Catholic Heresy (for the record)

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jeff_peacemkr

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i didn't say necessarily that the mother of harlots is more evil than her daughters. no. it is a miracle of grace and trusting Yahweh in Jesus that anyone anywhere is saved.


As did Lutherans slaughter priests, Calvin ordered the burning of Catholics at the stake, and Henry VIII had thousands of Catholics slaughtered for refusing to acknowledge his bigamy as marriage. Orthodox have killed Catholics, Coptics have killed Orthodox. Protestants have killed all three. Protestants have killed Jews and Muslims. Welcome to humanity. Where the evil of men's hearts seeks power wherever it dwell. Do I defend the murder of innocents? No. But do not get on a high horse and respond, "We have killed less, and therefore we are less of a murderer." Numbers my friend don't win you the prize of most or least holy. The Templars will stand before Christ for the slaughter of Jerusalem. Lutheran, Methodist, and Baptist ministers will stand before Christ for their support of Adolf Hitler in Saxony (that's history my friend). Catholic Priests too will stand beside those ministers for the same crime. You want to believe us to be more evil because we have spent more time among the world. Protestants learned quickly the art of conversion at the point of a sword. There have been devils among us Christians since the twelve, why do you think we are the only ones who have dealt with this affliction?
 
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Can you prove any of these with real historical sources? And you do understand that we protestants had to fight to be set free from Rome's power...to my knowledge all the protestants wanted was to get out from the boot of the Rome...and if in the conflict some Protestants acted ungodly then I will be the first to say they cannot represent God...even to this day Rome has raped children and covered up its crimes ...this group cannot ever represent Christ...ever!
Michael Servetus, burned alive at the direction of John Calvin, October 27, 1553. (Servetus was denounced a heretic by both Catholics and Calvinists)
Calvin and his Church heavily persecuted the Anabaptists, leading to some killings. (This is also true of Lutherans, followers of Zwingli, Anglicans, Catholics, and Orthodox.)
The Lutheran Revolt which killed many priests, monks, and Catholics. 1524-1525 (Luther denounced this revolt, for many had been murdered in his name. He called them, "animals" and "filth".)
Directly by order of the throne of England, King Henry VIII ordered the deaths of 983 Catholic men and women. Also, in the Dissolution of the Monasteries enacted by King Henry VIII led to thousands of Catholic peasants who rose up against the King, plus the slaughter of monks and priests. All in all, Henry VIII left almost 12,000 Catholic monks and nuns homeless with only three choices, "leave, convert, or die."
Deitrich Bonhoffer opposed Adolf Hitler, and the Lutherans stood with him. Except those in Saxony, Bavaria, and Hanover. They openly stood with Adolf Hitler.
The United Methodist Church supported Eugenics and its false science. They agreed with Adolf Hitler's "science" of the "lesser" races. In 2008, the United Methodist Church publically apologized for its support of Eugenics and the fall out thereof.
German Baptists refused to join the "Confessing Church" that openly denounced Adolf Hitler. They were complicent and at times supportive of the anti-Semitic views of the National Socialists. Many Catholic Priests were also supportive of the Nazis.
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The Irish Troubles


My point is clear. The argument that only Catholics kill their fellow Christians is a false assumption. It was rampant across the ages as sectarian violence rose up against each other. It has only truly been in the last 200 years that the violence has begun to ebb, as the enemies of Christ have again risen to power.

The persecution of Christianity will end the Reformation and the Schism. We may not all be of one sect or denomination by the time Christ returns. But most assuredly, as Satan builds strength on earth, we will be One Body of Believers, suffering and being persecuted for our belief in the One True God.
 
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jeff_peacemkr

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the fact that all those ones of any group killed others willingly and without repenting is proof that they are not in Christ Jesus.
 

Jackson123

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And if those groups have repented? Which most of them have...
You never know brother Thomist. The other day I watch youtube, the testimony of ex catholic nuns from south america. when she repent and convert to Christian. His boss ask her to pay the scholarship she ever receipt, and because she had no money, they put her in prison with rough treatment.
 
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didymos

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...Allah is the same God of Abraham, though Allah did not teach Jesus is God...
True, catholicism is heresy, although catholics still believe in the God of Jesus Christ (in their own twisted way). Allah on the other hand sure ISN'T the same as God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of Jesus Christ.
 

Jackson123

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True, catholicism is heresy, although catholics still believe in the God of Jesus Christ (in their own twisted way). Allah on the other hand sure ISN'T the same as God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob, the God of Jesus Christ.
Yes brother, that why I don't believe what brother Thomist said. They officially state that they share the same god with muslim.


It mean as long as no body know, kill infidel is OK.
 

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...understand that we protestants had to fight to be set free from Rome's power...
I'm just curious, if you are "free" from the power of the great harlot, then why are you still called her offspring because you worship on the day she commanded as opposed to the day commanded by Yah?
 

Jackson123

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all of them, rcc worst of all, are getting worse daily.
yup no sign or repent.

In the 60's when Dr Alberto Rivera said that every years there is sex party going on in Vatican as ritual for devil worshiper.

Then no body believe and Catholic accused Dr Alberto as a liar.

What happen in this News paper. Is this sign of repent?



  1. [h=3]Emanuela Orlandi 'was kidnapped for sex parties for Vatican ...[/h]www.telegraph.co.uk/.../vaticancityandholysee/.../E...


    The Daily Telegraph



    May 22, 2012 - A teenage girl whose disappearance in Rome has remained a mystery for 30 years was kidnapped for sex parties by a gang involving Vatican ...You've visited this page 5 times. Last visit: 12/4/14


 
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GaryA

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Yes they killed thousands and thousands of Christians for these things... Do you really think they represent Jesus Christ?
And thousands of thousands --- the number is in the millions...


The persecution of Christianity will end the Reformation and the Schism. We may not all be of one sect or denomination by the time Christ returns. But most assuredly, as Satan builds strength on earth, we will be One Body of Believers, suffering and being persecuted for our belief in the One True God.
~ No one has persecuted more Christians than the RCC ( HRE ).

They are the all-time leader of Christian persecution, throughout history.

~ Satan is "building strength" through the RCC [ hierarchy ].

The modern ecumenical movement is NOT as good a thing as you might think.
 

notuptome

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The only thing that matters is the doctrine regarding salvation. Man is saved by grace and not through church rites. Man must be saved by grace or he is not saved.

Sorry to all the catholics who adhere to Rome's doctrines you are very religious but you have neglected the very basic essence of the gospel. The blood of Christ atones for man's sins. The blood of Christ is wholly sufficient to do the job. God has accepted the blood of Christ so nothing additional can be added.

All the trappings of high religion mean nothing. God is ministering to souls everyday. When you get saved you will realize that the other stuff just isn't important.

For the cause of Christ
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Zifnab21

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I wonder do you think it was right to try and kill all those Protestants for leaving the RCC...like thy did..or to kill people for reading the bible? or for praying in their own tongue?
This is something that is often distorted and overestimated by groups and people who have prejudices and an agenda.

Then you fail to mention the atrocities that Protestants committed against the Jewish community (including the the Nazi Party using Luther's "On the Jews and Their Lies" to justify the holocaust), slaughter of Native Americans and other incidents.
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notuptome

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This is something that is often distorted and overestimated by groups and people who have prejudices and an agenda.

Then you fail to mention the atrocities that Protestants committed against the Jewish community (including the the Nazi Party using Luther's "On the Jews and Their Lies" to justify the holocaust), slaughter of Native Americans and other incidents.
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Such a thing would never be said of Rome.

For the cause of Christ
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Mitspa

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This is something that is often distorted and overestimated by groups and people who have prejudices and an agenda.

Then you fail to mention the atrocities that Protestants committed against the Jewish community (including the the Nazi Party using Luther's "On the Jews and Their Lies" to justify the holocaust), slaughter of Native Americans and other incidents.
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Well Hitler was raises a catholic and its well know Rome supported Hitler from the beginning... So I say any group that commits crimes CANNOT represent God and should not ever be trusted by those who know and love God...I have no part of any group ever accused of such things...but we know even to this day that children are being raped and its being covered up by those in Rome who have power to stop such things...do your really believe these men represent Jesus Christ ..while they do such things?
 
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Zifnab21

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Well Hitler was raises a catholic and its well know Rome supported Hitler from the beginning... So I say any group that commits crimes CANNOT represent God and should not ever be trusted by those who know and love God...I have no part of any group ever accused of such things...but we know even to this day that children are being raped and its being covered up by those in Rome who have power to stop such things...do your really believe these men represent Jesus Christ ..while they do such things?
It is not widely known that Rome supported Hitler. The opposite has been proven and documented

Research has also been conducted on protestant pastors indicating an 11 percent phedophile rate, more than 2.5 times the rate associated with Catholics and well above the national average. Apparently you don't consider this an issue, which is kind of sick.
 

Jimbone

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Every question you've been asked has been deflected and then you point a finger at another group that has nothing to do with they question asked. Typical Roman tactics. Just because someone is "worse" or has done something just as bad does NOT excuse the RCC and it's leaders actions. Even if the RCC has the least number of pedophilia victims of any organization of any time that does not excuse their crimes nor does pointing a finger answer a question. That's what's sick to me personally.
 
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Mitspa

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It is not widely known that Rome supported Hitler. The opposite has been proven and documented

Research has also been conducted on protestant pastors indicating an 11 percent phedophile rate, more than 2.5 times the rate associated with Catholics and well above the national average. Apparently you don't consider this an issue, which is kind of sick.
you just made that up...lol Yea just lie and cover for them...share in their sins...hope you have enough sense not to let any kids you love near any one of those guys who call themselves priest.... how sad that they have people like you to defend them so they can continue to rape small children...may God have mercy on you.
 
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kennethcadwell

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Well Hitler was raises a catholic and its well know Rome supported Hitler from the beginning... So I say any group that commits crimes CANNOT represent God and should not ever be trusted by those who know and love God...I have no part of any group ever accused of such things...but we know even to this day that children are being raped and its being covered up by those in Rome who have power to stop such things...do your really believe these men represent Jesus Christ ..while they do such things?
I don't agree with everything the Catholic the church did or does, there is a lot that them and Protestant's have been connected to that they both did that tainted Christianity. Research your history and you will see both were connected to the innocent killings of individuals in the past.
The thing I would caution you on though is that you brought up the raping of children by priest, and that you would have no part in any group that is accused of such things.
You do realize that if these priest or any other individual convicted of such a crime repents and asks forgiveness of it, and never does it again will be in heaven just like you and me.