Religious Freedom Act
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well, business owners have a right to refuse service to anyone, provided they have a legitimate reason. Just because they may not like homo's or bisexuals is NOT a valid reason, it's purely biased and discriminatory.. jmo
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Anonimous
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If I were subject to this...I would hand each person a thank you card to let them know that all proceeds from their business patronage was going to the America Family Association with a have A Nice Day smiley face.
The mayor in a city an hour south of me in Florida has issued a ban on all travel to the state of Indiana in wakes of this. I've never been out of state so it doesn't concern me in this regard. But I don't think he could do something like that just because there are a lot of people that travel for work. Sure the bill is disagreeable but I don't think you can punish innocent people while trying to protest it.
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Donkeyfish07
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Not everywhere. In lots of states, businesses have the right to refuse service to anyone at anytime and for any reason. They don't even have to give a reason. It doesn't happen often because the whole purpose of business is to make sales, it's a rather bad business strategy to turn customers away. All companies like that have to worry about is that they don't actually say anything thats discriminatory when refusing service. There is even more leeway than that if its a private business (only approved members can shop there).
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Viligant_Warrior
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A lot of people have expressed there thoughts here:
Indiana takes the brunt of criticism for 'Freedom of Religion' law
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Anonimous
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Once upon a time there was another country where travel was restricted without proper identification papers. It was known as nazi Germany...coincidence? Now the US is taking lessons from the losers of that war.
Way I see it this makes good sense. The discrimination argument is invalid for many reasons, but let us just focus on if this is applicable and comparable to other religions.
For instance, it would not be discrimination for a kosher or halal deli/restaurant to refuse to make pork products. Thus it is not discrimination for a Christian business to refuse to make products condoning sexual abuse.
For instance, it would not be discrimination for a kosher or halal deli/restaurant to refuse to make pork products. Thus it is not discrimination for a Christian business to refuse to make products condoning sexual abuse.
Like all the left wing nuts protesting.............you got the Bill wrong............had nothing to do with refusing service to the gay community...........
I only came across it in a news feed. I'm no left wing nut. I'm skeptical of all politicians. Left wing. Right wing. Up wing. Down wing. You name it.
Didn't call you a "left wing nut," was saying that you stated what "all the left wing nuts were saying............."
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Viligant_Warrior
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And Arkansas joins the fray. More religious freedom for liberals to hate.
" ... without a compelling interest ... " is the key phrase. It is the exact same phrase used in the Religious Freedom Restoration Act signed by Bill Clinton in 1993. These shrill whiny liberals that are trying to shout down the basic freedoms of Christians and other religious people are going to be the ones leading the persecution against us in just a few short years.
I can understand a Christian couple not wanting to make a gay wedding cake or pride cookies but to refuse a gay couple a chocolate chip cookie is wrong in my opinion. Aren't Christians called to love??
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krow
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Having a difference of opinion and really believing what the Word of God says about homosexual acts is not discrimination. We live in an age where everyone is sue happy and easily offended. It's sad, that they can't just say okay, have a nice day, and go to another business. Of course gay rights activists like to make parallels between the gay rights movements, and the civil rights movements which is just messed up, so they will come at you that way.
I think this will mostly be used in the event of florists/bakers, etc who don't want to participate in gay weddings.
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Christians are called to love...........in this case (same sex marriage), they are called to "hate the sin" but to love the "sinners." Does not mean they have to "support" the sinning by serving the needs of the "sinners." Think about it.
BTW: Two Governors I would never vote for...........the guy from Indiana, and the guy from Arkansas. Both stated they were "taking a stand" in defense of Religious Freedom, and would not waiver. BOTH, within hours waivered and wilted under pressure from radical socialist liberal attacks.
The real problem with Politicians today is...........they have NO integrity. Zero.
The real problem with Politicians today is...........they have NO integrity. Zero.
The Constitution guarantees my freedom to practice religion.
That includes the freedom to practice my religious beliefs which require that I not be involved with those whose behavior is forbidden by my religious beliefs.
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DesiredHaven
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My husband was watching the news and I caught the part of it where a christian operated pizzeria in Indiana is being descended upon (via phonecalls and internet) by those who lust upon their own sex and want to marry each other.
You know, by these organized online groups that do these campaigns against people simply because you dont agree with them.
Did anyone watch the story on Fox news this evening?
Given they were a small family pizzeria, its highly unlikely they will ever be called upon to serve pizza at any same sex weddings in the future (because seriously, who has pizza at their wedding?) But anyway, a reporter asked about their beliefs and they freely put them out there, that they dont agree with such choices (even as their faith did not permit them to). But Elin put that whole thing out in the last post perfectly though.
From what I gathered from it was that they would even be willing to serve same sex couples (being equally sinners like everyone) who might enter into their small restaurant, so I didnt understand them as stating they would even refuse them service (there). HOWEVER, I believe it was the daughter who had added that they would never be a partaker in doing service (which is pizza) at a wedding (where there was an enjoining the same sex) and because their faith just doesnt agree with what they agree with in that.
And people have their own limits according to what their concience allows in these type of situations and I respect that.
Did anyone see that?
You know, by these organized online groups that do these campaigns against people simply because you dont agree with them.
Did anyone watch the story on Fox news this evening?
Given they were a small family pizzeria, its highly unlikely they will ever be called upon to serve pizza at any same sex weddings in the future (because seriously, who has pizza at their wedding?) But anyway, a reporter asked about their beliefs and they freely put them out there, that they dont agree with such choices (even as their faith did not permit them to). But Elin put that whole thing out in the last post perfectly though.
From what I gathered from it was that they would even be willing to serve same sex couples (being equally sinners like everyone) who might enter into their small restaurant, so I didnt understand them as stating they would even refuse them service (there). HOWEVER, I believe it was the daughter who had added that they would never be a partaker in doing service (which is pizza) at a wedding (where there was an enjoining the same sex) and because their faith just doesnt agree with what they agree with in that.
And people have their own limits according to what their concience allows in these type of situations and I respect that.
Did anyone see that?