Election Week For the Brits!

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MadParrotWoman

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With just 3 days to go before the general election are you any the wiser? Hmmm for sure we are going to have a coalition. But who and with whom? Do we really want clueless Cleggy propping-up Cameron again? I do happen to think the Conservatives will get in but I don't believe they will get an overall majority. I would like to see a Conservative/UKIP partnership, yes they are worlds apart but they would each put the brakes on the more outlandish proposals put forward respectively.

Are you going to vote? Are you interested in your candidate's Christian position? Do you know who you will vote for or are you still undecided? TBH I'm a little bit fed-up with all the false promises (which won't mean a thing anyway if there is a coalition) baby-kissing, attacks/counter-attacks of candidates and smarmy smiles. Bring it on and let's get it all over with.
 
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Friday, I got my ballot for the city government and already filled it out. It was actually an easy vote because I live within such a small community that only one candidate per category and most of them are Christian folks anyhow. All I need to do is drop it by the Post Office.
 
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You know, I'm kinda happy I can't vote here in the UK. That way I have an excuse not to start trying to understand what they all stand for (or claim to stand for anyway) :p
 
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MadParrotWoman said:
With just 3 days to go before the general election are you any the wiser? Hmmm for sure we are going to have a coalition. But who and with whom? Do we really want clueless Cleggy propping-up Cameron again? I do happen to think the Conservatives will get in but I don't believe they will get an overall majority. I would like to see a Conservative/UKIP partnership, yes they are worlds apart but they would each put the brakes on the more outlandish proposals put forward respectively.

Are you going to vote? Are you interested in your candidate's Christian position? Do you know who you will vote for or are you still undecided? TBH I'm a little bit fed-up with all the false promises (which won't mean a thing anyway if there is a coalition) baby-kissing, attacks/counter-attacks of candidates and smarmy smiles. Bring it on and let's get it all over with.
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I am voting UKIP. Although I couldn't care less about immigration.
 
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Just from the outsider's perspective I think David Cameron should be re-elected mostly because of the way he handled that Scotland Referendum. That whole incident tells me a lot about Cameron. It showed he wants to keep Britain together since that was the side he took, but since he let that referendum happen in the first place that also shows me that he will let the people have a say in such matters. Plus looking how he runs stuff, I see a lot of coalition building, and getting different factions to work together. Lol, if by chance you don't elect Cameron, send him over here to mediate between these Dems and GOPers.
 
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Just from the outsider's perspective I think David Cameron should be re-elected mostly because of the way he handled that Scotland Referendum. That whole incident tells me a lot about Cameron. It showed he wants to keep Britain together since that was the side he took, but since he let that referendum happen in the first place that also shows me that he will let the people have a say in such matters. Plus looking how he runs stuff, I see a lot of coalition building, and getting different factions to work together. Lol, if by chance you don't elect Cameron, send him over here to mediate between these Dems and GOPers.
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Thanks for taking an interest.

Sometimes I feel that those who live elsewhere only see how well our government does with foreign policies (as with Margaret Thatcher) and they may be really spot-on on foreign policy-wise but at home deeply unpopular because of the economy or other issues.
 
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Thanks for taking an interest.

Sometimes I feel that those who live elsewhere only see how well our government does with foreign policies (as with Margaret Thatcher) and they may be really spot-on on foreign policy-wise but at home deeply unpopular because of the economy or other issues.
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Well yea, that is pretty much how it's going to be for most people outside any country, since that is what pertains to them the most. Way I understand it is that the British Queen is the one that has the real power in foreign policy since she gets final say in matters of war, peace, and treaty. Way I see it is that since I am the king of America and Elizabeth is queen of Britain, our alliance will stay strong regardless of elections in either country, so long as the people in both our countries are taken care of. Therefore the more important issue for the current time would be hoping Britain stay united and takes care of its people.
 
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GodIsSalvation said:
Well yea, that is pretty much how it's going to be for most people outside any country, since that is what pertains to them the most. Way I understand it is that the British Queen is the one that has the real power in foreign policy since she gets final say in matters of war, peace, and treaty. Way I see it is that since I am the king of America and Elizabeth is queen of Britain, our alliance will stay strong regardless of elections in either country, so long as the people in both our countries are taken care of. Therefore the more important issue for the current time would be hoping Britain stay united and takes care of its people.
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Seriously the Queen has no power whatsoever, she is just a public figure. She doesn't even publicly talk about politics or have allegiance to any political leanings. If people see her attend the state opening parliament - it's simply a tradition and she probably doesn't even agree with "her" government's proposals.
 
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Seriously the Queen has no power whatsoever, she is just a public figure. She doesn't even publicly talk about politics or have allegiance to any political leanings. If people see her state opening parliament - it's simply a tradition and she probably doesn't even agree with "her" government's proposals.
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Lol, I don't think so. I am confident that Elizabeth still retains quite a bit of power and is not merely a figurehead. For example she has the final say on all matters pertaining to war, peace, and treaty. She also has the power to dissolve the Parliament, not only of Britain, but of any of the countries under her crown. She also has power to appoint viceroys to the Commonwealth that act on her behalf. So she actually has quite a lot of power.

I would agree though that she is very lenient, and that she has a tendency to allow her subjects to basically run themselves for the most part.

The reason she doesn't take the side of political parties, is much the same as why I myself am not beholden to the GOP or Dems. It makes no sense for a monarch to be beholden to a political party when you technically own all of them.
 
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Lol, I don't think so. I am confident that Elizabeth still retains quite a bit of power and is not merely a figurehead. For example she has the final say on all matters pertaining to war, peace, and treaty. She also has the power to dissolve the Parliament, not only of Britain, but of any of the countries under her crown. She also has power to appoint viceroys to the Commonwealth that act on her behalf. So she actually has quite a lot of power.

I would agree though that she is very lenient, and that she has a tendency to allow her subjects to basically run themselves for the most part.

The reason she doesn't take the side of political parties, is much the same as why I myself am not beholden to the GOP or Dems. It makes no sense for a monarch to be beholden to a political party when you technically own all of them.
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No she has no power, all the things you mention are simply protocol - tradition. The queen makes no decisions, it's why we have a separate government. If the Queen had power there would be no reason for a government or an election for that matter.
 
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No she has no power, all the things you mention are simply protocol - tradition. The queen makes no decisions, it's why we have a separate government. If the Queen had power there would be no reason for a government or an election for that matter.
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No, not at all. She still has the royal perogative. Just because she has the royal perogative doesn't mean there's no reason for elections. The government and ministers serve to give her counsel. The wise monarch loves counsel. Elections serve to let the people appoint that counsel. Therefore elections are still very important.
 
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they were never voted in, in the first place, lab won first place, tory and lib joined and got into government, so 2 and 3 place took power by joining. strange thing politics.
 
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they were never voted in, in the first place, lab won first place, tory and lib joined and got into government, so 2 and 3 place took power by joining. strange thing politics.
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Are you sure? I'm pretty sure Conservatives got the most seats and joined with LibDems who came 3rd.
 
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I suspect the election will be an election between the haves and the have nots.

I agree about being a bit fed up with it all. I just wish they would simply and plainly set out
where they want to take the country, what their plans are and stop spending most of their
time trying to put the others down.

I shake my head in despair when I see how they behave, these people are suppose to run the country
but often behave like 5 year olds squabbling in the playground.
 
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This Conservative government is utterly evil. I have been on the recieving end a number of times of these so called "reforms". The poor, sick and vunerable are easy targets to tax and remove benefits from. When I was on unemployment benefit I was sanctioned 4 weeks for no real valid reason, that is I had all my benefits stopped, not nice when you have a teenage daughter at school to support. I simply did not fill something in on the online web based Universal Jobmatch which they insisted everyone MUST use. I note that has now been abandoned.

I also had my Tax Credits clawed back 2 years after being awarded them, the whole award of £3000. I was given no reason why and the appeal failed. It is a mystery as the claim covered the time my daughter was in further education, the tax year straddled both years at college, therefore if it was something that I was not entitled to, then the previous year and the following years claims would also be claimed back, but they have not.

My conclusion is that the government are trawling through everyone's claims and awards and finding the slightest loop hole or technicality to claim money back.

I could go on but i have ranted enough, this government, especially Ian Duncan Smith are utterly evil, but then the UK has become a depraved evil society who have abandoned God, so you could argue we reap what we sow and its the government we deserve.
 
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I don't know enough about Parliamentary election procedure to have a whiz bang of an opinion, but I will say that if I lived in the UK, I would go UKIP. They seem to have the best grasp of first principles and a desire to craft policies around those principles in a way that is compatible with the present situation in the UK.

Perhaps those of a more conservative disposition in the UK have a different opinion. If so, I would love to hear it. Not that my opinion counts for anything, hahaha.
 
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Desdichado said:
I don't know enough about Parliamentary election procedure to have a whiz bang of an opinion, but I will say that if I lived in the UK, I would go UKIP. They seem to have the best grasp of first principles and a desire to craft policies around those principles in a way that is compatible with the present situation in the UK.

Perhaps those of a more conservative disposition in the UK have a different opinion. If so, I would love to hear it. Not that my opinion counts for anything, hahaha.
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Your opinion very much does count for something brother. Yes I will be voting UKIP on Thursday, hopefully they will hook-up with one of the bigger parties and kick some butt. well...we can dream lol.
 
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the problem with rule or governing without a conscience , is probably why some fought the monarchy, to put it in the hands of the people of uk. in the first place. however if they are not in touch with all the people, (see agricola post).

even a crook can spend someone elses money. so what value is there being in government, if you dont understand, why the wealth fare state was put there in the first place. the average cost is £40,000 to keep a prisoner in prison. (yearly)
 
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Are you sure? I'm pretty sure Conservatives got the most seats and joined with LibDems who came 3rd.
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either way, the facts ask, why do they need x amount of seats. yet can join force with an other party, to gain power.
so in real terms the vote is a two horse race.(tory v lab) so why vote for an other party. so why is it not one winner, one government.etc
some law has been added etc that they need x amount of seats.
 
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