OUR HEAVENLY MANSIONS
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This is nothing that you need to take my word on or not, it is so trivial. Whether you believe it or not, is irrelevant to ones walk, or their Salvation, if you believe it fine, if you don't that is fine too. i am not trying to convince you that it is True, i only answered you when you asked where it came from. its a gnat, nothing, unimportant, believe it or not believe it, does not matter.
If you want the Truth, it was very unconvient for me, i would have just been happy if you did not ask where it came from, but i did not fail to tell you the Truth, despite how it make me look crazy. Do you know how people in this generation looks at those who claim to hear from God? They are mocked, made fun of, put down, belittled, falsely accused, and many other things But i did not fail to tell you the Truth even though by doing so, made me look stupid and crazy in the eyes of this generation, how convenient for me.
Your asking questions that you will not believe. But it sufficeth to say, you will not be lonely at all. i find it extremely difficult to describe what Heaven is like, using things of the Earth as examples. Lets see let me think for a minute. i am going to make an attempt at it, its probably going to be bad , but here goes.
Your an ant in a yard, and you whole family in right there in that yard, all your ant relative, your ant neighbors, your whole world is that ant hill in that yard, The farthest you can possibly see from your world is the end of the yard on all four sides. Now God speaks to one of the ants, and tells him many things, some great, some trivial things. He tell the ant, that one day each one of the ants will have their own HUGE HOUSE to do with as they see fit. And one of the ants, having a finite mind, that is to say, can only see what is in his world and to the end of the yard, can't grasp having a HUGE HOUSE (that the GIANTS live in) all to themselves. That one says, i don't even want that HOUSE all by myself, how lonely would that be, and that he does not want a HOUSE all to His own. STOP, that is not working either. Let me try this way.
Now there is a microscopic parasite that lives on the back of an ant, it has its own house, its own living space on the back of that ant. Now the ant has its own house within the Ant Hill, there are many houses in the ant hill, and that ant has his own house within the ant hill. Now the human has his own House, and there are many houses in the world, but that human has his own house. Now a child of God has his own planet, and there are many planets in the universe. The next planet over is your neighbor. One ant hill world can be 20 feet from the next ant hill world. One Residential House can be 20 yards away from another residential House. One Residential planet can be 20 light years away from another Residential planet. Your not alone, it is merely your place of residence. But if you don't want one you don't have to have one. Sorry can't explain it any better, and i am now feeling convicted about spending so much time on a trivial unimportant issue, compared to Salvation issues, that i am ready to move on, but if you want to farther discuss it, email me, and i will see what i can do.
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If you want the Truth, it was very unconvient for me, i would have just been happy if you did not ask where it came from, but i did not fail to tell you the Truth, despite how it make me look crazy. Do you know how people in this generation looks at those who claim to hear from God? They are mocked, made fun of, put down, belittled, falsely accused, and many other things But i did not fail to tell you the Truth even though by doing so, made me look stupid and crazy in the eyes of this generation, how convenient for me.
Your asking questions that you will not believe. But it sufficeth to say, you will not be lonely at all. i find it extremely difficult to describe what Heaven is like, using things of the Earth as examples. Lets see let me think for a minute. i am going to make an attempt at it, its probably going to be bad , but here goes.
Your an ant in a yard, and you whole family in right there in that yard, all your ant relative, your ant neighbors, your whole world is that ant hill in that yard, The farthest you can possibly see from your world is the end of the yard on all four sides. Now God speaks to one of the ants, and tells him many things, some great, some trivial things. He tell the ant, that one day each one of the ants will have their own HUGE HOUSE to do with as they see fit. And one of the ants, having a finite mind, that is to say, can only see what is in his world and to the end of the yard, can't grasp having a HUGE HOUSE (that the GIANTS live in) all to themselves. That one says, i don't even want that HOUSE all by myself, how lonely would that be, and that he does not want a HOUSE all to His own. STOP, that is not working either. Let me try this way.
Now there is a microscopic parasite that lives on the back of an ant, it has its own house, its own living space on the back of that ant. Now the ant has its own house within the Ant Hill, there are many houses in the ant hill, and that ant has his own house within the ant hill. Now the human has his own House, and there are many houses in the world, but that human has his own house. Now a child of God has his own planet, and there are many planets in the universe. The next planet over is your neighbor. One ant hill world can be 20 feet from the next ant hill world. One Residential House can be 20 yards away from another residential House. One Residential planet can be 20 light years away from another Residential planet. Your not alone, it is merely your place of residence. But if you don't want one you don't have to have one. Sorry can't explain it any better, and i am now feeling convicted about spending so much time on a trivial unimportant issue, compared to Salvation issues, that i am ready to move on, but if you want to farther discuss it, email me, and i will see what i can do.
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The heavens and the earth which now are will flee from the face of God and there will be no more place found for them.........Mormonism teaches that man will become a God, call forth his favorite wife from the grave and get there own planet to populate like Adam and EVE here on earth....Are you a MORMON?
K
There has been interviews done by former Mormons, and they said that their book and their churches do not tell them the whole truth tell they move up in rank. They have a level system in which they achieve within the church, and many have left because they reached high enough that they were told that they get their own planet and become god's themselves over these planets.
K
I have seen multiple interviews done by ex-Mormons and they say once you reach a certain level within the church, the church gives more insight into their rankings. And one of which says that they are given a planet of their own, and become a god of that planet. That was one of many reasons they left the church, as well as they teach one has to earn salvation and everybody goes to heaven just at different levels. Last time I checked the bible says there will be no pain, torture, or sadness in heaven, can not happen if people are being burned and tormented in the lake of fire.
D
Does not "death" and hades give up the dead in them first?
Does not death and hades get cast into the lake of fire (which is called the "second death")?
It shows the devil that deceived them is shown in
Rev 20:10
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are,
and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Rev 20:14 follows after
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
But that was just after the dead were delivered up out of them (death and hades) first
Which is followed by
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
The wages of sin is death but this is speaking of whoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire correct?
They were shown as already in death (as death and hades gets cast into what is called the second death) which is the Lake of fire, but they who were in them were delivered up out of the other (and if not found in the book of life) they also get cast into the Lake of fire (second death) correct?
Because here in
Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
But that is also followed up with this verse
Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
Does not death and hades get cast into the lake of fire (which is called the "second death")?
It shows the devil that deceived them is shown in
Rev 20:10
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are,
and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever.
Rev 20:14 follows after
And death and hell were cast into the lake of fire. This is the second death.
But that was just after the dead were delivered up out of them (death and hades) first
Which is followed by
Rev 20:15 And whosoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire.
The wages of sin is death but this is speaking of whoever was not found written in the book of life was cast into the lake of fire correct?
They were shown as already in death (as death and hades gets cast into what is called the second death) which is the Lake of fire, but they who were in them were delivered up out of the other (and if not found in the book of life) they also get cast into the Lake of fire (second death) correct?
Because here in
Rev 21:4 And God shall wipe away all tears from their eyes; and there shall be no more death, neither sorrow, nor crying, neither shall there be any more pain: for the former things are passed away.
But that is also followed up with this verse
Rev 21:8 But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and murderers, and whoremongers, and sorcerers, and idolaters, and all liars, shall have their part in the lake which burneth with fire and brimstone: which is the second death.
K
The death they were in previously was referring to their physical death, on how they died in the flesh in unbelief or disobedience.
The second death is spiritual death in the lake of fire, as some will be burnt up immediately and others who were so evil an vile will burn longer. As satan, man of sin, and false prophet will burn for eternity for being the ring leaders of the evil trinity that deceives the whole world. God is a just God, and is not going to submit all unbelievers and disobedient people with the same punishment of burning forever in the lake of fire. Luke 12 is a good example that shows this....
D
Death had already passed on all men, were all men spiritually dead already? And needing life through Christ?
The parable of a place of torment is untrue also? Theres no such place?
But wouldnt that be like taking away from the prophecy of that book to say unbelievers dont have their part in the Lake of fire?
The parable of a place of torment is untrue also? Theres no such place?
But wouldnt that be like taking away from the prophecy of that book to say unbelievers dont have their part in the Lake of fire?
R
Mormons is actually a misspelled word. Someone with fat fingers was typing it and they accidentally added the extra M in.
The real word is Morons.
I'm only joking. Each to their own. But it is an odd religion. No where in the bible does it say anything about getting your own planet so why do they believe this???????
By the way, your place in Heaven will be better than you can even conceive.
The real word is Morons.
I'm only joking. Each to their own. But it is an odd religion. No where in the bible does it say anything about getting your own planet so why do they believe this???????
By the way, your place in Heaven will be better than you can even conceive.
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K
I never said that unbelievers do not end up in the lake of fire, as what I said is that all unbelievers and the disobedient will have their place in the lake of fire. The false teaching comes in that says a person can be forgiven after they have already died in unbelief or disobedience when in the flesh. The Catholics have a false prayer for the dead, but the bible nowhere says after death forgiveness and salvation can still be given to those who died in unbelief or disobedience.
The Lord even gives a parable that says you must believe and be obedient while in the flesh, and if you die in that state or He comes back at the seconding coming and finds some being disobedient they will be appointed a place in the lake of fire. The other false teaching is that all will burn for an eternity in the lake of fire, as Jesus in Luke 12 clearly states there will be different punishments.
Mormons is actually a misspelled word. Someone with fat fingers was typing it and they accidentally added the extra M in.
The real word is Morons.
I'm only joking. Each to their own. But it is an odd religion. No where in the bible does it say anything about getting your own planet so why do they believe this???????
By the way, your place in Heaven will be better than you can even conceive.
The real word is Morons.
I'm only joking. Each to their own. But it is an odd religion. No where in the bible does it say anything about getting your own planet so why do they believe this???????
By the way, your place in Heaven will be better than you can even conceive.
Yes the bible nowhere says we get our own planet, and I don't know where Dave got this from. I know he said that God revealed that to him, but we must be careful because not all spirits that speak to men is from God. We must test them by His word, and by asking them if they profess Jesus as the Son of God.
If they do not profess Jesus, and what they say does not align with His word then the spirit is not from God.
I brought up the Mormonism because I seen multiple testimonies from ex members of their church who said they left.
The reasons they gave for leaving was because as they worked their way up the rankings within the church, they were taught more things that are not in their book or the bible. One of those things that many of them stated was that they were told they can become a god themselves and given a planet to oversee.