weather).

This church was Catholic

Over time he met the local priest.

Instead of giving him advice he gave him the keys to the upstairs flat above the church, where he lived rent free.

The priest contacted Doctors, took him to appointments, gave him fresh clothing and organised interim Social Security.

Despite this the alcoholic man regularly fell off the wagon and the Priest endured nearly 2 years of on/off alcoholism related abuse until finally this man got cleaned up and began to listen.

He taught this man about Jesus but never insisted that the alcoholic homeless man became a Catholic or even attend mass.

The Catholic priest set up a food kitchen and homeless drop in centre during this period.

Over time the homeless man became self sufficient, overcame addiction and began to Love God. He rented a home of his own and to this day is free from alcohol (3 years) smoking, exercises daily and cherishes The Word.

He has numerous Catholic friends but noticed that some of the Catholic Dogma did not feel right to the inner man which the Priest understood and they remained close friends.

This man is me

When people sleep rough they often visit churches for rest and because it is safe.

Over the 5 years (2004-2009) I slept rough, I mostly left a church as soon as anybody else came in because of the complaints!

The Catholic Priest through the working of Our Lord decided I deserved a new life.

Other faiths had various responses..Waste of space. Drop Out. Making them feel guilty, how dare I !!!

The Lord is Good and chose a Catholic to help me.

Now I work (where led), to help others in my area.

No religion is perfect.

Protestant religions are just as hypocritical. Teaching Tongues and Ministerial Healing. Making a mockery of our faith through charlatans and TV evangelism. Teachings of Once Saved always Saved. Say this prayer and you are forever saved. All claim to be the only true light. All claim others are Frauds. Some have other idols, mostly money or vanity based, instead of Mary. Christians boasting of insight while holding to prosperity teachers or having fancy holidays while people in the world starve!

Sometimes the hypocrisy of Christians amazes me..oh so quick to debase, everything upside down priorities mostly motivated by self and pride!
 
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But it shows that your doctrines are in line with those of JWs.

You cannot forbid what has never happened. There is no infant baptism in the Bible.
Then please explain the households in the book of Acts that were baptised? Are you saying there were no children or infants in these houeholds?
 
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Actually JUSTNE1 its the Catholic Church that makes a mockery of God and His Truths.

Example, God has said that ALL have sinned but yet the Catholics teach Mary was without sin.

You do know that praying to Mary is Idolatry JUSTNE1?

Its interesting you dump on the Church that is from God and defend the Church that is from Satan.

Will you ever open your eyes up and see the Truth in the Scriptures that the Catholic Church rejects?

Do you really think only YOU have had a rough life? There are millions of people helped out by the True Christians who follow God only!

How dare you put down True Children of God to build up the corrupted Catholic Church!

You really need to get on your knees and repent! You really need to accept the Salvation Jesus Christ has for you!

Its people like you who have given a bad name to Christianity!
 
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There is nothing wrong with Baptizing Infants mwc68. But this is NOT how we receive Salvation. In fact John the Baptist said we needed to repent first then be Baptized.

How can a Infant repent mwc68?

It cannot!

All the people who were Baptized as Infants need to repent and be Baptized again. Because Baptism as Infants does not give them Salvation.
 
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JUSTNE1

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I give Christians no name, I have no denomination. I am a child of God.

I was broken and put back together. I have no qualms about telling you that you come across as one spiteful, nasty piece of work.
I know I have the Blessings of the Spirit. I tell the truth. I learn from God not men.
I do not like to stoke flames of division joining to the mob mentality of hate among brothers, which all believers in Jesus are!
I agree that Mary Worship is odd, so is calling a Priest Father etc but I can still Love them!
You don't even know Love!
 
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I am not Catholic but..

Here is my testimony of a Catholic Priest.

There was a man who had a solid education and good Job but had a nervous breakdown became an alcoholic and lost everything he had previously cherished, home, wife and even his children.

One day after 5 years of living on the Streets, eating out of dustbins and being genuinely reviled he went into a church to pray. This became a regular thing (mostly to rest and get out of bad weather).

This church was Catholic

Over time he met the local priest.

Instead of giving him advice he gave him the keys to the upstairs flat above the church, where he lived rent free.

The priest contacted Doctors, took him to appointments, gave him fresh clothing and organised interim Social Security.

Despite this the alcoholic man regularly fell off the wagon and the Priest endured nearly 2 years of on/off alcoholism related abuse until finally this man got cleaned up and began to listen.

He taught this man about Jesus but never insisted that the alcoholic homeless man became a Catholic or even attend mass.

The Catholic priest set up a food kitchen and homeless drop in centre during this period.

Over time the homeless man became self sufficient, overcame addiction and began to Love God. He rented a home of his own and to this day is free from alcohol (3 years) smoking, exercises daily and cherishes The Word.

He has numerous Catholic friends but noticed that some of the Catholic Dogma did not feel right to the inner man which the Priest understood and they remained close friends.

This man is me

When people sleep rough they often visit churches for rest and because it is safe.

Over the 5 years (2004-2009) I slept rough, I mostly left a church as soon as anybody else came in because of the complaints!

The Catholic Priest through the working of Our Lord decided I deserved a new life.

Other faiths had various responses..Waste of space. Drop Out. Making them feel guilty, how dare I !!!

The Lord is Good and chose a Catholic to help me.

Now I work (where led), to help others in my area.

No religion is perfect.

Protestant religions are just as hypocritical. Teaching Tongues and Ministerial Healing. Making a mockery of our faith through charlatans and TV evangelism. Teachings of Once Saved always Saved. Say this prayer and you are forever saved. All claim to be the only true light. All claim others are Frauds. Some have other idols, mostly money or vanity based, instead of Mary. Christians boasting of insight while holding to prosperity teachers or having fancy holidays while people in the world starve!

Sometimes the hypocrisy of Christians amazes me..oh so quick to debase, everything upside down priorities mostly motivated by self and pride!
May God always Bless you and thank you so much for your inspirational story!!!
 

blue_ladybug

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You cannot claim to be a christian, and still follow or believe in the catholic beliefs and practices.. just sayin'...
 
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JUSTNE1

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I am a child of God, non denominational. I love People..period.
I have read the bible numerous times and in various translations. Have you??
Catholic/protestant whatever, we all go wrong and sin so people need to sweep there own homes before chastising others.

Are you anointed to call your brothers in Christ names??
Do you submit wholely and without error to the obedience's revealed within scripture?
Peace to you, peace, love and more peace!
 

valiant

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Then please explain the households in the book of Acts that were baptised? Are you saying there were no children or infants in these houeholds?
It says they BELIEVED and were baptised. Infants CANNOT believe. It is referring to those old enough to believe
 

Jackson123

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I am not Catholic but..

Here is my testimony of a Catholic Priest.

There was a man who had a solid education and good Job but had a nervous breakdown became an alcoholic and lost everything he had previously cherished, home, wife and even his children.

One day after 5 years of living on the Streets, eating out of dustbins and being genuinely reviled he went into a church to pray. This became a regular thing (mostly to rest and get out of bad weather).

This church was Catholic

Over time he met the local priest.

Instead of giving him advice he gave him the keys to the upstairs flat above the church, where he lived rent free.

The priest contacted Doctors, took him to appointments, gave him fresh clothing and organised interim Social Security.

Despite this the alcoholic man regularly fell off the wagon and the Priest endured nearly 2 years of on/off alcoholism related abuse until finally this man got cleaned up and began to listen.

He taught this man about Jesus but never insisted that the alcoholic homeless man became a Catholic or even attend mass.

The Catholic priest set up a food kitchen and homeless drop in centre during this period.

Over time the homeless man became self sufficient, overcame addiction and began to Love God. He rented a home of his own and to this day is free from alcohol (3 years) smoking, exercises daily and cherishes The Word.

He has numerous Catholic friends but noticed that some of the Catholic Dogma did not feel right to the inner man which the Priest understood and they remained close friends.

This man is me

When people sleep rough they often visit churches for rest and because it is safe.

Over the 5 years (2004-2009) I slept rough, I mostly left a church as soon as anybody else came in because of the complaints!

The Catholic Priest through the working of Our Lord decided I deserved a new life.

Other faiths had various responses..Waste of space. Drop Out. Making them feel guilty, how dare I !!!

The Lord is Good and chose a Catholic to help me.

Now I work (where led), to help others in my area.

No religion is perfect.

Protestant religions are just as hypocritical. Teaching Tongues and Ministerial Healing. Making a mockery of our faith through charlatans and TV evangelism. Teachings of Once Saved always Saved. Say this prayer and you are forever saved. All claim to be the only true light. All claim others are Frauds. Some have other idols, mostly money or vanity based, instead of Mary. Christians boasting of insight while holding to prosperity teachers or having fancy holidays while people in the world starve!

Sometimes the hypocrisy of Christians amazes me..oh so quick to debase, everything upside down priorities mostly motivated by self and pride!
Similar thing happen in Buddhist boarding house in Indonesia.

Give free housing to the poor. I read Indonesian news paper, the Jakarta vice governor visit this housing and praise the cleanliness this housing.

It doesn't make Buddha not a false religion.

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Father Gabriele Amorth, who was appointed by the late John Paul II as the Vatican's chief exorcist and claims to have performed thousands of exorcisms, said Emanuela Orlandi was later murdered and her body disposed of.

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The debate over who kidnapped Emanuela and what became of her has raged in Italy for three decades.