Can Christians use curse words?

[Reborn]

hi there, Jason.

i think the OP's point is that it doesn't matter what replacement words we use...

i have friends who are offended at the use of 'golly'...precisely because it's a replacement.

if i'm not mistaken, 'bloody' was (is?) considered profane in the UK, but in the States it isn't.

i'm not saying hey! who cares what we say.
but to an extent, it really is cultural.

Thank you. We will get 'em to see...patience my Dear...patience.

 

[tourist]

Other good replacement words (That people don't consider bad),

1. Snickerdoodle!
2. Bananas!
3. Sharky Mark de Mark!
4. Jumpin’Jiminy!
5. Tartar Sauce!

If I were to talk like this people would laugh at me. I would then get angry and I just may say certain words back and I can tell you right now that I am not going to tell someone to go 'snickerdoodle' himself.

 

[Reborn]

If I were to talk like this people would laugh at me. I would then get angry and I just may say certain words back and I can tell you right now that I am not going to tell someone to go 'snickerdoodle' himself.

Right!? I actually think those words might be more offensive than the 20 or so words we are not suppose to say? Golly, no wonder The Simpsons make Ned Flanders the stereotypical, yet offensive to Christian-Christian.

 

[Jason0047]

I covered all of this, my man. Please reread entire thread, and you'll see I agree with you...for the most part. BWELL

I looked at your original post and a post or two after and I am not following what you are saying. You believe certain words in other countries that we speak here would be offensive to them. Well, if they knew you were a foreigner, I am sure they might cut you some slack (If you didn't know). But after you knew, there would be no excuse. Each culture has it's certain words that are a "no" "no." Word are just words. But a culture can label certain words as being highly offensive and inappropriate. We are to be as innocent as doves and as wise as serpents. We are to be peace makers waging an invisible spiritual war thru prayer and telling people about Jesus Christ. Paul says let our speech be full of grace. How can our speech be full of grace if it is dirty by the world's standards? Paul said when he was with the Jews, he became a Jew so as to win them over essentially. This does not mean Paul converted back to Judaism. What this means is Paul appeared as much as possible to speak and look like a Jew in the confines of being a Christian and follower of Jesus Christ. Our speech should be loving and good. People should come up to you and say, I have never seen you cuss before. That should be a part of your change of having a new life with Christ. You will want to do what is always good and best so as to lead people to Jesus Christ.

 

[Jason0047]

If I were to talk like this people would laugh at me. I would then get angry and I just may say certain words back and I can tell you right now that I am not going to tell someone to go 'snickerdoodle' himself.

First off, Christians would not shout even a clean bad word at another person unless they were playing around or something. A person who desires to love God and to love all other people just wouldn't do that. They don't hate people. They want to lead all men to Christ. They are not out to serve themselves. Which leads me to my second point. That is, we are to love and pray for our enemies and to do good to those that despitefully use us. We are not like the world and we do not imitate their sinful dark ways, my friend. God's people behave in a good and holy way. They do not act bad like the world.

 

[Jason0047]

Besides, let them laugh at me. What harm is it in them laughing at me? Is it going to hurt my pride? What pride? I am nothing and Jesus Christ is everything. If I truly care about leading them to Christ, being humble and laughed at is a small price to pay. Whatever it takes for the cause of Jesus Christ.

 

[AbbeyJoy]

Question is why do we even want to curse? Jw

 

[gb9]

First off, Christians would not shout even a clean bad word at another person unless they were playing around or something. A person who desires to love God and to love all other people just wouldn't do that. They don't hate people. They want to lead all men to Christ. They are not out to serve themselves. Which leads me to my second point. That is, we are to love and pray for our enemies and to do good to those that despitefully use us. We are not like the world and we do not imitate their sinful dark ways, my friend. God's people behave in a good and holy way. They do not act bad like the world.

as hard as it to do, you are correct. if someone starts cussing out a Christian out, and the Christian does the same who could tell the difference?

 

[tourist]

Besides, let them laugh at me. What harm is it in them laughing at me? Is it going to hurt my pride? What pride? I am nothing and Jesus Christ is everything. If I truly care about leading them to Christ, being humble and laughed at is a small price to pay. Whatever it takes for the cause of Jesus Christ.

I agree with you. Sorry for yanking your chain.

 

[Reborn]

I looked at your original post and a post or two after and I am not following what you are saying. You believe certain words in other countries that we speak here would be offensive to them. Well, if they knew you were a foreigner, I am sure they might cut you some slack (If you didn't know). But after you knew, there would be no excuse. Each culture has it's certain words that are a "no" "no." Word are just words. But a culture can label certain words as being highly offensive and inappropriate. We are to be as innocent as doves and as wise as serpents. We are to be peace makers waging an invisible spiritual war thru prayer and telling people about Jesus Christ. Paul says let our speech be full of grace. How can our speech be full of grace if it is dirty by the world's standards? Paul said when he was with the Jews, he became a Jew so as to win them over essentially. This does not mean Paul converted back to Judaism. What this means is Paul appeared as much as possible to speak and look like a Jew in the confines of being a Christian and follower of Jesus Christ. Our speech should be loving and good. People should come up to you and say, I have never seen you cuss before. That should be a part of your change of having a new life with Christ. You will want to do what is always good and best so as to lead people to Jesus Christ.

I agree and well put. But I do not talk that way or use those words when speaking to others. I know those words are offensive...to that individual. But the entire point of the thread was to show we ALL live and act by man made doctrine sometimes. TECHNICALLY, AREN'T WE SUPPOSE TO FOLLOW CHRIST AND HIS TEACHINGS? Yes?, and so NO WHERE in the BIBLE does He give a list of specific words we can and can not use....that was all. WE have corrupted EVERY word we have ever used. So we are told to ignore what the world says is right, and although I'm not going to go around cussing to make a point, this is still the truth. I've learned in my 37 yrs on this planet -that usually if the masses lives by it- it's wrong. All I am saying. Thanks for responding Brother. BWell.

 

[Jason0047]

hi there, Jason.

i think the OP's point is that it doesn't matter what replacement words we use...

i have friends who are offended at the use of 'golly'...precisely because it's a replacement.

if i'm not mistaken, 'bloody' was (is?) considered profane in the UK, but in the States it isn't.

i'm not saying hey! who cares what we say.
but to an extent, it really is cultural.

I get that you can't please everyone in the universe. If saying "Golly" is offenseive to someone, of which I never heard of by the way here in the States, then don't say it around that person or come up with a better clean word to say when you vent if you are hit by flying metal pole to the head. The point I am trying to get at is that ..... speak with the best of your knowledge to that culture that you know to be good. IF..... IF.... you speak words that are bad knowing they KNOW it is bad, then it is not good because we are not here to offend and hurt people and make them feel sick to their stomach by our words, but we are here to lead them to Jesus Christ in loving and good words. If we slip up. God will understand. But..... if we choose to say bad words by the world's standards that are bad (When we KNOW they are bad - It is absolutely positively unacceptable).

 

[psychomom]

I get that you can't please everyone in the universe. If saying "Golly" is offenseive to someone, of which I never heard of by the way here in the States, then don't say it around that person or come up with a better clean word to say when you vent if you are hit by flying metal pole to the head. The point I am trying to get at is that ..... speak with the best of your knowledge to that culture that you know to be good. IF..... IF.... you speak words that are bad knowing they KNOW it is bad, then it is not good because we are not here to offend and hurt people and make them feel sick to their stomach by our words, but we are here to lead them to Jesus Christ in loving and good words. If we slip up. God will understand. But..... if we choose to say bad words by the world's standards that are bad (When we KNOW they are bad - It is absolutely positively unacceptable).

agreed!

 

[AbbeyJoy]

Funny story: one time back in high school I was in class with this classmate and he sais Jesus in form in a curse word and I yelled out Saves!! Lol he was like what? I was like nothing...lol

 

[Jason0047]

I agree and well put. But I do not talk that way or use those words when speaking to others. I know those words are offensive...to that individual. But the entire point of the thread was to show we ALL live and act by man made doctrine sometimes. TECHNICALLY, AREN'T WE SUPPOSE TO FOLLOW CHRIST AND HIS TEACHINGS? Yes?, and so NO WHERE in the BIBLE does He give a list of specific words we can and can not use....that was all. WE have corrupted EVERY word we have ever used. So we are told to ignore what the world says is right, and although I'm not going to go around cussing to make a point, this is still the truth. I've learned in my 37 yrs on this planet -that usually if the masses lives by it- it's wrong. All I am saying. Thanks for responding Brother. BWell.

There is a law written on our hearts knowing what is good and bad. This is moral law. The Gentiles by nature were a law unto themselves because of this. They had a moral code. They just KNEW certain things were wrong, like stealing, murdering, raping, hating, kicking defensless puppies, cutting brake lines, and dressing up and visiting your neighbor in a clown outfit when you know it could send them into a state of anaphylactic shock, etc. For the Law is summed as this. Love your neighbor as yourself. For love fulfills the Law. In other words, common sennse and your conscience should tell you what would get you into trouble or not. Using good words that are the farthest side of the spectrum from bad words that the world uses should be your goal.

 

[Jason0047]

I agree and well put. But I do not talk that way or use those words when speaking to others. I know those words are offensive...to that individual. But the entire point of the thread was to show we ALL live and act by man made doctrine sometimes. TECHNICALLY, AREN'T WE SUPPOSE TO FOLLOW CHRIST AND HIS TEACHINGS? Yes?, and so NO WHERE in the BIBLE does He give a list of specific words we can and can not use....that was all. WE have corrupted EVERY word we have ever used. So we are told to ignore what the world says is right, and although I'm not going to go around cussing to make a point, this is still the truth. I've learned in my 37 yrs on this planet -that usually if the masses lives by it- it's wrong. All I am saying. Thanks for responding Brother. BWell.

I hope what I said helps. Paul says he was all things to all people. Meaning he spoke and acted the best way he knew to be accepted by various different groups and peoples. In Romans chapter 7, Paul recounts his experience as a Law abiding Jew before he came to Christ so as to reach His Law abiding Jewish brothers. He speaks their language so as to gain them for the cause of Christ.

As for most people following man made doctrines: This would be true. Most do in fact do that. But believers who are in Christ Jesus walk after the leading of the Spirit. They are guided into all truth by the Spirit. This is a small few and not a large few because Jesus said narrow is the way that leads unto life, and few be there that find it.

 

[Reborn]

I hope what I said helps. Paul says he was all things to all people. Meaning he spoke and acted the best way he knew to be accepted by various different groups and peoples. In Romans chapter 7, Paul recounts his experience as a Law abiding Jew before he came to Christ so as to reach His Law abiding Jewish brothers. He speaks their language so as to gain them for the cause of Christ.

As for most people following man made doctrines: This would be true. Most do in fact do that. But believers who are in Christ Jesus walk after the leading of the Spirit. They are guided into all truth by the Spirit. This is a small few and not a large few because Jesus said narrow is the way that leads unto life, and few be there that find it.

Yes..but you fail to see that the reason your think we should talk a certain way (leaving out any bad words) is because you've been taught BY man, that these words are indeed "bad". You say we should talk a certain way being Christians--I agree--but I also say it was MAN who made any and all of those words awful in the first place. Yes, they are AWFUL now, I get this.....but there's a reason the Lord probably never gave a no-no list...that's because to Him, they were words...just words to mankind. Our heart speaks and yells filthier things, and that is what he judges. Thanks man, don't know how many more times I can debate this, or say the exact same thing in different words. I appreciate your concern-but we are just going to have to agree to disagree on this one.

 

[Angela53510]

I can't really share the bad words I used before I became a Christian. But I was extremely convicted of my vocabulary, and it did take a few years to learn not to use them. Fortunately, the Holy Spirit did help me with that.

And I do agree that there are cultural differences in swearing. In English Canada, dirty sexual words are considered the most vile, whereas in Quebec, the French words to do with the Catholic Church are used in swearing.

I think we need to be sensitive to our culture, and always take the high road where language is concerned. We should not use cursing to impress others, to scare others or to get our way. Neither as a bad habit, nor for attention. Do the words matter? Of course they do! But even more, our motive, and our example to others also are important!

 

[ELECT]

Yes..but you fail to see that the reason your think we should talk a certain way (leaving out any bad words) is because you've been taught BY man, that these words are indeed "bad". You say we should talk a certain way being Christians--I agree--but I also say it was MAN who made any and all of those words awful in the first place. Yes, they are AWFUL now, I get this.....but there's a reason the Lord probably never gave a no-no list...that's because to Him, they were words...just words to mankind. Our heart speaks and yells filthier things, and that is what he judges. Thanks man, don't know how many more times I can debate this, or say the exact same thing in different words. I appreciate your concern-but we are just going to have to agree to disagree on this one.

God makes words the devil makes words

God gave the alphabet

God has made man upright but their inventions HE hates

evil thought words etc are not new they were from the beginning

 

[Atwood]

πᾶς λόγος σαπρὸς ἐκ τοῦ στόματος ὑμῶν μὴ ἐκπορευέσθω,

λόγος = word, speech
σαπρὸς = rotten, corrupt


29 "Let no corrupt speech proceed out of your mouth, but such as is good for edifying as the need may be, that it may give grace to them that hear. 30 And grieve not the Holy Spirit of God, in whom ye were sealed unto the day of redemption. 31 Let all bitterness, and wrath, and anger, and clamor, and railing, be put away from you, with all malice"

There you have it above: if you want to know how to cause mental pain to the Holy Spirit, study the above.
(Eph 4)

Then there is the issue of insulting persons, blaspheming Christians. It is not advisable to call someone, "Fool," unless you wish to give evidence that you are headed for the Lake of Fire.

 

[acesneverwin]

I get that you can't please everyone in the universe. If saying "Golly" is offenseive to someone, of which I never heard of by the way here in the States, then don't say it around that person or come up with a better clean word to say when you vent if you are hit by flying metal pole to the head. The point I am trying to get at is that ..... speak with the best of your knowledge to that culture that you know to be good. IF..... IF.... you speak words that are bad knowing they KNOW it is bad, then it is not good because we are not here to offend and hurt people and make them feel sick to their stomach by our words, but we are here to lead them to Jesus Christ in loving and good words. If we slip up. God will understand. But..... if we choose to say bad words by the world's standards that are bad (When we KNOW they are bad - It is absolutely positively unacceptable).

I agree you should watch it around peeps who are offended... But what about when no one cares and do not hold any word to be wrong? You aren't offending anyone. And what the world finds offensive changes with time anyway. When I was little, "sucks" was a bad word... even youth pastors use that word today.

And no one KNOWS any word is bad. Their parents told them it was bad and that was the end of it... no one ever questions why certain words are bad and others are not. I highly doubt anyone becomes sick to their stomach over a certain word said and if they do, they need to sort out their priorities because there are a lot other stuff out there to stress out over.

I do agree we should people to Christ in a loving way with positive words... and one of the most positive people in my life swears like a sailor. He ACTS more like a Christian than a lot of other Christians do. Totally non judgmental, positive, and really helped me out of a bad place, made me feel good. His vocabulary just happens to be peppered with strong language but it's just the way he talks. Doesn't even think twice about it.

When I first met him years and years ago, it bothered me a bit because I had the idea that Christians do not swear and if they do, maybe they're not Christian (even though I did myself but you don't know people like you know yourself so you make quick judgments). Then I realized I was judging this dude based on certain words he said and not on his actions or how he treated people. Words that were harmless... he wasn't being vulgar or talking dirty... just sayin something about how ------' big the wheels on that truck are. Just commenting on how gigantic it's wheels were. What's really to be offended about that?

On the other hand there's the self proclaimed Christian dude at work walking around preachin Jesus and never uttered a curse word but he was one of the most judgmental and hypocritical people I know. When I was having a problem, you know who I went to for help? It wasn't the armband Christian dude. It was the one who acted more loving and accepting... so his language is quite peppered... big deal. Actions speak louder than words and words are just that... words. They have no power aside from what we give them.

I dunno, I'm not gonna judge someone based on how they talk. I'll base it off what they're actually saying and how they behave and treat other people.