Catholic Heresy (for the record)

[mwc68]

Since Jesus was standing right there when he said this, I doubt very much if he was talking about them eating of his actual flesh and drinking his blood. Of course it was symbolism, and he was using the metaphor to explain what was going to happen to him on the cross.

This whole nonsense of transubstantiation is a total lie. Take it out of your mouth sometime, and see that the wafer is still a wafer. If it was the "actual" body of Christ, would it not look like flesh?

And only transubstantiated by the priest? Kind of keeps you in bondage to a priest, doesn't it? That is part of the whole problem with the RCC. It is rites and rituals, and salvation through and by men. Regardless of how much people claim they are following Christ.

You have a right to your opinion

 

[mwc68]

Matt 26
26 While they were eating, Jesus took bread, and when he had given thanks, he broke it and gave it to his disciples, saying, “Take and eat; this is


Now show me a scripture that said Jesus cut his own body.

Also prove to me that in your communion, the bread turn to meat and wine turn to blood.

You show me the scripture that says its a symbol. Your scripture says it IS my body.

 

[Jackson123]

You show me the scripture that says its a symbol. Your scripture says it IS my body.

He took bread and said this is my body.

He not took His body and said it it my body.

Now show me in the scripture that said He cut his body.

And show me that bread turn to meat in your communion.

 

[mwc68]

Come on dude show me the scripture where it says this is a symbol. Funny you bible worshippers demand scripture from me and when you have no scriptural proof, you make it up. Nice job!

 

[Jackson123]

Come on dude show me the scripture where it says this is a symbol. Funny you bible worshippers demand scripture from me and when you have no scriptural proof, you make it up. Nice job!

I did,

Now your turn to prove that bread in your church turn to meat.

 

[mwc68]

I did,

Now your turn to prove that bread in your church turn to meat.

So you doubt God? You like the church of Jackson where you make it up as you go? You have not shown one scripture that says The Lords Supper is symbol. Why even do it? Just a symbol right? Must have been for those stupid people way back when

 

[Jackson123]

So you doubt God? You like the church of Jackson where you make it up as you go? You have not shown one scripture that says The Lords Supper is symbol. Why even do it? Just a symbol right? Must have been for those stupid people way back when

I did show the verse.

And I not doubt to Jesus.

I don't believe the bread in your church turn to meat.

Give me a prove dude.

 

[KenAllan]

2 Timothy 3:16-17
[SUP]16 [/SUP] All Scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness,
[SUP]17 [/SUP] that the man of God may be complete, thoroughly equipped for every good work.

God gave us His Scriptures to read and study Pumicestone.

Mark 12:10
[SUP]10 [/SUP] Have you not even read this Scripture:
Luke 4:21
[SUP]21 [/SUP] And He began to say to them, "Today this Scripture is fulfilled in your hearing."

John 7:38
[SUP]38 [/SUP] He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his heart will flow rivers of living water."

Luke 24:27
[SUP]27 [/SUP] And beginning at Moses and all the Prophets, He expounded to them in all the Scriptures the things concerning Himself.

Jesus Christ quoted from the Scriptures Pumicestone!

The Scriptures came from God and Jesus Christ quoted from the Scriptures and it was the Holy Spirit who told the writers what to write Pumicestone.

Since you have rejected the Scriptures you also have rejected Jesus Christ. Do you not know Pumicestone that because of this you cannot enter into Heaven?

 

[KenAllan]

If the Catholics refuse to accept what God says in the Scriptures then arguing about the Lord's Supper is a waste of time because their minds are made up that they know more than what God knows.

You will never win a debate with the Catholics because they believe the Catholic Church has Truths that God does not have. The Catholics have put the teachings of the Popes and Bishops way above the Truth from God.

They will never listen, they will never learn, and they will never enter into Heaven.

Its so sad that the Catholics are so willing to walk into the Lake of Fire for the Catholic Church.

 

[MikeHenderson]

So if I read this right mwc68, everyone who teaches the Truth from the Scriptures is only an opinion of theirs?

Are you really that deceived by Satan that you are so willing to condemn you Soul to eternity in Hell just to oppose the Teachings of God mwc68?

 

[MikeHenderson]

You are wasting your time Ken by trying to bring the Gospel of salvation to the Catholics on this site. Mwc68 will never listen to what you say because he has never listened to what God has said in the Scriptures. If he will not listen to God then what chance then will he listen to you?

I'm not trying to pick on you Ken but you need to focus on those who are willing to at least listen to what you say. The Catholics will never listen to the Truth from God because they have Mary as their God and the Catholic Church as their Truth.

Even Jesus Christ told us there will be those who do not care for the Truth. We are to shake off the dirt from their house when we leave. God does not want us to waste our time on the Catholics who refuse to listen.

Let mwc68 believe what he wants to believe. He is the one who will regret it later after he dies. But for the time being let him wallow in his filth and be happy for now.

Its interesting that 99% of the Catholics will not listen to or accept what God says in the Scriptures, The 1% that does are called Protestants by the Catholics. Satan has a strangle hold on the Catholic Church and the Catholics.

 

[mwc68]

You are wasting your time Ken by trying to bring the Gospel of salvation to the Catholics on this site. Mwc68 will never listen to what you say because he has never listened to what God has said in the Scriptures. If he will not listen to God then what chance then will he listen to you?

I'm not trying to pick on you Ken but you need to focus on those who are willing to at least listen to what you say. The Catholics will never listen to the Truth from God because they have Mary as their God and the Catholic Church as their Truth.

Even Jesus Christ told us there will be those who do not care for the Truth. We are to shake off the dirt from their house when we leave. God does not want us to waste our time on the Catholics who refuse to listen.

Let mwc68 believe what he wants to believe. He is the one who will regret it later after he dies. But for the time being let him wallow in his filth and be happy for now.

Its interesting that 99% of the Catholics will not listen to or accept what God says in the Scriptures, The 1% that does are called Protestants by the Catholics. Satan has a strangle hold on the Catholic Church and the Catholics.

Spoken like a true self righteous zealot. You are the close minded one sir. I have watched you people tear the Church down and 99% of the time you get the doctrines you are supposed to hate wrong. I am glad my church doesn't teach me to hate my brothers and sisters in Christ.By the way, your bible is missing 7 books, so I doubt many of you have read the whole bible

 

[mwc68]

So if I read this right mwc68, everyone who teaches the Truth from the Scriptures is only an opinion of theirs?

Are you really that deceived by Satan that you are so willing to condemn you Soul to eternity in Hell just to oppose the Teachings of God mwc68?

Why does it bother you so much that I am Catholic? It doesn't bother me that you are protestant, except for the misleading lies being told about the church.

 

[valiant]

Spoken like a true self righteous zealot. You are the close minded one sir. I have watched you people tear the Church down and 99% of the time you get the doctrines you are supposed to hate wrong. I am glad my church doesn't teach me to hate my brothers and sisters in Christ.By the way, your bible is missing 7 books, so I doubt many of you have read the whole bible

Sorry about that. Jesus lost them from my Bible. He obviously hadn't consulted the Roman Catholic church.

 

[valiant]

Why does it bother you so much that I am Catholic? It doesn't bother me that you are protestant, except for the misleading lies being told about the church.

well maybe now AT LAST you will provide Scriptural support for the following:

growth of RC doctrine (some dates are approximate)
1 . Prayers for the dead . …………-------------------……300 A.D.
2. Making the sign of the cross ………………………… …300 A.D.
3. Veneration of angels & dead saints …………---------…….375 A.D.
4. Use of images in worship………………………………… . 375 A.D.
5. The Mass as a daily celebration……………………………… 394 A.D.
6 Beginning of the exaltation of Mary; the term, "Mother of God" applied a Council of Ephesus……………. .----------------------------------------- 431 A.D.
7 Extreme Unction (Last Rites)……………………………… ..526 A.D.
8. Doctrine of Purgatory-Gregory 1…………………………… .593 A.D..
9. Prayers to Mary & dead saints ……………………………… .600 A.D.
10. Worship of cross, images & relics ……………………… … 786 A.D.
11 Canonization of dead saints ………………………………… ..995 A.D.
12. Celibacy of priesthood …………………………………… …1079 A.D.
13. The Rosary ……………………………………………… … 1090 A.D.
14. Indulgences ……………………………………………… …..1190 A.D.
15. Transubstantiation-Innocent III …………………………… 1215 A.D.
16. Auricular Confession of sins to a priest …………………… 1215 A.D.
17. Adoration of the wafer (Host)…………………………… .. 1220 A.D.
18. Cup forbidden to the people at communion …………………..1414 A.D.
19. Purgatory proclaimed as a dogma……………………………..1439 A.D.
20. The doctrine of the Seven Sacraments confirmed …………….1439 A.D.
21 Tradition declared of equal authority with Bible by Council of Trent…………………………………………----------------… 1545 A.D.
22. Apocryphal books added to Bible ………------------……….1546 A.D.
23. Immaculate Conception of Mary……………………………….1854 A.D.
24, Infallibility of the pope in matters of faith and morals, proclaimed by the Vatican Council ……………… 1870 A.D.
25. Assumption of the Virgin Mary (bodily ascension into heaven shortly after her death) ……………………………-----------------------------------……1950 A.D.
26. Mary proclaimed Mother of the Church……………………… 1965 A.D.

 

[mwc68]

Sorry about that. Jesus lost them from my Bible. He obviously hadn't consulted the Roman Catholic church.

So, Martin Luther and King James are your Jesus? Got it

 

[mwc68]

well maybe now AT LAST you will provide Scriptural support for the following:

growth of RC doctrine (some dates are approximate)
1 . Prayers for the dead . …………-------------------……300 A.D.
2. Making the sign of the cross ………………………… …300 A.D.
3. Veneration of angels & dead saints …………---------…….375 A.D.
4. Use of images in worship………………………………… . 375 A.D.
5. The Mass as a daily celebration……………………………… 394 A.D.
6 Beginning of the exaltation of Mary; the term, "Mother of God" applied a Council of Ephesus……………. .----------------------------------------- 431 A.D.
7 Extreme Unction (Last Rites)……………………………… ..526 A.D.
8. Doctrine of Purgatory-Gregory 1…………………………… .593 A.D..
9. Prayers to Mary & dead saints ……………………………… .600 A.D.
10. Worship of cross, images & relics ……………………… … 786 A.D.
11 Canonization of dead saints ………………………………… ..995 A.D.
12. Celibacy of priesthood …………………………………… …1079 A.D.
13. The Rosary ……………………………………………… … 1090 A.D.
14. Indulgences ……………………………………………… …..1190 A.D.
15. Transubstantiation-Innocent III …………………………… 1215 A.D.
16. Auricular Confession of sins to a priest …………………… 1215 A.D.
17. Adoration of the wafer (Host)…………………………… .. 1220 A.D.
18. Cup forbidden to the people at communion …………………..1414 A.D.
19. Purgatory proclaimed as a dogma……………………………..1439 A.D.
20. The doctrine of the Seven Sacraments confirmed …………….1439 A.D.
21 Tradition declared of equal authority with Bible by Council of Trent…………………………………………----------------… 1545 A.D.
22. Apocryphal books added to Bible ………------------……….1546 A.D.
23. Immaculate Conception of Mary……………………………….1854 A.D.
24, Infallibility of the pope in matters of faith and morals, proclaimed by the Vatican Council ……………… 1870 A.D.
25. Assumption of the Virgin Mary (bodily ascension into heaven shortly after her death) ……………………………-----------------------------------……1950 A.D.
26. Mary proclaimed Mother of the Church……………………… 1965 A.D.

Look it up yourself

 

[MikeHenderson]

Its interesting mwc68 that you claim the Catholic Church doesn't teach you to hate people. Then how do you explain the millions of Jewish people that was Murdered by the Catholic Church for refusing Catholicism and for refusing to become Catholics?

You can deny it all you want but there is innocent blood on the hands of the Catholic Church.

Also how about the war against the Jewish people by Hitler than was supported and funded by the Catholic Church where millions were killed?

All the Catholic Church has done is murder Innocent people that have refused to accept being a Catholic.

Where in the Scriptures mwc68 did God ever tell us to murder people for refusing to become a Catholic?

You can deny it all you want but there is innocent blood on the hands of the Catholic Church.

 

[valiant]

Originally Posted by valiant

Sorry about that. Jesus lost them from my Bible. He obviously hadn't consulted the Roman Catholic church.

So, Martin Luther and King James are your Jesus? Got it

sometimes you reveal yourself as pathetic. this is one of them. Jesus acknowledged the OT Scriptures. He never acknowledged the Apocrypha.

 

[mwc68]

Its interesting mwc68 that you claim the Catholic Church doesn't teach you to hate people. Then how do you explain the millions of Jewish people that was Murdered by the Catholic Church for refusing Catholicism and for refusing to become Catholics?

You can deny it all you want but there is innocent blood on the hands of the Catholic Church.

Also how about the war against the Jewish people by Hitler than was supported and funded by the Catholic Church where millions were killed?

All the Catholic Church has done is murder Innocent people that have refused to accept being a Catholic.

Where in the Scriptures mwc68 did God ever tell us to murder people for refusing to become a Catholic?

You can deny it all you want but there is innocent blood on the hands of the Catholic Church.

I didn't do any of that! The church has had bad men rule before. I know that is not the case now and an apolgy has been made. Doesn't excuse why you hate us against Christs command