Looking for a traditional girl..

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Mitspa

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Shannon50 said:
There is nothing wrong with you fantasizing about the types of women you believed lived in the past--- meaning it's probably normal--- women do it too--- but just realize that no woman will fit your ideal because even Christian women are human and aren't perfect---

--in any woman if you are intelligent enough to see their worth and value them then they will grow in beauty (inwardly and outwardly) :D So happy hunting!
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No one said perfect...and the term was "traditional" in the biblical sense :)
 
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You Canadian girls have way too much attitude ... :(
 
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Mitspa said:
Is it offensive for a guy to desire a more traditional type girl, or to admire those qualities that we have seen in the woman who are from a previous generation?
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It shouldn't be offensive. Every person should have the right to seek a wife/husband based on what they value in a person.
 
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Tippicanoe said:
Hi Mitzpa,
I don't think your question is offensive at all. I also wondered about this same question in relation to a male partner. I think it's fair to assume that you think only prior generations had a devotion such as the one you're hoping to find; however, it doesn't have as much to do with someone's generation, but with the character of the individual we choose in a relationship. Many people from prior generations married & divorced and sadly even Christians. It would be great if we, God's children, would heed his word & live it. I made the mistake of being unequally yolked in marriage. It takes time to really get to know someone. I hope you are true to what you desire in a relationship - keeping in mind that you will have to provide your end of the Biblical description of the husband you should be to a wife. God bless.
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Amen.

One's generation really has nothing to do with it as there's nothing new under the sun. There have been godly and ungodly men and women since the beginning of creation.

Ecclesiastes chapter 7 verse 10

Say not thou, What is the cause that the former days were better than these? for thou dost not inquire wisely concerning this.
 
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Mitspa said:
Is it offensive for a guy to desire a more traditional type girl, or to admire those qualities that we have seen in the woman who are from a previous generation?
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If you find such a traditional type girl, then your desire won't be offensive to her. My advice to you would be to concentrate on being the traditional type guy first or else you'll only do such a traditional type girl harm if you do find her.

Proverbs chapter 31 verses 10 thru 31

Who can find a virtuous woman? for her price is far above rubies.
The heart of her husband doth safely trust in her, so that he shall have no need of spoil.
She will do him good and not evil all the days of her life.
She seeketh wool, and flax, and worketh willingly with her hands.
She is like the merchants' ships; she bringeth her food from afar.
She riseth also while it is yet night, and giveth meat to her household, and a portion to her maidens.
She considereth a field, and buyeth it: with the fruit of her hands she planteth a vineyard.
She girdeth her loins with strength, and strengtheneth her arms.
She perceiveth that her merchandise is good: her candle goeth not out by night.
She layeth her hands to the spindle, and her hands hold the distaff.
She stretcheth out her hand to the poor; yea, she reacheth forth her hands to the needy.
She is not afraid of the snow for her household: for all her household are clothed with scarlet.
She maketh herself coverings of tapestry; her clothing is silk and purple.
Her husband is known in the gates, when he sitteth among the elders of the land.
She maketh fine linen, and selleth it; and delivereth girdles unto the merchant.
Strength and honour are her clothing; and she shall rejoice in time to come.
She openeth her mouth with wisdom; and in her tongue is the law of kindness.
She looketh well to the ways of her household, and eateth not the bread of idleness.
Her children arise up, and call her blessed; her husband also, and he praiseth her.
Many daughters have done virtuously, but thou excellest them all.
Favour is deceitful, and beauty is vain: but a woman that feareth the LORD, she shall be praised.
Give her of the fruit of her hands; and let her own works praise her in the gates.

 
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I declare that I am that traditional and godly man...so thanks for the advice of the last post...:).
 
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TapiBox said:
A Proverbs 31 woman?
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The foundation if the book of proverbs is the law ..and many great truths can be seen there....but I would think a woman yielded to the Holy Spirit would be the big catch. :)
 
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Mitspa said:
lol...I must admit that thread kinda inspired this one...when I seen how outraged some of the generally very kind ladies on this forum, went into attack mode.... so I thought I might gain some understanding as to why this issue stirs up these normally mild and kind women :)
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uh huh...well now that the beans have been spilled regarding what that submission was actually about, I hope you have blushed and decided not to pursue it any further

The issue got stirred up, because the WOMEN who read the op KNEW something was wrong and most men who thought it was wonderful, did not realize something was wrong

Some men look for a bride overseas..because they have a far more subservient attitude with regards to marriage

Perhaps that is what some men actually want...a woman who bows when serving meals and who questions nothing

I'm not making fun...if that is what you want, maybe you ought to search outside North America
 
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ember said:
uh huh...well now that the beans have been spilled regarding what that submission was actually about, I hope you have blushed and decided not to pursue it any further

The issue got stirred up, because the WOMEN who read the op KNEW something was wrong and most men who thought it was wonderful, did not realize something was wrong

Some men look for a bride overseas..because they have a far more subservient attitude with regards to marriage

Perhaps that is what some men actually want...a woman who bows when serving meals and who questions nothing

I'm not making fun...if that is what you want, maybe you ought to search outside North America
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lol your so funny :)

When did I even suggest I wanted a women like that? I would like to find one that don't think the bible reads "husbands yield to your wives and the sooner the better" :p
 
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Mitspa said:
lol your so funny :)

When did I even suggest I wanted a women like that? I would like to find one that don't think the bible reads "husbands yield to your wives and the sooner the better" :p
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ok...I'm beginning to think that when you use the word funny, you don't mean it made you laugh

well I was in the middle of typing another post to someone when I had to get 3 phone calls in a row so I just got back
and didn't quite get to respond properly...so...

This:

You Canadian girls have way too much attitude ... :(
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doesn't help either...well, moving on

When did I even suggest I wanted a women like that? I would like to find one that don't think the bible reads "husbands yield to your wives and the sooner the better" :p
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I don't think that is the way the Bible reads...but, IMO, too many men stop reading just before men are told what their part is...so, kindly don't put a label on me just yet...my husband (who was one of the phone calls) will tell you I'm a little hard to label haha

so...haha...speaking of funny...I think you are kind of contradicting yourself throughout yr thread here, but it is yr thread after all...
 
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ok...I'm beginning to think that when you use the word funny, you don't mean it made you laugh

well I was in the middle of typing another post to someone when I had to get 3 phone calls in a row so I just got back
and didn't quite get to respond properly...so...

This:



doesn't help either...well, moving on



I don't think that is the way the Bible reads...but, IMO, too many men stop reading just before men are told what their part is...so, kindly don't put a label on me just yet...my husband (who was one of the phone calls) will tell you I'm a little hard to label haha

so...haha...speaking of funny...I think you are kind of contradicting yourself throughout yr thread here, but it is yr thread after all...
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No contradictions...just a little humor mixed in the conversation....and yes when I say funny that's because some one makes me laugh


So where is the contradiction? Maybe you don't understand where Im coming from?
 
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Mitspa said:
The foundation if the book of proverbs is the law ..and many great truths can be seen there....but I would think a woman yielded to the Holy Spirit would be the big catch. :)
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I would think that the foundation of the book of Proverbs is the Lord Himself Who appeared unto Solomon and granted him his desire for wisdom by which to lead His people. According to Solomon's own testimony, he certainly seems to have sought the Lord for words of wisdom by which to lead His people and specifically the proverbs which he penned and which he said were given by one shepherd. Is not this one shepherd Christ?

Ecclesiastes chapter 12 verses 9 thru 12

And moreover, because the preacher was wise, he still taught the people knowledge; yea, he gave good heed, and sought out, and set in order many proverbs.
The preacher sought to find out acceptable words: and that which was written was upright, even words of truth.
The words of the wise are as goads, and as nails fastened by the masters of assemblies, which are given from one shepherd.
And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh.

Off the top of my head, I'm not sure that I can think of a book of the Bible which offers more practical wisdom and advice in regard to what types of women men should both desire and avoid than the book of Proverbs
 
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I would think that the foundation of the book of Proverbs is the Lord Himself Who appeared unto Solomon and granted him his desire for wisdom by which to lead His people. According to Solomon's own testimony, he certainly seems to have sought the Lord for words of wisdom by which to lead His people and specifically the proverbs which he penned and which he said were given by one shepherd. Is not this one shepherd Christ?

Ecclesiastes chapter 12 verses 9 thru 12

And moreover, because the preacher was wise, he still taught the people knowledge; yea, he gave good heed, and sought out, and set in order many proverbs.
The preacher sought to find out acceptable words: and that which was written was upright, even words of truth.
The words of the wise are as goads, and as nails fastened by the masters of assemblies, which are given from one shepherd.
And further, by these, my son, be admonished: of making many books there is no end; and much study is a weariness of the flesh.

Off the top of my head, I'm not sure that I can think of a book of the Bible which offers more practical wisdom and advice in regard to what types of women men should both desire and avoid than the book of Proverbs
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Proverbs is part of the Old Testament law, and the foundation of proverbs is the law of Moses...

Pr 7:2 Keep my commandments, and live; and my law as the apple of thine eye.


Do you claim to be under the book of proverbs as it relates to obedience? Just proverbs or all the law?


Heb 8:6 ¶ But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
 
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Mitspa said:
Proverbs is part of the Old Testament law, and the foundation of proverbs is the law of Moses...

Pr 7:2 Keep my commandments, and live; and my law as the apple of thine eye.


Do you claim to be under the book of proverbs as it relates to obedience? Just proverbs or all the law?


Heb 8:6 ¶ But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
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That very same epistle to the Hebrews exhorts New Testament saints by saying:

Hebrews chapter 12 verses 5 and 6

And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

Where do you think that that exhortation came from? It came from the book of Proverbs chapter 3 verses 11 and 12:

My son, despise not the chastening of the LORD; neither be weary of his correction:
For whom the LORD loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth.

There are other direct quotes from the book of Proverbs which are given as doctrine to New Testament saints as well. One such example would be what we read in Romans chapter 12 verse 20:

Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.

That is a direct quote from Proverbs chapter 25 verses 21 and 22:

If thine enemy be hungry, give him bread to eat; and if he be thirsty, give him water to drink:
For thou shalt heap coals of fire upon his head, and the LORD shall reward thee.

What about the true Proverb that Peter quoted while writing to New Testament saints in II Peter chapter 2 verse 22?

But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

That can be found in Proverbs chapter 26 verse 11.

The book of Proverbs has direct bearing upon the lives of New Testament saints. Don't dismiss it.
 
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purgedconscience said:
That very same epistle to the Hebrews exhorts New Testament saints by saying:

Hebrews chapter 12 verses 5 and 6

And ye have forgotten the exhortation which speaketh unto you as unto children, My son, despise not thou the chastening of the Lord, nor faint when thou art rebuked of him:
For whom the Lord loveth he chasteneth, and scourgeth every son whom he receiveth.

Where do you think that that exhortation came from? It came from the book of Proverbs chapter 3 verses 11 and 12:

My son, despise not the chastening of the LORD; neither be weary of his correction:
For whom the LORD loveth he correcteth; even as a father the son in whom he delighteth.

There are other direct quotes from the book of Proverbs which are given as doctrine to New Testament saints as well. One such example would be what we read in Romans chapter 12 verse 20:

Therefore if thine enemy hunger, feed him; if he thirst, give him drink: for in so doing thou shalt heap coals of fire on his head.

That is a direct quote from Proverbs chapter 25 verses 21 and 22:

If thine enemy be hungry, give him bread to eat; and if he be thirsty, give him water to drink:
For thou shalt heap coals of fire upon his head, and the LORD shall reward thee.

What about the true Proverb that Peter quoted while writing to New Testament saints in II Peter chapter 2 verse 22?

But it is happened unto them according to the true proverb, The dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the sow that was washed to her wallowing in the mire.

That can be found in Proverbs chapter 26 verse 11.

The book of Proverbs has direct bearing upon the lives of New Testament saints. Don't dismiss it.
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I didn't say Proverbs had no bearing or wisdom as it relates to godliness...I said its the law and its foundation is the law of Moses...Just like all the Old testament must been seen through the Work of Christ and His Cross.

You can know every proverb, but without the Holy Spirit you cannot be godly.
 
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Mitspa said:
No one said perfect...and the term was "traditional" in the biblical sense :)
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ok-- I'll apologize (I am Canadian, after all)-- even Christian women are human and aren't going to be as "traditional-ly" perfect (hence hold to be the Proverbs 33 woman, who lights the candle and all the other stuff)-- so I hold steadfast to my first comment-- to not be concerned or "yearn" for a traditional woman-- focus on concerning yourself with finding a good 'broken person' that is the best match for you-- that God has intended for you-- that compliments you in your own broken-ness. Just my opinion (as an opinionated Canadian :D)
 
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Shannon50 said:
ok-- I'll apologize (I am Canadian, after all)-- even Christian women are human and aren't going to be as "traditional-ly" perfect (hence hold to be the Proverbs 33 woman, who lights the candle and all the other stuff)-- so I hold steadfast to my first comment-- to not be concerned or "yearn" for a traditional woman-- focus on concerning yourself with finding a good 'broken person' that is the best match for you-- that God has intended for you-- that compliments you in your own broken-ness. Just my opinion (as an opinionated Canadian :D)
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Sure the Lord always knows whats best...but the issue of guys who admire traditional values, seems to draw some heat and I think its a healthy discussion.... even with Canadians :)
 
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I don't understand anything,
for this topic,
BUT,
all I want to say is :

Come On!
I tell to everyone to stop looking
at the appearance, grow up because
charm is deceptive and beauty disappear...
 
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