Catholic Heresy (for the record)

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.
Jan 19, 2013
11,909
141
0
Yes. Show me Sola Scriptura in the bible? It's not there!
Please show me the Age of accountability in the bible. Not there!
Friend, how is this using the sole authority ??
The same way "the Trinity" is using the sole authority.

Both previously addressed. . .it's not about phrases, it's about meaning.

Now address the other 20 items on your list and
show that the Scriptures presented are not the Biblical meaning of the phrases.
 
Last edited:
M

mattp0625

Guest
Both previously addressed.

Now address the other 20 items on your list and
show that the Scriptures presented are not the Biblical meaning of the phrases,
as the non-Biblical phrase "the Trinity" does have a Biblical meaning.
Not a problem- none of them are found in scripture. Friend, this is problematic for a scripture "purist"
 
Jan 19, 2013
11,909
141
0
Elin said:
mattp0625 said:
how is this using the sole authority ??
The same way "the Trinity" is using the sole authority.

Both previously addressed. . .it's not about phrases, it's about meaning.

Now address the other 20 items on your list and
show that the Scriptures presented are not the Biblical meaning of the phrases
Not a problem- none of them are found in scripture. Friend, this is problematic for a scripture "purist"
There is nothing "impure" in the Biblical concepts of these phrases.

Now address the Scriptures presented which give the Biblical meaning of these phrases.
 
Last edited:
M

mattp0625

Guest
Ok- age of accountability. Please tell me the age. 13? 21?
next, please cite the chapter and verse containing the words "age of accountability" and the actual age.
Apologies, no one can cite verses that don't exist.
Problematic if your sole authority is scripture. The age, it turns out, is a personal opinion.
 
Jan 19, 2013
11,909
141
0
Ok- age of accountability. Please tell me the age. 13? 21?
next, please cite the chapter and verse containing the words "age of accountability" and the actual age.
Apologies, no one can cite verses that don't exist.
Problematic if your sole authority is scripture. The age, it turns out, is a personal opinion.
That doesn't come from the Bible, it comes from the Catholic Church,
and Protestant Biblicists do not claim that it does or use it Scripturally use it, as well as 8, 21, 22 on your list.

Now address the other 20 items on your list and
show that the Scriptures presented are not the Biblical meaning of the phrases
 
Last edited:
M

mattp0625

Guest
The Catholic Church does not use an age of accountability.
You're making things up now.
 
Jan 19, 2013
11,909
141
0
The Catholic Church does not use an age of accountability.
You're making things up now.
Addressed in the list, at #1. . .pay attention.

"Run around" is the last refuge of inability.

Now address the other 20 items on your list and
show that the Scriptures presented are not the Biblical meaning of the phrases.
 

valiant

Senior Member
Mar 22, 2015
8,025
126
63
Yes. Show me Sola Scriptura in the bible? It's not there!
'Making the WORD OF GOD void through your tradition which you delivered.' (Mark 7.13). Jesus believed the Word of God, and rejected any tradition that did not agree with it.

'From a babe you have known the Scriptures which are able to make you wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus (2 Tim 3.15). What need then of anything else?

All Scripture is inspired of God and is also profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. (2 Tim 3.16). Paul never names any alternative except for his own and Apostolic teaching which was taken from Scripture and was to become Scripture..

The early church recognised this and always appealed to the Scriptures for their authority. That is why new books were only accepted as Scripture if they were apostolic.

To the Torah and to the testimony. If they speak not according to this word there is no light in them (Isaiah 8.2

Even the Jews knew that it was the Scriptures which would make them wise to eternal life (John 5.39).

It is only the Roman Catholics who are blind to the fact.
 
M

mattp0625

Guest
As soon as you address the differences of each opinion of each "pure" Protestant sect: Baptists, anabaptists, Lutheran, United, Presbyterian, Methodists, Adventists, Congregationalists, Pentecostals,... Who am I missing?
 
M

mattp0625

Guest
'Making the WORD OF GOD void through your tradition which you delivered.' (Mark 7.13). Jesus believed the Word of God, and rejected any tradition that did not agree with it.

'From a babe you have known the Scriptures which are able to make you wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus (2 Tim 3.15). What need then of anything else?

All Scripture is inspired of God and is also profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness. (2 Tim 3.16). Paul never names any alternative except for his own and Apostolic teaching which was taken from Scripture and was to become Scripture..

The early church recognised this and always appealed to the Scriptures for their authority. That is why new books were only accepted as Scripture if they were apostolic.

To the Torah and to the testimony. If they speak not according to this word there is no light in them (Isaiah 8.2

Even the Jews knew that it was the Scriptures which would make them wise to eternal life (John 5.39).

It is only the Roman Catholics who are blind to the fact.

How do you know Mark wrote the book of Mark? Please cite the chapter and verse that cites this fact. Thank you
 
Dec 26, 2014
3,757
19
0
That is not what Sola Scriptura means.
it makes totally no difference what sola scriptura means, in view of a rcc or any other unbeliever. it is written in GOD'S WORD that no heretic or unbeliever is able to see heaven nor are they able to grasp the TRUTH at all; until they repent IF GOD grants them mercy.

so the meaning of words, in hebrew, aramaic, greek or english,

EVEN IF AND AS SPOKEN BY YAHSHUA THE MESSIAH,

has no importance to the rcc heretics or any unbeliever. they cannot understand it.(as clearly shown throughout this forum by their countless posts that show no understanding of truth nor of GOD.)
 

valiant

Senior Member
Mar 22, 2015
8,025
126
63
Ok- age of accountability. Please tell me the age. 13? 21?
next, please cite the chapter and verse containing the words "age of accountability" and the actual age.
Apologies, no one can cite verses that don't exist.
Problematic if your sole authority is scripture. The age, it turns out, is a personal opinion.
it is the age when a person becomes morally aware. it differs with each person. however I never use the term myself. I leave God to decide such things. Scripture is written for those who are morally aware. It does not tell us what happens to those who die before they are morally aware. It is a book of salvation not an encyclopedia.
 
Dec 26, 2014
3,757
19
0
i.e. arguing with a heretic is as futile as arguing with a hand puppet of the enemy of CHRIST JESUS.

they can neither see nor hear.
 
M

mattp0625

Guest
it is the age when a person becomes morally aware. it differs with each person. however I never use the term myself. I leave God to decide such things. Scripture is written for those who are morally aware. It does not tell us what happens to those who die before they are morally aware. It is a book of salvation not an encyclopedia.

So, sir, the age is not based on scripture? I thought you adopted Sola Scriptura?
 
Jan 19, 2013
11,909
141
0
Elin said:
There is nothing "impure" in the Biblical concepts of these phrases.

Now address the other 20 items on your list and
show that the Scriptures presented are not the Biblical meaning of the phrases.
As soon as you address the differences of each opinion of each "pure" Protestant sect: Baptists, anabaptists, Lutheran, United, Presbyterian, Methodists, Adventists, Congregationalists, Pentecostals,... Who am I missing?
Straw men and "run around" are the refuges of inability.

Now address the other 20 items on your list and
show that the Scriptures presented are not the Biblical meaning of the phrases.
 

valiant

Senior Member
Mar 22, 2015
8,025
126
63
In addition to being against the rules ofbcivilsed behaviuor, your ad hominem attacks are agains the rules of any forummincluding this, but more importantly against Gods law , too many verses to mention, 2 timothy 2:24 , titus 2:3 phillipiansb2:3 from memory and many others.

You serve nobodies cause but your own. Jesus can call others fool, but you cannot.

As proven on my post about the eucharistic miracles, you do not research anything welll enough to have a view, let alone express it in such forthright manner.


Cool it. Blessed are the meek.
If the Scripture calls you a fool then I must be faithful and let you know you are a fool too
 
M

mattp0625

Guest
"Run around" is the last refuge of inability.

Now address the other 20 items on your list and
show that the Scriptures presented are not the Biblical meaning of the phrases.
No thank you. We established that they do not exist in the bible. Friend, there's nothing left to this argument.
 
Jan 19, 2013
11,909
141
0
No thank you.
We established that they do not exist in the bible. Friend, there's nothing left to this argument.
Their meanings exist in the Bible in the Scriptures I've presented, and you have not shown they do not.

A true student of Scripture is primarily interested in the true meaning of Scripture, not word games.

That's a fail. . .
 

SAVAS

Senior Member
Aug 18, 2013
154
2
16
If I start a church it will be in order for it to be honest with the Scriptures. If that requires a new denomination so be it. But to me denominations mean nothing. What matters is whether men and women truly know Christ as Saviour and love Him as LORD. Their denominational label is irrelevant. Of course I know you Americans take everything to excess. We have few denominations here and they are bound together by inter-denominational fellowships. We are not at loggerheads with each other..

The question is not, are you in the right church? The question is, are you in Christ?
That claim of being in Christ is nothing new with the other 40,000.

There is in fact a Church of Christ which was established, by Christ. The Church who in fact canonized the Bible which you quote from.