Catholic Heresy (for the record)

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DesiredHaven

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mattp0625 said:
Friend, I suggest you detach from human entanglements or conflicts when describing a faith. It's not the same thing.

I am not sure what you mean by Mary's resurrection, but that's not RCC doctrine.
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There is no such thing as Mary being assumed into heaven?

No assumption of Mary?

Mary is NOT assumed into heaven?
 
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We should all learn a great deal from this table.
 
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mattp0625

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DesiredHaven said:
There is no such thing as Mary being assumed into heaven?

No assumption of Mary?

Mary is NOT assumed into heaven?
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Mary is in heaven, yes. Resurrection means raised from the dead like Jesus, who then ascended into heaven
 
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DesiredHaven

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Jeff_56 said:
i wouldn't DARE disobey GOD and assume so.
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That was sort of the joke of assumption not being on my end of things, because of what is called "the assumption"

Its just a funny word "assumption" but has a ring of truth depending on which dictionary you are pulling from but anything supposed in scripture (since assume means in truth to suppose as we understand it) was always false there
 
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DesiredHaven

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mattp0625 said:
Mary is in heaven, yes. Resurrection means raised from the dead like Jesus, who then ascended into heaven
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I used the word assumption and you knew what that meant, catholics use that all the time in relation to her
 
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There you go again, proclaiming others salvation. Unbelievable. I realize you think very highly of your opinions (and interpretations) but your playing ball in another game making these claims. Lord have Mercy!
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It is sad that you do not understand what salvation is. Salvation cannot be earned, Nor can it be deserved. It is a gift from God to those who come to Jesus Christ and call on Him to be their Saviour. I have known Roman Catholics who were truly saved by doing so. But sadly most have their eyes on the church or Mary. They are not truly trusting in Jesus Christ.
 
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mattp0625

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For the Protestant, it goes:

Jesus - Apostles --------------------------------------------------------------------Luther's opinions.
 
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mattp0625 said:
and Sola Scriptura

You're married, yes? Was your wedding liturgy issued by Christ or the bible?

Were you married by a pastor or in a church?
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One more time for those with learning difficulties:

Sola Scriptura is in contra-distinction to Papal authority for faith and doctrine.

It's not about Scripture only for salvation.
It's not about interpretation of Scripture.
It's not about the "words of Scripture only."
It's not about the meaning of Scripture.
It's not about doctrines of Scripture.
It's not about if it is in Scripture.
It's not even about what is Biblical.

It's about one thing and one thing only--spiritual authority.

Protestants maintain Only Scripture has spiritual authority for faith and doctrine, not any one on earth.

Now listen up and pay attention.
 
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Well we are lucky, we have the Apostolic Fathers, Ante and post Nicene Fathers of the Church. Jesus didn't come to deliver a book, he came and established his Church. He never once wrote anything down (except a line in the sand).

We don't have to make it up as we go, "fact check" and start a new church every week. Its been laid out already through the Seven Great Ecumenical Councils and the writings of the Church Fathers, which blow protestants minds if they ever suck it up and read them...
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LOL now you've 'come out' and shown your true colours

I studied all that for my higher degree
 
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SAVAS said:
Or just Lord and Savior, like exactly how its stated in Sacred Scripture...
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That would be "Jesus is my Lord and Savior," as distinct from Allah, and which is the same as personal Lord and Savior.
 
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mattp0625 said:
For the Protestant, it goes:

Jesus - Apostles --------------------------------------------------------------------Luther's opinions.
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you wonder why I call you stupid.? This is the stupidest thing you have said yet. Most Christians have never read Luther. They study the Scriptures and discover its truth. Luther was a man of his times. There have been many better Bible teachers than Luther. You Roman Catholics are fixated on Luther. We do not rely on Luther. But you are right that we look to Jesus and the Apostles. They were the ones who had the truth, truth which the early fathers never fully understood, and the Roman Catholic church doesn't understand now..

Luther wasn't the cause of the reformation. He was just most prominent in Roman Catholic eyes.
 
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Elin said:
One more time for those with learning difficulties:

Sola Scriptura is in contra-distinction to Papal authority for faith and doctrine.

It's not about Scripture only for salvation.
It's not about interpretation of Scripture.
It's not about the "words of Scripture only."
It's not about the meaning of Scripture.
It's not about doctrines of Scripture.
It's not about if it is in Scripture.
It's not even about what is Biblical.

It's about one thing and one thing only--spiritual authority.

Protestants maintain Only Scripture has spiritual authority for faith and doctrine, not any one on earth.

Now listen up and pay attention.
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Sorry, Sola Scritptura is, indeed, an interpretation. or, an opinion.

Your claim is that scripture is the only authority for faith and doctrine. Yep

The Book of Mark is doctrine. How do you know Mark wrote it? How do you know the writer was divinely inspired?

Your wedding liturgy contains solemn vows, rituals, and the holy joining of two people before God. The liturgy contains official language contained in a document. Where?

I know you won't answer, but that's OK
 
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