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†. John 10:31-36 . . Once more the Jews lifted up stones to stone him. Jesus
replied to them: I displayed to you many fine works from the Father. For
which of those works are you stoning me?
. . .The Jews answered him: We are stoning you, not for a fine work, but for
blasphemy, even because you, although being a man, make yourself a god.
. . . Jesus answered them: Is it not written in your Law "I said: you are
gods”? If he called "gods" those against whom the word of God came, and
yet the Scripture cannot be nullified, do you say to me whom the Father
sanctified and dispatched into the world "You blaspheme" because I said, I
am God's son?
The Scripture to which Christ referred is this one;
†. Ps 85:6 . . I myself have said "You are gods, and all of you are sons of
the Most High."
Actually, it's not a very nice thing to be called a god seeing as how according
to John 17:3 there is only one true god, so that by default all other gods are
false gods because there is no intermediate classification of gods in the Bible
between the true and the false; just as there is no intermediate classification
of executive decisions between the foolish and the wise.
Are "all of you" really sons of the Most High? Only as it relates to the people
of Israel. God is their paterfamilias in that He brought them into existence
by means of a miracle: the child Isaac.
†. 1Sam 29:10 . . David blessed Jehovah before the eyes of all the
congregation and David said "Blessed may you be, O Jehovah the God of
Israel, our Father"
†. Isa 63:16 . . For you are our Father; although Abraham himself may not
have known us and Israel himself may not recognize us, you, O Jehovah, are
our Father.
†. Isa 64:8 . . And now, O Jehovah, you are our Father. We are the clay, and
you are our Potter; and all of us of us are the work of your hand.
"all of us" of course pertains only to Abraham's descendants through Isaac
and Jacob.
I would say that John 10:31-36 is very useful for proving that Christ is really
and truly one of Jacob's biological descendants or otherwise he would have
no right to apply Ps 85:6 to himself like he did.
But of course, if the whole family of Israel are gods, then the whole family of
Israel are idolaters because there is only one true god. So; if Christ isn't the
one true god, then he too is an idolater because he was born a member of
the family of Israel.
†. Heb 7:14 . . For it is quite plain that our Lord has sprung up out of Judah
I've heard that the Watch Tower Society identifies itself as the true people of
Israel. Well; maybe they don't realize it but when the Society did that, they
assumed all of Israel's liabilities; one of which of course is Ps 85:6. In other
words: "you are gods" now applies to the Society; and seeing as how there
is only one true god, then the Society's governing body consists of false
gods; which of course means that every name listed in the Society's
governing body is an idolater.
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†. John 10:31-36 . . Once more the Jews lifted up stones to stone him. Jesus
replied to them: I displayed to you many fine works from the Father. For
which of those works are you stoning me?
. . .The Jews answered him: We are stoning you, not for a fine work, but for
blasphemy, even because you, although being a man, make yourself a god.
. . . Jesus answered them: Is it not written in your Law "I said: you are
gods”? If he called "gods" those against whom the word of God came, and
yet the Scripture cannot be nullified, do you say to me whom the Father
sanctified and dispatched into the world "You blaspheme" because I said, I
am God's son?
The Scripture to which Christ referred is this one;
†. Ps 85:6 . . I myself have said "You are gods, and all of you are sons of
the Most High."
Actually, it's not a very nice thing to be called a god seeing as how according
to John 17:3 there is only one true god, so that by default all other gods are
false gods because there is no intermediate classification of gods in the Bible
between the true and the false; just as there is no intermediate classification
of executive decisions between the foolish and the wise.
Are "all of you" really sons of the Most High? Only as it relates to the people
of Israel. God is their paterfamilias in that He brought them into existence
by means of a miracle: the child Isaac.
†. 1Sam 29:10 . . David blessed Jehovah before the eyes of all the
congregation and David said "Blessed may you be, O Jehovah the God of
Israel, our Father"
†. Isa 63:16 . . For you are our Father; although Abraham himself may not
have known us and Israel himself may not recognize us, you, O Jehovah, are
our Father.
†. Isa 64:8 . . And now, O Jehovah, you are our Father. We are the clay, and
you are our Potter; and all of us of us are the work of your hand.
"all of us" of course pertains only to Abraham's descendants through Isaac
and Jacob.
I would say that John 10:31-36 is very useful for proving that Christ is really
and truly one of Jacob's biological descendants or otherwise he would have
no right to apply Ps 85:6 to himself like he did.
But of course, if the whole family of Israel are gods, then the whole family of
Israel are idolaters because there is only one true god. So; if Christ isn't the
one true god, then he too is an idolater because he was born a member of
the family of Israel.
†. Heb 7:14 . . For it is quite plain that our Lord has sprung up out of Judah
I've heard that the Watch Tower Society identifies itself as the true people of
Israel. Well; maybe they don't realize it but when the Society did that, they
assumed all of Israel's liabilities; one of which of course is Ps 85:6. In other
words: "you are gods" now applies to the Society; and seeing as how there
is only one true god, then the Society's governing body consists of false
gods; which of course means that every name listed in the Society's
governing body is an idolater.
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