Streams of Consciousness & Thoughts~~~

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LACROSSE.
( even though I only played it like once, an I almost got murdered) mwahaha.
 
kenthomas27 said:
I'm watching a program (again) about the American Civil war tonight. As a southerner, maybe as an easterner, I've grown up immersed in its history and I've never lost interest. I live near several battlefields and have visited many more - really more interested in the western theater than Lee's war in the east. Shiloh, Chickamauga, Lookout Mt., Nashville, and the trek to Atlanta - Resaca and the others, especially Kennesaw Mountain.

But all this left me wondering. How do folks in the west feel about the war? Does it have much of an impact or is there much interest in it at all? Even the folks from Texas who were part of the American Confederacy - has the war had much impact on you or is your interest in the war been something you've always had? How about Gypsy in Oregon or Catherder in California - does the war hold any wonderment for you?

I'm not sure it actually would touch people in the way it might a southerner. i have found artifact plenty of times - once a whole cannonball and several mini balls, even a union button once. There was still a stone fence built as part of a picket line near a neighborhood I lived in once when little.

To me, there's still a shadow of sorts that haunts this land. There's so many patches that are hallowed ground. There's still a kind of hushed dread in the thousand or so museums littering the south. Even the not so used rail lines form vanishing points that seem to moan still; a lonely look to a highway with historic markers around every bend. It seems every small town has black steel fenced in CSA tombstones on their boneyards with chiseled lettering shallow'd by a century and a half of rain.

Does it play a role in other's lives?
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Reading this brought a couple of tears to my eyes, so I guess you could say the answer is yes. I'm not going to say anything about the war and what made it happen, but the memory of it is still present...I guess it is a southern thing. Sometimes it feels like the moaning will be a part of us forever...
 
It's weird to me how individuals will come here and attempt to dominate one specific thread but post in no other threads. It's kind of difficult to pay attention to someone's opinion when they don't make an effort to actually be part of the community.
 
ChandlerFan said:
It's weird to me how individuals will come here and attempt to dominate one specific thread but post in no other threads. It's kind of difficult to pay attention to someone's opinion when they don't make an effort to actually be part of the community.
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If some come to the dance only for the punch n cookies, that just means more room on the dance floor for us. :P

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By the way, lil_christian, a couple of caveats about that video:

First there are programs that, once you get used to them, are easier to use for this. I use Reaper, which has auto-crossfade when you merge two audio tracks. Also you can use the scroll wheel to zoom in and out. But Reaper is much more complex and much less free than Audacity, and there's no way you'll need that much power unless you become a hard-core music nerd. Also the learning curve on Reaper is... quite steep.

Second, please excuse my voice. I ate a large quantity of cheese ball and I'm mildly allergic to dairy - which was a bit stupid, because I knew what I was getting into when I ate it. BUT IT WAS GOOD! I'd eat it again if I could.

Now, about that accent: That is my taking-it-easy accent. I have others. When I'm in a hurry I have no accent at all and speak very rapidly. When I'm really ticked off about something I develop a clipped british accent for some reason. When I'm joking about something I seem to have an almost irish accent. I have no idea why. But yeah, when I'm relaxing I sometimes have a southern accent.
 
kenthomas27 said:
I'm watching a program (again) about the American Civil war tonight. As a southerner, maybe as an easterner, I've grown up immersed in its history and I've never lost interest. I live near several battlefields and have visited many more - really more interested in the western theater than Lee's war in the east. Shiloh, Chickamauga, Lookout Mt., Nashville, and the trek to Atlanta - Resaca and the others, especially Kennesaw Mountain.

But all this left me wondering. How do folks in the west feel about the war? Does it have much of an impact or is there much interest in it at all? Even the folks from Texas who were part of the American Confederacy - has the war had much impact on you or is your interest in the war been something you've always had? How about Gypsy in Oregon or Catherder in California - does the war hold any wonderment for you?

I'm not sure it actually would touch people in the way it might a southerner. i have found artifact plenty of times - once a whole cannonball and several mini balls, even a union button once. There was still a stone fence built as part of a picket line near a neighborhood I lived in once when little.

To me, there's still a shadow of sorts that haunts this land. There's so many patches that are hallowed ground. There's still a kind of hushed dread in the thousand or so museums littering the south. Even the not so used rail lines form vanishing points that seem to moan still; a lonely look to a highway with historic markers around every bend. It seems every small town has black steel fenced in CSA tombstones on their boneyards with chiseled lettering shallow'd by a century and a half of rain.

Does it play a role in other's lives?
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I know I'm not so far north and/or west as the folks you mentioned, but northwest enough that I don't live in an area with any Civil War history attached to it. My mom and her family grew up in Oklahoma, and I have a lot of ancestors from the South. I grew up at least hearing about that era a lot, and I've always been interested in it.

I don't think it ever could hold the same meaning for me as it does for you or others who are literally surrounded by memorials and battle sites and museums and just the Southern life in general. But for me, there's definitely a fascination with it all, a certain sentimental feeling about it. There's a tragic romance about it, for me. I'm sure a part of that is due to having watched/read Gone With the Wind (though reading it is such an entirely different experience than watching the film- the film is good, but the book is excellent and far more detailed about the war itself rather than Scarlett's screwed up love life). Another good book is The Widow of the South (which reminds me I should read that again). Anyway, my point is, my view of the Civil War is probably skewed, and I admit I don't know a whole lot about it, but it's definitely interesting and important to me.

When I was 17, I went on vacation with my mom, aunt, and grandma- we drove from here to Georgia and South Carolina and visited some of the old plantations and cemeteries and Fort Sumter and...I dunno, a heck of a lot of places connected to that time period and the war. It was a really amazing opportunity, I recognized that even as a teenager, and I'd love to go back and have more time to just see everything. To me, everything east and south of Kansas is like a fairy tale world...the land itself, the veil of green on everything, the history, the homes...I'm in love with it. There's just something awe-inspiring about standing in a place where men fought and died for what they believed in, something tragic about seeing slave cabins all lined up out of sight of the mansion on a plantation, something mystical about being surrounded by giant oaks and magnolias draped with Spanish moss and imagining a farewell scene between a soldier and a Southern belle in her hoopskirts (that might be Gone With the Wind getting to me again...).

Um...so...short answer: Yes, it holds meaning to some people over this way.
 
A little hilarious work drama this morning:

First of all, I don't work at the main office so when anything goes down, I'm usually hearing it through the grapevine from my dad who talks to people there regularly, but when it happens on e-mail I get to witness it firsthand you could say.

Apparently one of managers for one of the companies we work with was supposed to have the day off today, but he is at work due to some issues with one of the software programs they use regularly. He sent an all-caps e-mail complete with exclamation points and a couple of four-letter words just to the IT guy and to one of the other company managers, and the IT guy then replied to him with a calm reply, but copied "Staff" (aka dozens of people, some from other related companies who use the same office, and me as well) into his reply apparently so we could all see his crazy e-mail for ourselves. And now they've gone back and forth a few times just since I started typing this post.

Happy holidays? lol.
 
MissCris said:
I know I'm not so far north and/or west as the folks you mentioned, but northwest enough that I don't live in an area with any Civil War history attached to it. My mom and her family grew up in Oklahoma, and I have a lot of ancestors from the South. I grew up at least hearing about that era a lot, and I've always been interested in it.

I don't think it ever could hold the same meaning for me as it does for you or others who are literally surrounded by memorials and battle sites and museums and just the Southern life in general. But for me, there's definitely a fascination with it all, a certain sentimental feeling about it. There's a tragic romance about it, for me. I'm sure a part of that is due to having watched/read Gone With the Wind (though reading it is such an entirely different experience than watching the film- the film is good, but the book is excellent and far more detailed about the war itself rather than Scarlett's screwed up love life). Another good book is The Widow of the South (which reminds me I should read that again). Anyway, my point is, my view of the Civil War is probably skewed, and I admit I don't know a whole lot about it, but it's definitely interesting and important to me.

When I was 17, I went on vacation with my mom, aunt, and grandma- we drove from here to Georgia and South Carolina and visited some of the old plantations and cemeteries and Fort Sumter and...I dunno, a heck of a lot of places connected to that time period and the war. It was a really amazing opportunity, I recognized that even as a teenager, and I'd love to go back and have more time to just see everything. To me, everything east and south of Kansas is like a fairy tale world...the land itself, the veil of green on everything, the history, the homes...I'm in love with it. There's just something awe-inspiring about standing in a place where men fought and died for what they believed in, something tragic about seeing slave cabins all lined up out of sight of the mansion on a plantation, something mystical about being surrounded by giant oaks and magnolias draped with Spanish moss and imagining a farewell scene between a soldier and a Southern belle in her hoopskirts (that might be Gone With the Wind getting to me again...).

Um...so...short answer: Yes, it holds meaning to some people over this way.
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Beautiful post Cristen. Thanks for your thoughts. Gone With the Wind (the movie) does lend romance not really visible in the reality of it all. The war was this unfair mix of a much advanced gunnery technology and a warfare technique that was old as the war of 1812. It resulted in unbelievable numbers of casualties.
 
kenthomas27 said:
Beautiful post Cristen. Thanks for your thoughts. Gone With the Wind (the movie) does lend romance not really visible in the reality of it all. The war was this unfair mix of a much advanced gunnery technology and a warfare technique that was old as the war of 1812. It resulted in unbelievable numbers of casualties.
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Told you my view was a bit skewed :p

I do realize it was far more serious and ugly than the picture I've painted in my mind. The little bit I do know about the reality of it is really hard for me to absorb...the death and sickness and horror of it...it's really easy to detach the reality from the romanticized version. It's easier to gloss over that stuff than to let it hit me full on, that so many Americans died at the hand of Americans...yeah. That's probably not a right way to look at it, but then, I suspect a lot of people prefer the "easy" version over the truth. I don't know, I think I'm getting in over my head with this now, simply not knowing enough about it to comment further. Time to crack open a book or...website...or other um...educational source.

...makin' me work, and stuff. Pfft.
 
I have a bad fever. I want to get home so I am travelling by coach overnight (7 hour journey). I hope I will be okay.
 
Roh_Chris said:
I have a bad fever. I want to get home so I am travelling by coach overnight (7 hour journey). I hope I will be okay.
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Will be praying for you, brother. Get plenty of rest and fluids. Take a fever reducer too if you can (aspirin or tylenol or motrin).
 
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My brother Chris......my reply doesn't want to engage........so I'm just hoping you read this..........while flying.........do not open that air nozzle that is above your head........it blows cool air........and it is blowing germs right on you....it just uses air in the cabin and its circulating germs........leave it closed..........bring those Lysol wipes....And.....get rest...I'm praying for you..
 
kenthomas27 said:
I'm watching a program (again) about the American Civil war tonight. As a southerner, maybe as an easterner, I've grown up immersed in its history and I've never lost interest. I live near several battlefields and have visited many more - really more interested in the western theater than Lee's war in the east. Shiloh, Chickamauga, Lookout Mt., Nashville, and the trek to Atlanta - Resaca and the others, especially Kennesaw Mountain.

But all this left me wondering. How do folks in the west feel about the war? Does it have much of an impact or is there much interest in it at all? Even the folks from Texas who were part of the American Confederacy - has the war had much impact on you or is your interest in the war been something you've always had? How about Gypsy in Oregon or Catherder in California - does the war hold any wonderment for you?

I'm not sure it actually would touch people in the way it might a southerner. i have found artifact plenty of times - once a whole cannonball and several mini balls, even a union button once. There was still a stone fence built as part of a picket line near a neighborhood I lived in once when little.

To me, there's still a shadow of sorts that haunts this land. There's so many patches that are hallowed ground. There's still a kind of hushed dread in the thousand or so museums littering the south. Even the not so used rail lines form vanishing points that seem to moan still; a lonely look to a highway with historic markers around every bend. It seems every small town has black steel fenced in CSA tombstones on their boneyards with chiseled lettering shallow'd by a century and a half of rain.

Does it play a role in other's lives?
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I like history, Abraham Lincoln is fascinating to me. The fact that our country was so divided then is astonishing to me. The idea that people accepted slavery like it was OK, still shocks me. Have you ever read Mrs Lincoln's dress maker? Great story and some historical facts in it as well. Also my Mother in law has a book of civil war photos redone in color. You should check it out.
 
cottage bread? Never had it...am I missing out on some sort of food fulfillment by not having it? Gotta get ready for work wooo!

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