Catholic Heresy (for the record)

[blue_ladybug]

Jesus is God, God is Mary creator. Jesus exist before Mary, How then Mary mother of God. Did your mother exist before you?

You're right that Mary was Jesus' mother, and that God created her along with the rest of the humans. BUT Jesus did NOT exist before Mary did. Jesus was God in human form, thus Jesus only existed after he was immaculately conceived..

and btw, yes my mother DID exist before I was born..lol..

 

[kennethcadwell]

You're right that Mary was Jesus' mother, and that God created her along with the rest of the humans. BUT Jesus did NOT exist before Mary did. Jesus was God in human form, thus Jesus only existed after he was immaculately conceived..

and btw, yes my mother DID exist before I was born..lol..

Well yes and no on this !!!

Jesus in the flesh did not exist before Mary, but Jesus in the form called the Spirit of the Lord did exist.
Also another term given for Jesus is the Word;

John 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.

 

[Pumicestone]

OK, 'Devils Advocate', if there was nothing super-special about Mary, why was she chosen for the role ?

Protestants seem to agree that she was a 'sinner'. Surely there were heaps of similar women around at the time.
With an acceptable lineage - (which seems to have importance for some).

 

[mwc68]

You're right that Mary was Jesus' mother, and that God created her along with the rest of the humans. BUT Jesus did NOT exist before Mary did. Jesus was God in human form, thus Jesus only existed after he was immaculately conceived..

and btw, yes my mother DID exist before I was born..lol..

The immaculate conception was not Jesus. It is a common misunderstanding

 

[mwc68]

OK, 'Devils Advocate', if there was nothing super-special about Mary, why was she chosen for the role ?

Protestants seem to agree that she was a 'sinner'. Surely there were heaps of similar women around at the time.
With an acceptable lineage - (which seems to have importance for some).

I often wonder this! Even if you don't believe she is what i believe she is, you have to acknowledge that God considers way more important than other women. Luke 1:46-55. We call this magnificant.Mary even prophesises that all generations shall call me Blessed! Only one church i know of still does this according to scripture.

 

[MikeHenderson]

The immaculate conception was invented by the Catholics to justify their Worship of Mary.

Show me mwc68 where in the Scriptures does God say Mary was without sin? I can tell you right now its not in the Scriptures! It never was in the Scriptures and it is NOT from God!

This is a ploy by the Catholics to deceive people into following Mary AS THEIR GOD!

All the Scriptures say Mary was blessed among women, NOT ABOVE WOMEN! Mary IS NOT more important then other women!

Do you see how the evil corrupted Catholic try to make Mary their GOD?

If Mary was so Important mwc68 they why did she fade from the scene? We rarely see Mary in the Scriptures, in fact we see more of Mary Magdalene in the Scriptures than of Mary the Catholics Worship!

You are a fool mwc68 for spitting in God's eye and promoting Mary ABOVE GOD!

 

[mwc68]

The immaculate conception was invented by the Catholics to justify their Worship of Mary.

Show me mwc68 where in the Scriptures does God say Mary was without sin? I can tell you right now its not in the Scriptures! It never was in the Scriptures and it is NOT from God!

This is a ploy by the Catholics to deceive people into following Mary AS THEIR GOD!

All the Scriptures say Mary was blessed among women, NOT ABOVE WOMEN! Mary IS NOT more important then other women!

Do you see how the evil corrupted Catholic try to make Mary their GOD?

If Mary was so Important mwc68 they why did she fade from the scene? We rarely see Mary in the Scriptures, in fact we see more of Mary Magdalene in the Scriptures than of Mary the Catholics Worship!

You are a fool mwc68 for spitting in God's eye and promoting Mary ABOVE GOD!

You are a fool and an occultist who claims he can read minds! Be gone satan

 

[MikeHenderson]

But you are following Satan mwc68.

I have the Discernment of Spirits mwc68, its a gift I received when I received the Indwelling of the Holy Spirit.

"Discerning of spirits is the supernatural ability given by the Holy Spirit to perceive the source of a spiritual manifestation and determine whether it is of God (Acts 10:30-35), of the devil (Acts 16:16-18), of man (Acts 8:18-23), or of the world. It is not mind reading, or psychic phenomena."

I can tell if a person has received Salvation or not because it is revealed to me by the Holy Spirit.

And you mwc68 have not received Salvation.

 

[MikeHenderson]

I do not need to read your mind mwc68 because the Holy Spirit has revealed to me that you have not received Salvation.

 

[MikeHenderson]

Get thee behind me mwc68! Its you who are following and Worshiping Satan!

 

[KenAllan]

Mike might be correct about mwc68. All i see is mwc68 talking about Mary this and Mary that. I see very little where mwc68 mentions anything about God and what God can do for us. It seems its all about Mary and what Mary can do for us that mwc68 is talking about.

 

[mwc68]

Get thee behind me mwc68! Its you who are following and Worshiping Satan!

so, you admit to being a mindreader? That is of Satan, and sir you know NOTHING about me! All you post is propaganda bullet points that have nothing to do with me! And i get to be insulted by you after your vile dribble

 

[blue_ladybug]

The immaculate conception was not Jesus. It is a common misunderstanding

dude, are you serious?!! If it wasn't Jesus immaculately conceived of Mary, then who was it? Santa Claus? lol

 

[mwc68]

Mike might be correct about mwc68. All i see is mwc68 talking about Mary this and Mary that. I see very little where mwc68 mentions anything about God and what God can do for us. It seems its all about Mary and what Mary can do for us that mwc68 is talking about.

Welll Ken, i feel you are infatuated with Mary since that is ALL you ask me about! And you say all I talk about is Mary? Quit asking about her and Ill stop talking about her, hypocrite!

 

[mwc68]

dude, are you serious?!! If it wasn't Jesus immaculately conceived of Mary, then wTheho was it? Santa Claus? lol

The immaculate conception refers to Mary's birth, not Jesus. Please look it up.

 

[blue_ladybug]

The immaculate conception refers to Mary's birth, not Jesus. Please look it up.

wut?!! man you are misguided. MARY was not the begotten of God. Jesus was.. wow!!

 

[mwc68]

You people can't even get the dogma(you're supposed to hate)right! This is priceless! Kinda like country musician telling a Metal musician how to play guitar! Ain't gonna work!

 

[Jackson123]

You're right that Mary was Jesus' mother, and that God created her along with the rest of the humans. BUT Jesus did NOT exist before Mary did. Jesus was God in human form, thus Jesus only existed after he was immaculately conceived..

and btw, yes my mother DID exist before I was born..lol..

1. Jesus is alpha and omega. the beginning and the end. Mean exist away before Mary.

2. I make mistake on my question, I mean did you exist before your mother?

 

[kennethcadwell]

OK, 'Devils Advocate', if there was nothing super-special about Mary, why was she chosen for the role ?

Protestants seem to agree that she was a 'sinner'. Surely there were heaps of similar women around at the time.
With an acceptable lineage - (which seems to have importance for some).

I am not protestant but to answer your question there does not have to be anything more special about a person then another for God to choose them..............

The bible all throughout it shows God choose people who were guilty of murder and prostitution to do His will.
Just because Mary was chosen to be the carrier of God in the flesh, our Lord Jesus Christ does not mean she was any more special or sinless then any other person. The bible makes it clear only one person who walked this earth was sinless, and that was the Lord Himself.

Moses was raised and Egyptian that persecuted others and even murdered another man, yet he was chosen by God for a major purpose in God's plan.........

Rahab was a prostitute that was chosen by God to do His will and protect the Israelites that came to her..........

Apostle Paul who was charged to be the main Apostle to the Gentiles was a murder and persecutor of other Christians before chosen by God to do this..............

So nowhere does the bible say a person has to be special as in sinless, or be walking properly to be used........

 

[mwc68]

wut?!! man you are misguided. MARY was not the begotten of God. Jesus was.. wow!!

Like I said,, its a common misunderstanding. Please do some research. If you're gonna criticize dogma, please find out what you are critisizing before you pile on!