I evolved from snowflakes

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maxwel

maxwel

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If you go to a house and see a man lying in blood, with a knife by his side and lacerations on his body, blood on the knife and punctures the same depth as the blade, would you come to the conclusion he was cut by a knife?

You weren't there. How could you POSSIBLY know??!! :O
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And that is a ridiculous analogy that has nothing to do with the issue of life evolving from non-life.

Deflection doesn't equal an answer.
You know that, but you deflect anyway...
because you have no answer.
 
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maxwel said:
And that is a ridiculous analogy that has nothing to do with the issue of life evolving from non-life.

Deflection doesn't equal an answer.
You know that, but you deflect anyway...
because you have no answer.
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Actually it's a perfectly plausible representation of the ability to know things even if we weren't there to see them progress moment by moment. We definitely CAN know things about the past by looking at the present. Evolution is similar, just on a much larger timescale.

You should probably read up, too. Evolutionary theory says nothing about the origins of life. It deals in the progression of already established life.
 
T_Laurich

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Okay. Can you please disprove this 'god' by physical observation and testable means:

This god cannot be seen. This god cannot be heard. This god does not present itself in the world. This god is a spiritual god, not a physical god. This god exists outside the realm of natural reality.

Can you disprove (or prove) the existence of that god by scientific means??
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The temple lot in Independence Missouri was claimed to built in Joseph Smith's lifetime for the temple of God...
To this day, it is an empty field in the middle of the town... :)









And to test this again lets check if its there right now....









NOPE STILL MISSING, YOUR ARGUMENTS ARE NULL AND VOID... IF MY GOD WAS FALSE YOU COULD DISPROVE HIM!
 
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T_Laurich said:
The temple lot in Independence Missouri was claimed to built in Joseph Smith's lifetime for the temple of God...
To this day, it is an empty field in the middle of the town... :)









And to test this again lets check if its there right now....









NOPE STILL MISSING, YOUR ARGUMENTS ARE NULL AND VOID... IF MY GOD WAS FALSE YOU COULD DISPROVE HIM!
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I'm not trying to disprove a metaphysical God's existence - I can't. There is no way to do that. That is the point I'm trying unsuccessfully to get across to you; God cannot be disproved. How can anybody disprove something that can't be seen, heard, smelled, touched, tasted, tested, observed or experimented with? It's an impossible ask. It's like me asking you to disprove the existence of quatzelcoatl or Shiva. It's no possible.

That said, there's also no way to prove his existence either.

These responses aren't about me trying to disprove God by scientific means, I wouldn't even attempt it, because it's silly. My responses are about letting the OP know that trying to convince her of evolution's scientific validity is pointless if her beliefs are such that scientific logic is her enemy. She, much like you, can't be convinced no-matter how compelling the evidence. You both have perspectives that render scientifically logical thought burdensome and suspicious to you.

You view evolution and Christian faith as mutually exclusive and incompatible.
 
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T_Laurich

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I'm not trying to disprove a metaphysical God's existence - I can't. There is no way to do that. That is the point I'm trying unsuccessfully to get across to you; God cannot be disproved. How can anybody disprove something that can't be seen, heard, smelled, touched, tasted, tested, observed or experimented with? It's an impossible ask. It's like me asking you to disprove the existence of quatzelcoatl or Shiva. It's no possible.

That said, there's also no way to prove his existence either.

These responses aren't about me trying to disprove God by scientific means, I wouldn't even attempt it, because it's silly. My responses are about letting the OP know that trying to convince her of evolution's scientific validity is pointless if her beliefs are such that scientific logic is her enemy. She, much like you, can't be convinced no-matter how compelling the evidence. You both have perspectives that render scientifically logical thought burdensome and suspicious to you.

You view evolution and Christian faith as mutually exclusive and incompatible.
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You sir are stupid, I just disproved a metaphysical being in front of your eyes... I tested and observed and tried it....

Do the same to my God, show me a false prophecy! Show me where something didn't happen!!! Show me where my God contradicts himself!!!!!

PLEASE I BEG YOU!!!




You can test my God right now through prophecy, 1/3 of the bible is prophecy... You will not have to look long to find it... Show me 1 false prophecy!!! Just one... And my God is fake... That is all it takes...
 
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You sir are stupid, I just disproved a metaphysical being in front of your eyes... I tested and observed and tried it....

Do the same to my God, show me a false prophecy! Show me where something didn't happen!!! Show me where my God contradicts himself!!!!!

PLEASE I BEG YOU!!!




You can test my God right now through prophecy, 1/3 of the bible is prophecy... You will not have to look long to find it... Show me 1 false prophecy!!! Just one... And my God is fake... That is all it takes...
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Failed biblical prophecies - RationalWiki
 
T_Laurich

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Failed biblical prophecies - RationalWiki
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Tyre was destroyed, and to this day it is a place you dry nest upon, and no man has rebuilt it... the romans destroyed tyre... Your source fails to tell you the second war... It would be like saying if the bible prophicied that America would kill Sudam Hussien, you go "in the 1980's America invaded and left him in power!" OH YAH WHAT ABOUT THE NEXT WAR???

To the Nile river BBC News - Will Ethiopia's Grand Renaissance Dam dry the Nile in Egypt?


Again prove my God wrong PLEASE!!!

Tell me where it falsely prophecies, PLEASE!!! THIS IS ALL YOU HAVE TO DO TO FREE ME OF IGNORANCE!

LOL, I think it's funny you posted "rationalwiki" LOL And the sources are wrong LOLZ!
 
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T_Laurich said:
Tyre was destroyed, and to this day it is a place you dry nest upon, and no man has rebuilt it... the romans destroyed tyre... Your source fails to tell you the second war... It would be like saying if the bible prophicied that America would kill Sudam Hussien, you go "in the 1980's America invaded and left him in power!" OH YAH WHAT ABOUT THE NEXT WAR???

To the Nile river BBC News - Will Ethiopia's Grand Renaissance Dam dry the Nile in Egypt?


Again prove my God wrong PLEASE!!!

Tell me where it falsely prophecies, PLEASE!!! THIS IS ALL YOU HAVE TO DO TO FREE ME OF IGNORANCE!

LOL, I think it's funny you posted "rationalwiki" LOL And the sources are wrong LOLZ!
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Except from the prophecy of the destruction of Tyre:

''And I will cause the noise of thy songs to cease; and the sound of thy harps shall be no more heard. And I will make thee like the top of a rock: thou shalt be a place to spread nets upon; thou shalt be built no more: for I the LORD have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD.''

But wait, Tyre still exists. It's a UNESCO World Heritage city, and gets built upon daily.

Tyre, Lebanon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Uh oh, prophecy was wrong :/
 
T_Laurich

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Except from the prophecy of the destruction of Tyre:

''And I will cause the noise of thy songs to cease; and the sound of thy harps shall be no more heard. And I will make thee like the top of a rock: thou shalt be a place to spread nets upon; thou shalt be built no more: for I the LORD have spoken it, saith the Lord GOD.''

But wait, Tyre still exists. It's a UNESCO World Heritage city, and gets built upon daily.

Tyre, Lebanon - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Uh oh, prophecy was wrong :/
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Tyre does not exist, do you not know that Tyre was an island?






Nice try, but it is still correct, never has it been rebuilt... And never will we find the remains. Only find proof that it existed...
 
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I found this interesting. From my reading, it seems king Ahiram (10th century BC) joined two islets by landfill, thus extending the city. If you peruse a map, there is the current Tyre/Sour as we know it, as well as the ruins of Tyre (an excavation site and tourist attraction) to the east a bit.
 
T_Laurich

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Absurd, Un-Imaginable?
God thought of it :)
He will ravage your settlements on the mainland with the sword; he will set up siege works against you, build a ramp up to your walls and raise his shields against you.

[video=youtube;e1GIHgUgLZI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1GIHgUgLZI[/video]
 
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