I don't really like girls who wear makeup. (mascara, eye shadow, foundation, gloss)

[agirlandherguitar]

Also, the women in those photographs are photoshopped on top of everything else, so they're not even a real representation of what a woman looks like with makeup on! Just caricature.

 

[Susanna]

I'm hereby admitting to the fact that I love make up, I'm having my hair fixed often and I like wearing nice clothes. I'm not doing this out of insecurity issues, but because it feels good. I think men should be minding their own business and not be ranting about our use of make up...just sayin...

 

[Liamson]

Liamson, get out of my head. I was just having this conversation with a friend today!

On a regular day I don't wear eye makeup. Normally it's just a foundation and power to compensate for redness and oiliness. Truthfully my jobs don't require me to get dressed up so I feel like I wasted my time by putting anything on my face. But when I do wear make up it's usually for an event, dinner with friends, special occasions. Really, there is nothing wrong with it. It's still me under there! I don't go crazy... and I detest drawn on eyebrows with a passion!

But to make the claim "I really don't like girls with makeup" excludes about 95% of the women on this planet. Really, it's unrealistic to find that naturally beautiful goddess who has perfect skin and never wears makeup and is comfortable in her own skin. That kind of woman doesn't exist until she is much older and holds her identity as her own, and if she is younger then she is 1 in a billion. Sad, but true.

Whether a woman wears makeup or not is of no concern to any man. If you don't like chicks with makeup then by all means, ignore them like you said you do. But understand that it is a conscious effort, like you are purposely looking at a woman's physical appearance (GASP! shocker!) and passing a judgement on her, the same way many men pass judgement on the women who don't wear any makeup. We are damned if we do and damned if we don't it seems.

Well, they do exist, but I'm not really looking for all that.

And you're right about the judgement part. That is what inspired me to post this thread. I would have consciously treated the women on the left different than the women on the right. My expectations for the women on the left are different than for the women on the right. I didn't realize this about myself until I saw the pictures.

Say, for some odd reason I was digging through dating profile pictures on a random dating website. A lot of women like to put what they think is their "Best foot forward" by putting their best face on. I would have ignored almost all of them, judging them or whatever, looking for women on the left.

The women on the right scare me. In the same way that Children's beauty pageants, Porn Actresses, Kim Kardashian, and Gossip magazines scare me. And granted a lot of men, "Enjoy" such things. If they didn't, they wouldn't exist.

In my opinion, in the pictures provided, the gals are transforming themselves into someone else.

I looked at the gals on the left and the ones on the right, and in most cases, was asking "is that even the same gal?!".

Being ourselves shouldn't mean hiding our natural identity. A little make-up highlighting things is one thin; it can enhance what's already there. Baking it on a needing a chisel and/or sandpaper to get it off is another.

I think we can all agree that, while make-up and clothes do have a similarities in function, they are nonetheless different.

It reminds me of everything that is wrong with the society presented in the Hunger Games. Only its not a movie, its real and its everywhere.

I would choose girl on the left over girl on the right, every time.

 

[Gandalf]

My wife is one of the lucky girls that don’t wear makeup. She is a natural beauty and blessed like that. I have dated girls before that can’t go 30 minutes before checking their makeup and that irritated me so I guess my wife was handpicked by Abba Father

 

[seoulsearch]

I really love that you guys prefer natural women--it's very refreshing and encouraging!

However, one thing I wanted to point out is that makeup does NOT have to look RuPaul. Personally, I'm scared as well of the thought of things like gluing fake hair to my eyelids and covering them with a pint of mascara... I'm not judging anyone, I'm just saying that for me, the thought of having eyelashes that look like overgrown spiders is kinda freaky.

But let me ask you--guys, do you ever get pimples? Do they ever leave those little red marks on your face that don't go away for weeks or months and do you ever wish you could cover them up? Do you ever wish you could somehow make your skin tone a little more even and not so obviously splotchy?

Enter the magic of well-done, carefully blended makeup. Whenever I see people with complexion problems I always pray that it will be healed, because I've been there. If I go completely "natural", my own mother thinks I have the flu. I have pale skin and baby-fine hair, even though it's dark, so "in the natural", I look as if I have no eyebrows. Same goes for my lip color--very pale. Even worse, my dress code at work calls for all black, which, with my coloring, completely washes out any color I have in my face to begin with.

With a light blending of foundation/concealer (it's more like putting on regular face lotion, not a mask), eyebrow powder, and slight, naturally colored lip color (which is all I wear), I actually look like a normal, presentable person. People never even know I'm wearing makeup because I've had plenty of women tell me "you might look better with a little makeup"! Ha!

But at the same time, people also usually never realize I've struggled with complexion problems either. I've even had people tell me I should model because "your skin is so perfect." HA, HA, and HA!! If only they knew (or saw me after I washed my face.)

Sometimes I actually feel sorry for guys in that it's not socially acceptable for them to wear makeup, because it's obvious that they're embarrassed about something on their face and can't cover it up. Makeup isn't perfect but it CAN make a huge difference.

But hey, if I meet a guy who WANTS me to look like the Zombie Apocalypse come to life, who am I to argue?

 

[Hellooo]

A google image search indicates the original pictures are before/afters of porn actresses. Performers (actors, ballet dancers, clowns, etc) wear stage makeup to exaggerate certain features...I'm speculating that its probably the same idea for these particular women. I'm not sure its a fair comparison to draw between everyday makeup usage to stage makeup usage.

 

[hannahbeth1124]

In fact, I'd be willing to bet that half the girls you find approachable, are actually wearing a little makeup.

 

[ArtsieSteph]

To be completely honest, I'm one of those girls that just often doesn't wear make-up. So I guess I'm pretty biased as well. When I lool at those girls at first and then the make-up'd versions I just think, "man that doesn't even look like them." Make up hides a number of things: bad complexion, "imperfections" like moles or beauty marks, or maybe even scars. So I can understand why women wear it as a sort of security thin, but honestly after a while it just covers up their individuality too. Like that first girl, she has such a unique look! But once the mascara goes on it's sort of blurred.

That being said, I do wear make up for very special occasions, so I understand the desire to make yourself look nice. But when it becomes like...making it so that you're hiding under all that make up because you feel bad about yourself...I don't know...

 

[tourist]

My wife is one of the lucky girls that don’t wear makeup. She is a natural beauty and blessed like that. I have dated girls before that can’t go 30 minutes before checking their makeup and that irritated me so I guess my wife was handpicked by Abba Father

My wife was handpicked by Abba Father as well. Like your wife, mine is a natural beauty too. I am truly blessed.

 

[Grace-Like-Rain]

My heart goes out to people who struggle with severe acne. If make-up helps them get through that trial, I'm glad. If a woman loses a breast due to cancer, and wants to have an implant to help her feel more comfortable with herself, I'm 100% supportive. If a woman who is going bald chooses to have hair implants to try to feel more "normal", I think it's fine. None of these things are natural, but sometimes people just need help.

That's much different than the beauty debutante whose foundation looks like a painted doll.

 

[Test_F_i_2_Luv]

Also, the women in those photographs are photoshopped on top of everything else, so they're not even a real representation of what a woman looks like with makeup on! Just caricature.

Hadn't thought of that. Could very well be true!

Same situation with all the magazines that girls/women read. They wrongly assume that what they're viewing is how those models naturally look.

 

[Test_F_i_2_Luv]

In fact, I'd be willing to bet that half the girls you find approachable, are actually wearing a little makeup.

Key word is little.

If you think the pictures shown at the open of the thread are gals with just a "little" makeup, it's probably time to clean off your computer screen.

For further assistance, click on the video below & go full screen:

<font color="#008000">[video=youtube;sMmjSE_d6J0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sMmjSE_d6J0[/video]

 

[jb]

It just isn't a big deal either way.

And I have far more important things to think about to be honest!

 

[Liamson]

To be completely honest, I'm one of those girls that just often doesn't wear make-up. So I guess I'm pretty biased as well. When I lool at those girls at first and then the make-up'd versions I just think, "man that doesn't even look like them." Make up hides a number of things: bad complexion, "imperfections" like moles or beauty marks, or maybe even scars. So I can understand why women wear it as a sort of security thin, but honestly after a while it just covers up their individuality too. Like that first girl, she has such a unique look! But once the mascara goes on it's sort of blurred.

That being said, I do wear make up for very special occasions, so I understand the desire to make yourself look nice. But when it becomes like...making it so that you're hiding under all that make up because you feel bad about yourself...I don't know...

This.

Just This.

 

[Liamson]

A google image search indicates the original pictures are before/afters of porn actresses. Performers (actors, ballet dancers, clowns, etc) wear stage makeup to exaggerate certain features...I'm speculating that its probably the same idea for these particular women. I'm not sure its a fair comparison to draw between everyday makeup usage to stage makeup usage.

Yeah, I found it on Reddit. There is nothing inappropriate, except for the comments. The Comments are the reason I didn't simply post a link.

 

[agirlandherguitar]

Liamson, don't worry about "inappropriate". I've seen that thread before too, sans porn, and there were at least two dozen images of these women before and after. I remember being pretty surprised at how normal these women look without all that stuff caked on... and I remembered that even though they are porn stars they are still people with souls that hurt. What many men and women think is "empowering" is really degrading.

 

[Hellooo]

(poor grammar ahead)

I wasn't questioning the inappropriateness in that sense, I was saying that those weren't relevant or realistic examples where stage/performance makeup application is being utilized, if you were talking about women using makeup in general.
Those are two entirely different things, dolling yourself up for those type of videos/making up your face to perform onstage or onscreen- - vs wearing makeup to go out, run errands, or go to work.

Unless you truly perceive it all as the same, then - I got nothing.

 

[Enga]

The answer of the makerup is in the bible. Isaiah 2:16-24

The Lord says,
“The women of Zion are haughty,
walking along with outstretched necks,
flirting with their eyes,
strutting along with swaying hips,
with ornaments jingling on their ankles.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]Therefore the Lord will bring sores on the heads of the women of Zion;
the Lord will make their scalps bald.”
[SUP]18 [/SUP]In that day the Lord will snatch away their finery: the bangles and headbands and crescent necklaces, [SUP]19 [/SUP]the earrings and bracelets and veils, [SUP]20 [/SUP]the headdresses and anklets and sashes, the perfume bottles and charms, [SUP]21 [/SUP]the signet rings and nose rings, [SUP]22 [/SUP]the fine robes and the capes and cloaks, the purses [SUP]23 [/SUP]and mirrors, and the linen garments and tiaras and shawls.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]Instead of fragrance there will be a stench;
instead of a sash, a rope;
instead of well-dressed hair, baldness;
instead of fine clothing, sackcloth;
instead of beauty, branding.

Things are happening right on time. we have to follower bible carefully and know the event, timeline, the calender in the bible to know what is happening. They are fulfuilling bible. its about time now we have to discover Daneiel 12:4. find it out ourself.

 

[Liamson]

Here's where my mind goes with all of this, and perhaps its a bit off base but, I'll use an iceberg as an analogy.


Consider that we only see 1/8th of an iceberg from the surface. The rest we can't see, admittedly there is much we don't know going on below the surface of everyone. But even though its only 1/8th of the picture, that fraction tells us a story all its own.


This gets interesting when we think of it in terms of identity. In our minds how, how we view ourselves determines much of what we allow the world to see of us.

Am I content, real, capable, beautiful, etc? All these questions we to some degree wonder about. But the world sees the 1/8th.


So out of that 1/8th, there is a portion we feel we can steer, control or manipulate to our favor. If I paint a smile on top of my iceberg does that make it a happy ice berg?


Here is where it gets tricky, to what am I seeking validation from? The internal voice of our mother, telling us how to dress? A guy or girl we once dated, and long after breaking up, we still subconsciously take into consideration all the advice and opinions they had for us? It is a matter of fitting in, not being seen as behind or noticeably different? It is a matter of expressing our personality and individuality? What if we don't know how we are supposed to feel about all of this so we simply follow the societal standards?


I cannot deduce ^THIS^ just by looking at someone else. But, if I think about it, I can know why I look the way I do.


Because we are all human, my empathy would lead me to believe that there is a sort of idea that we are appealing to when we dress or appear a certain way. Whether the target is tangible or intangible, it is completely subjective. It is known only to us, and barely, our motivations for being as we are.

Yet it is out of these understandings that we glean information about each other. In the same way that I know touching an electric fence will hurt me, and therefore hurt someone else to the same degree. We learn about each other, through our own experiences and observations of other people's behavior.

Which if this is true one way, it can also be true in another way. If I see someone else getting hurt by something, I can assume to myself that it was painful.

Because I can only see 1/8th of what is going on and out of that 1/8th a person can only do so much, I can take how much investment, economy, time, energy, effort, etc a person put into maintaining their sense of who they are to themselves, as being proportionate to how content and balanced a person is unto themselves. So regardless of who or why, the end result, and the effort required to achieve it, don't necessarily tell the whole story about someone, but it tells me enough about the relationship a person has with their idea of who they think they are, to themselves especially.

 

[Loveneverfails]

(poor grammar ahead)

I wasn't questioning the inappropriateness in that sense, I was saying that those weren't relevant or realistic examples where stage/performance makeup application is being utilized, if you were talking about women using makeup in general.
Those are two entirely different things, dolling yourself up for those type of videos/making up your face to perform onstage or onscreen- - vs wearing makeup to go out, run errands, or go to work.

Unless you truly perceive it all as the same, then - I got nothing.

This is a great point with which I very much agree, but I'd like to add that there ARE women out there whose idea of "everyday makeup" is equivalent to the photos Liamson shared. My friend's sister is among them. She won't leave the house unless her face looks red-carpet ready. I think the last time I saw her "real" face was when she was 13 (she's 19 now)

and she's not the only example from my personal life that I could think of, she's just the youngest one, unfortunately.