OUR HEAVENLY MANSIONS

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JesusistheChrist

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If you do not believe in a bodily resurrection I do apologize. Please explain the purpose of the resurrection at Christ's return, if their are souls already in heaven. What is the need for a resurrection?
Simply put, man is a triune being comprised of spirit, soul and body. Upon death for a Christian, the body returns to the ground (unless somebody's cremated or something) and the spirit and soul go to be with the Lord. At Christ's return, the spirit and soul are given a glorified body to live in here on earth. I could give corresponding scriptures, but I won't at this point in time.

What's your scenario and why do you sometimes speak of three resurrections? What are the three and the timings of each?
 
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DesiredHaven

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Perhaps that is something YOU should look into.
That would be called creating a strawman when that happens isnt it?

Not up on my debate speak, so I would have to check myself there.
 
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JesusistheChrist

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Perhaps that is something YOU should look into.
Why should I look into it? If people like you lack reading comprehension skills or are just so hell bent on arguing that you'll argue against things which weren't even said, then that's your problem and not mine.
 
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DesiredHaven

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Heres a song called mansion in the sky for you guys

[video=youtube;ZUwo22QtuE8]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZUwo22QtuE8[/video]

They too are really excited for the same.
 
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popeye

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That would be called creating a strawman when that happens isnt it?

Not up on my debate speak, so I would have to check myself there.
Woah,nicely done

Now,with your permission I am cosidering this as a siggy line
 

DiscipleDave

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whatever those eternal homes will be like -- i just want to take the opportunity here to say that you are all invited over to mine, for a party in Christ's honor - to celebrate together in all He did for us through our interactions here.

seriously :)
am really looking forward to it. and it will be 'come as you are' - robed in light, tee-hee!
needn't worry about bringing food or anything either!!
This is not far from the Truth. After the Saints go out into the universe, each having their own planet to design and form as they see fit, will every Sabbath Day come to Earth, where the New City will be forever and ever. and we will have a feast like you have never seen before. Saints coming with NEW exotic foods that you have never tried before. Food that they have found out in the universe, or food they have created on their own. And it will be a feast like no other. Every Saint bringing enough food for thousands. There will be singing, games, cooking, playing, and colors that no human has ever seen before, so overwhelming, and OH don't let me forget about the aroma's, and the mouth watering smells of the food being cooked. And everyone is smiling and laughing, nobody in pain, or in sickness, Just everyone HAPPY. And my neighbor in the galaxy next to mine, brought her creation of a plant that uproots itself and moves close to other plants then mimics the plant it moved next to, i told her to keep it away from the flower fields or you will never find it again, we laughed about that for a minute.
Oh, i can't wait, i am so ready to depart from this flesh. From this life. Come Lord Jesus, come.

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DesiredHaven

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Our own planets too?

This could be interesting...



Do we get our own monsters?

Which scriptures speak of us getting our own planets?
 

DiscipleDave

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Our own planets too?

This could be interesting...



Do we get our own monsters?

Which scriptures speak of us getting our own planets?
God informed me, that after the 1,000 year reign on Earth that each Saint would have their own planet to call home, to design it and form it however that Saint saw fit, it would be their home. We come back to the New City Jerusalem every Sabbath, to celebrate the Feast Day. After the time of the humans is up, the Saints explore all that Jesus has created in the Universe, He made the universe for us. What? Do you think the Kingdom of Heaven is worshiping at the feet of Jesus for all eternity, for ever and ever and ever? Or that a hundreds of thousand of Saints stand around the Throne of God just waiting for something to do? It's not like that at all.

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DiscipleDave

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Our own planets too?

This could be interesting...



Do we get our own monsters?

Which scriptures speak of us getting our own planets?
If you are in Heaven, and you desire a monster, are you suggesting God would not give to you what you desire.
In Heaven, Anything you want to have, you can have, There is only one thing in Heaven that you can't have, and that is a seat on the Throne of God, that belongs to the Father, to Jesus, and the Holy Spirit of God.
Truly if humans would know what the Kingdom of Heaven was really like, they would lock themselves in a safe, and never do anything that might remotely jeopardize their chances of going there. Those who Truly knew what Heaven was like, would become like a nun or like a monk, dedicating their lives to serving the Lord Jesus Christ.
The Kingdom of Heaven is looking for ONLY those souls that LOVE ONE ANOTHER, it is not looking for those who love self, selfish. All sin is selfishness.

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DesiredHaven

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Gotcha, this is some special revelation from God to you, nothing we can verify for ourselves just something we should take your word on?
 

DiscipleDave

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Gotcha, this is some special revelation from God to you, nothing we can verify for ourselves just something we should take your word on?
Did i say it was my word, or did i plainly say it is from God? Are you one of those people who believe that God does not speak to people in these last days, even though it is written God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow? Is it not written that in the last days Gods Spirit will be poured out upon the sons and daughters and they shall prophesy. What then if they do prophesy about what is to come, they are not to be believed because it is a NEW revelation? Tell me, what purpose would there be for God to pour out His Spirit on sons and daughters to prophesy, if what they prophesy is ALREADY known? The reason God does this in the last Days, is to reveal what is to come which does not contradict ANY Scriptures.
But it is not my place to convince you that what i am saying is the Truth, it is only my place to inform you of the Truth, what you do with it is up to you. Oh, by the way, that is what God told me as well, that it is not my place to convince anyone, only to present it.

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DesiredHaven

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Did i say it was my word, or did i plainly say it is from God? Are you one of those people who believe that God does not speak to people in these last days, even though it is written God is the same yesterday, today, and tomorrow? Is it not written that in the last days Gods Spirit will be poured out upon the sons and daughters and they shall prophesy. What then if they do prophesy about what is to come, they are not to be believed because it is a NEW revelation? Tell me, what purpose would there be for God to pour out His Spirit on sons and daughters to prophesy, if what they prophesy is ALREADY known? The reason God does this in the last Days, is to reveal what is to come which does not contradict ANY Scriptures.
But it is not my place to convince you that what i am saying is the Truth, it is only my place to inform you of the Truth, what you do with it is up to you. Oh, by the way, that is what God told me as well, that it is not my place to convince anyone, only to present it.

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I said Gotcha, this is some special revelation from God to you,
 

DiscipleDave

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Gotcha, this is some special revelation from God to you, nothing we can verify for ourselves just something we should take your word on?
Do you know the Biblical way to tell a false prophet according to Scriptures?
1) if what they say does not come to pass
2) if what they say is contrary to sound doctrine.

Also Scriptures plainly teach in Jeremiah, ANYONE who claims to say this is from God and it is NOT from God, shall die, and not only that wicked person shall die, but that persons family as well shall die. Let This Word be True and stand for all time. Anyone who says something is from God and it is not from God, should die a most horrible painful death, slow and long, then after death, live in HELL for all eternity, let this so happen to anyone who claims they hear from God and it is not God.

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kennethcadwell

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God informed me, that after the 1,000 year reign on Earth that each Saint would have their own planet to call home, to design it and form it however that Saint saw fit, it would be their home. We come back to the New City Jerusalem every Sabbath, to celebrate the Feast Day. After the time of the humans is up, the Saints explore all that Jesus has created in the Universe, He made the universe for us. What? Do you think the Kingdom of Heaven is worshiping at the feet of Jesus for all eternity, for ever and ever and ever? Or that a hundreds of thousand of Saints stand around the Throne of God just waiting for something to do? It's not like that at all.

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We each get our own planet ????
You are teaching some Mormonism stuff here which does not align with the bible, as the bible clearly says we are placed back on earth with a new Jerusalem and an new heaven that will be on earth. Nowhere in the bible does it say we get our own planets....
 

DiscipleDave

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I said Gotcha, this is some special revelation from God to you,
i was not responding to this statement, but the latter part of your statement.

Gotcha, this is some special revelation from God to you, nothing we can verify for ourselves just something we should take your word on?
It's not my word, if i say it is from God.

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[video=youtube_share;zjrOn8EjuwU]http://youtu.be/zjrOn8EjuwU[/video]
 
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DesiredHaven

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Do you know the Biblical way to tell a false prophet according to Scriptures?
1) if what they say does not come to pass
2) if what they say is contrary to sound doctrine.

Also Scriptures plainly teach in Jeremiah, ANYONE who claims to say this is from God and it is NOT from God, shall die, and not only that wicked person shall die, but that persons family as well shall die. Let This Word be True and stand for all time. Anyone who says something is from God and it is not from God, should die a most horrible painful death, slow and long, then after death, live in HELL for all eternity, let this so happen to anyone who claims they hear from God and it is not God.

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Yeah I see false prophets

Jerm 2:1 Hananiah the son of Azur the prophet, which was of Gibeon, spake unto me in the house of the LORD, in the presence of the priests and of all the people, saying, ***Thus speaketh the LORD of hosts***,the God of Israel, ***saying*** I have broken the yoke of the king of Babylon. Within two full years will I bring again into this place all the vessels of the LORD'S house, that Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon took away from this place, and carried them to Babylon etc

Jerm 28:6 the prophet Jeremiah said, ***Amen*** the LORD **do so***: the LORD perform ***THY WORDS*** which **THOU** hast prophesied, to bring again the vessels of the LORD'S house, and all that is carried away captive, from Babylon into this place.***Nevertheless*** hear thou now this word that I speak in thine ears, and in the ears of all the people; The prophets that have been BEFORE ME and BEFORE THEE of old prophesied both **against** many countries, and against great kingdoms, of war, and of evil, and of pestilence.

Jerm 28:10
Then Hananiah the prophet took the yoke from off the prophet Jeremiah's neck, and brake it. And Hananiah spake in the presence of all the people, saying, ***Thus saith the LORD*** Even so will I break the yoke of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon from the neck of all nations within the space of two full years. And the prophet Jeremiah went his way.

Jerm 28:15
Then said the prophet Jeremiah unto Hananiah the prophet, Hear now, Hananiah; The LORD hath not sent thee; but thou makest this people to trust in a lie.


Jerm 28:16 Therefore thus saith the LORD;
Behold, I will cast thee from off the face of the earth: this year thou shalt die, because thou hast **taught rebellion** against the LORD.

Jerm 14:14 Then the LORD said unto me,
The prophets **prophesy lies** in my name: I sent them not, neither have I commanded them, neither spake unto them: they prophesy unto you a false vision and **divination**, and a thing of nought, and the deceit of their heart.


Ezek 13:7 Have ye not seen a vain vision, and have ye not spoken a **lying divination**, whereas ye say, **The
LORD saith it**; albeit I have not spoken?


If you say the Lord says we get a planet what should I do trust in you?

Seriously
 
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DesiredHaven

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i was not responding to this statement, but the latter part of your statement.



It's not my word, if i say it is from God.

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Well yeah, should I take your word on it that it was from God to you that we get a planet

I cant find out whether its true through scripture so I can only take your word on it because I cant prove it from there, but only after death?

Thats sort of convenient for you.

I dont even want a planet, how lonely to have a planet, what do I want with a world of my own?

Thats not at all desirable
 

DiscipleDave

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DiscipleDave said :
God informed me, that after the 1,000 year reign on Earth that each Saint would have their own planet to call home, to design it and form it however that Saint saw fit, it would be their home. We come back to the New City Jerusalem every Sabbath, to celebrate the Feast Day. After the time of the humans is up, the Saints explore all that Jesus has created in the Universe, He made the universe for us. What? Do you think the Kingdom of Heaven is worshiping at the feet of Jesus for all eternity, for ever and ever and ever? Or that a hundreds of thousand of Saints stand around the Throne of God just waiting for something to do? It's not like that at all.
We each get our own planet ????
You are teaching some Mormonism stuff here which does not align with the bible,
Mormons as far as i know do not teach that, and i have read the Book of Mormon, and no where in there does it say that either. As to your statement that it does not line up with the Bible, it is your opinion that it does not line up with the Bible, if you say it does not line up with the Bible, then show me what verse contradicts what i have said.

as the bible clearly says we are placed back on earth with a new Jerusalem and an new heaven that will be on earth. Nowhere in the bible does it say we get our own planets....
Have i said we do not live in the New City Jerusalem? Have i said that Heaven will not be on Earth? Scriptures are clear about the New City Jerusalem, that it will come to Earth and remain there. The Earth will become like a Garden of Eden for the New City Jerusalem, the Saints will live in the New city Jerusalem for a thousand years reigning with Jesus Christ over the 144,000 humans that make it through the Tribulation period. After the thousand years satan is released and there is one final battle for the New City, Good verses evil battle. satan loses and him and his followers are all cast into Hell at that time. This is what Scriptures does reveal and it is all True. Scriptures says nothing about event that take place after the said mentioned events above. What? Do you think God created the universe and all that is in it, so we Saints can say "Stars look pretty tonight" God made the universe for us, it is ours to explore, live in, shape, mold, form, or whatever else we desire to do with it. Jesus gives it to us. i KNOW each Saint gets their own planet because that is what He told me. You are correct in saying that Nowhere in the Bible does it say we get our own planets.... And it is also True, that nowhere in the Bible does it say we don't. Tell me, Do you think God creates something that has no purpose? He created the billions of galaxies out there, and Billions more that we can't even see, so that humans can say "OOOOHHH look at the stars" And the ones we can't see, why did God create those, when we can't even see them? He told me why. Because the Universe is OURS, we are the offspring of God, we are children of the living God, and the Universe is ours. Do you think Heaven is as small as the confines of the Earth? Do you think Heaven is as small as a single Galaxy called the MILKY WAY? You are thinking microscopic tiny if that is what you think. Heaven is all of the Universe, not only what we can see from Earth, but ALL of the Universe is ours, and was created for the Saints of Jesus Christ. What i teach is not contrary to any Scriptures, and what i teach is from God, and therefore is the Truth. If you can't believe this simple Truth that each Saint gets their own planet to design and form as they see fit, after all the events Scriptures says will take place on Earth, then you will most assuredly not believe other Truths that He has told me, making the "your own planet" Truth compared to a gnat against a camel with some of the other stuff He told me.
God created the Universe for us. Why is it so hard for people to believe that God would give each Saint a planet?
How can i describe Heaven to people who can't see past the single grain of sand on a planet made entirely of sand. What makes the Earth Special though, is that the Throne of God will be here on Earth for the entire Universe to come and worship and celebrate the Feast Days, and Sabbaths.

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