THE CALLING OUT OF THE BRIDE, to go to The Wedding of the Lamb

[VCO]

The Holy spirit does not go against the scripture, but you on the other invent a story that is far from biblical truth.[/B]


I read them alright, and most of it are fictional story.


Which denomination you think holds the truth?



Have you ever considered that:
even if the trumpet were sounded the people did not Repent:

Rev_9:20 The rest of the people who survived these plagues did not repent from their evil actions or stop worshiping demons and idols made of gold, silver, bronze, stone, and wood, which cannot see, hear, or walk.
Rev_9:21 They did not repent from their murders, their witchcraft, their sexual immorality, or their thefts.
Seems to me the tapes are not working:

and even if at the pouring of the vials of wrath the people did not REPENT: and on the contrary they cursed God even more.

Rev_16:9 and they were burned by the fierce heat. They cursed the name of God, who has the authority over these plagues. They did not repent and give him glory.
Rev_16:11 and cursed the God of heaven because of their pain-filled sores. But they did not repent of their behaviour

At this stage your tapes are probably burned to ashes..its not working...

and furthermore even there's worldwide coverage of the two witnesses...
They did not believe...

Rev 11:10 And they that dwell upon the earth shall rejoice over them, and make merry, and shall send gifts one to another; because these two prophets tormented them that dwelt on the earth. Rev 11:11 And after three days and an half the Spirit of life from God entered into them, and they stood upon their feet; and great fear fell upon them which saw them.. (KJV)





The verses are indeed promises of God and it will come to pass, but that does not make your story true...


your statement is just a story without biblical support...



What are clear from that verses:
1. The dead in Christ will rise FIRST
2. meaning it occurs at the Resurrection of the dead in Christ.
3. Those ALIVE AND REMAIN...shall be caught up after the Resurrection (for how long between Resurrection and the catching up is not clear)
4, 1 Cor 15:51-52 provided a glimpse that the Resurrection will be accompanied by the Changing of the bodies of those who are alive. meaning...those two witnesses bodies (if literal) were not yet changed because they were killed by the Beast... meaning this event does not occur before the two witnesses death.



On the contrary...the more we need to watch for we do not know if we are still alive tomorrow...

I think my theology stands on solid ground...Yours is shaky

Believe what you want, I am not hear to make you beliece, when We are called out to meet the Bridegroom in the air, to go to the Wedding of the Lamb, everyone will know, who told them the TRUTH. Most of Mainline Christianity teaches pretty much the same thing. GOD HATES DENOMINATIONAL BIGOTRY, and so do I.

Which modern day Bible Teachers have had the Most influence on me, forming the firm foundation of my Doctrinal Beliefs:



Dr. John MacArthur, Jr. - Grace to You sermons dating back to the early 70s - free to listen to.
Dr. Adrian Rogers - Listen to Adrian Rogers - Love Worth Finding Radio Online
Dr. Charles Stanley - In Touch Ministries > Home
Dr. Richard Lee - http://www.firstredeemer.org/
Dr. Zola Levitt - ZLM Video: “Passover/Unleavened Bread” - some free - videos
Dr. Ed Young - http://www.winningwalk.org/t-bio.aspx
Dr. Gil Rugh - http://www.ihcc.org/ - free sermons dating back to the late 70s - free
Dr. Chuck Swindoll - Listen to Chuck Swindoll - Insight for Living Radio Online
Dr. Walter Martin - https://www.blueletterbible.org/audio_video/martin_walter/
Dr. Ben Haden - Why

As well as the Pastors of Churches that I attended; Pastor Neil Berry and Pastor Gordan Broadbent especially.

 

[PlainWord]

The authors that have had the most impact on my faith and doctrine are as follows:

The Apostle John
The Apostle Matthew
The Apostle Paul
The Apostle Mark
The Apostle Luke
The Prophet Daniel
The Prophet Ezekiel
The Prophet Zechariah
The Prophet Isaiah
The Prophet Jeremiah

I don't put a lot of stake in human authors when they attempt to alter the Word or misinterpret clear doctrines.

 

[JesusIsAll]

Believe what you want, I am not hear to make you beliece, when We are called out to meet the Bridegroom in the air, to go to the Wedding of the Lamb, everyone will know, who told them the TRUTH. Most of Mainline Christianity teaches pretty much the same thing. GOD HATES DENOMINATIONAL BIGOTRY, and so do I.

Which modern day Bible Teachers have had the Most influence on me, forming the firm foundation of my Doctrinal Beliefs:



Dr. John MacArthur, Jr. - Grace to You sermons dating back to the early 70s - free to listen to.
Dr. Adrian Rogers - Listen to Adrian Rogers - Love Worth Finding Radio Online
Dr. Charles Stanley - In Touch Ministries > Home
Dr. Richard Lee - First Redeemer Church | Duluth | Cumming | Alpharetta
Dr. Zola Levitt - ZLM Video: “Passover/Unleavened Bread” - some free - videos
Dr. Ed Young - http://www.winningwalk.org/t-bio.aspx
Dr. Gil Rugh - http://www.ihcc.org/ - free sermons dating back to the late 70s - free
Dr. Chuck Swindoll - Listen to Chuck Swindoll - Insight for Living Radio Online
Dr. Walter Martin - https://www.blueletterbible.org/audio_video/martin_walter/
Dr. Ben Haden - Why

As well as the Pastors of Churches that I attended; Pastor Neil Berry and Pastor Gordan Broadbent especially.

So, what are you saying? I know, I know. You can add a lot of doctorates of Systematic Theology to that list. But would you have us believe we should listen to these, as opposed to anonymous user GodSnark on a web forum?

 

[JesusIsAll]

My 'puter done went 'n double posted... ignore this, sorry...

 

[VCO]

. . .
Have you ever considered that:
even if the trumpet were sounded the people did not Repent:
. . .

I think my theology stands on solid ground...Yours is shaky

SO WHAT DENOMINATION AND BIBLE TEACHERS ARE YOU GETTING YOUR THEOLOGY FROM?


I have studied Dr. John MacArthur's 36 hour sermon series going verse by verse through the book of Revelation, 4 separate times on every single sermon.

I have also studied Dr. John MacArthur's verse by verse sermon Series, four different times on every single sermon.

I have heard NUMEROUS Messages from Dr. Zola Levitt on WHO the Bride of Christ is and the Wedding Traditions that EVERY JEWISH BRIDEGROOM FOLLOWS.

I have heard in Church Sermons by three different Pastors in three different Churches teaching End Time Prophecies for several sermons in a row.

AND I HAVE DONE MY OWN PERSONAL STUDY OF THE SUBJECT WITH THE HOLY SPIRIT'S GUIDANCE, and after VERY THOROUGH Studying, I find I am in total agreement with what I was taught.

AND NOT ONE OF THE PASTORS OR THEOLOGIANS is in disagreement with the others.


SO I REALLY WANT TO KNOW WHERE YOUR THEOLOGY COMES FROM.

 

[VCO]

My 'puter done went 'n double posted... ignore this, sorry...

I happened to me too, but I caught it within the INSUFFICIENT five minute rule, by accident, and was able to delete one of them.

 

[JesusIsAll]

I happened to me too, but I caught it within the INSUFFICIENT five minute rule, by accident, and was able to delete one of them.

I got this thing where the post wasn't accepted by any indication, just a popup to stay on or leave the page, like a cancellation, but it did post a couple of those Submits! Of course, I did nothing wrong, moi? LOL!

 

[VCO]

So, what are you saying? I know, I know. You can add a lot of doctorates of Systematic Theology to that list. But would you have us believe we should listen to these, as opposed to anonymous user GodSnark on a web forum?

YES, I can HIGHLY recommend both MacArthur's verse by verse sermon Series on Revelation and the Book of Daniel. Here are the links:

Revelation = Grace to You

Daniel = Grace to You


Dr. Zola Levitt's Study of the Seven Feasts of Israel is EXTREMELY INFORMATIVE TOO. It shows how Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of all Seven Feasts, and within the lecture on the Passover, is the information on Who the Bride is, and the Jewish Wedding Traditions and how they relate to Jesus Christ:

ZLM Video: “Passover/Unleavened Bread”

 

[JesusIsAll]

YES, I can HIGHLY recommend both MacArthur's verse by verse sermon Series on Revelation and the Book of Daniel. Here are the links:

Revelation = Grace to You

Daniel = Grace to You


Dr. Zola Levitt's Study of the Seven Feasts of Israel is EXTREMELY INFORMATIVE TOO. It shows how Jesus Christ is the fulfillment of all Seven Feasts, and within the lecture on the Passover, is the information on Who the Bride is, and the Jewish Wedding Traditions and how they relate to Jesus Christ:

ZLM Video: “Passover/Unleavened Bread”

Dun seen dem MacArthur learnins' 'n know'd dem feasts, jus don et 'em...

 

[VCO]

I got this thing where the post wasn't accepted by any indication, just a popup to stay on or leave the page, like a cancellation, but it did post a couple of those Submits! Of course, I did nothing wrong, moi? LOL!

I actually spend more of the INSUFFICIENT 5 minute EDITING TIME, correcting the errors that their upload program made; such as deleted spaces between words, and deleted blank lines between quoted verses and my comments. It can get very frustrating when it takes the whole 5 minutes to correct those, and then you find a couple typos that you over looked.

This is about the 5th different site that I have tried for discussing the Bible, and they give us far, far less editing time then any other site. Most were 1 or 2 hours, and one gave us 36 hours to edit our posts.

 

[JesusIsAll]

Revelation and Daniel aside, I still want to know which Ezekiel weapon (Hebrew word) has an internal combustion engine.

 

[JesusIsAll]

I actually spend more of the INSUFFICIENT 5 minute EDITING TIME, correcting the errors that their upload program made; such as deleted spaces between words, and deleted blank lines between quoted verses and my comments. It can get very frustrating when it takes the whole 5 minutes to correct those, and then you find a couple typos that you over looked.

This is about the 5th different site that I have tried for discussing the Bible, and they give us far, far less editing time then any other site. Most were 1 or 2 hours, and one gave us 36 hours to edit our posts.

For an elaborate post, are you using Go Advanced and doing a Preview Post? I've not found the post different from a Preview, yet.

 

[JesusIsAll]

By the way, regarding the Ezekiel war, I just posted a thread, the upshot is that people are talking tribulation-centric timing of that war all over the world, writing books out the wazoo. None of it fits, if you were to ask me. You probably wouldn't, but if you did ask...

 

[VCO]

Dun seen dem MacArthur learnins' 'n know'd dem feasts, jus don et 'em...

Sounds like you all been sipping those corn squeezens, again.

Those messages make perfect sense to me, but then again, I grew up spiritually on them as they were my spiritual milk.

After I was born again following my third attempt at suicide in 1977, that first message in the Revelation Series "A Jet Tour Through Revelation"; was the very first sermon my brand new born again spirit heard. Later I bought the Series on Cassette Tape and went through them Three more times, with a headset on my Walkman, while I sorted mail on the night shift. I then did the same with his series on Daniel.

Zola Levitt, I discovered in the mid 80s, and WHAT A BLESSING. To be honest with you, I would not mind spending a couple years or more in a Messianic Congregation. I think there is a lot more to learn from practicing the Seven Feasts of Isreal.

 

[JesusIsAll]

Sounds like you all been sipping those corn squeezens, again.

Those messages make perfect sense to me, but then again, I grew up spiritually on them as they were my spiritual milk.

As to the squeezens, nope, just a lunatic. John MacArthur is very good. There are a number, Jack Van Impe does a good Bible harmony of Revelation in his "Revelation Revealed." Ed Hindson is wonderful. In the end, I've found that what I've concluded has been from a number of sources, as, regarding complex eschatology, there are some who find truths others miss. The total knowledge I'm happy with is not from any one or two men, but a composite, to include that some of the "greats" I sincerely believe have some points quite wrong, suffer Bible contradictions. The most scholarly treatise I'd ever seen on Revelation was in a book by a Mennonite theologian, a total, lifelong dissection, deeper than most go.

 

[psalm6819]

I like to think that the 2 witnesses are Elijah & Enoch, though I really can't prove it. I think that at the Rapture there might be a moment of death when the body is glorified. Of course then we have to ask about Lazarus and others Christ raised during His ministry, & those who rose at the time Christ was crucified & rose from the dead -- I think of these as resuscitated, not resurrected to a glorified body. It looks like some died twice.

Probably Heb 9 is a general statement.

I think they will be Moses and Elijah, as Moses had called plagues on Eygpt, Elijah called down fire (for his sacrifice), closed the heavens (no rain), so they pararell those in Revelation, additionally both Moses and Elijah's minstries were incomplete.

 

[VCO]

By the way, regarding the Ezekiel war, I just posted a thread, the upshot is that people are talking tribulation-centric timing of that war all over the world, writing books out the wazoo. None of it fits, if you were to ask me. You probably wouldn't, but if you did ask...

Matthew 16:2-3 (ESV)
[SUP]2 [/SUP] He answered them, “When it is evening, you say, ‘It will be fair weather, for the sky is red.’
[SUP]3 [/SUP]And in the morning, ‘It will be stormy today, for the sky is red and threatening.’ You know how to interpret the appearance of the sky, but you cannot interpret the signs of the times.


As I pointed out in one of my other posts, the Bible is so full figurative language, that it must have been the most popular way of explaining anything in that day and age. Granted it is FAR LESS popular now, and if you started a conversion now using a lot of it, I am quite sure that you would get some very strange looks.

For example, if I was to say:

"Some of the decisions coming out of the Whitehouse are dumber than playing possum in the middle of the road. That Dog just can't hunt." Which to me, because of my rural Nebraska upbringing, would make perfect sense. HOWEVER, I know in this age, the vast majority would think I lost my mind and am talking jibberish, while a few would want to file a law suite against me, and even fewer, would understand it, even though they would think I am very strange for saying it.

With the reality being that in the days of the prophets, disciples, and parables, MOST were used to talking that way. Granted the Lord said some of those writings were closed to understanding until the end-times, therefore since I believe we are rapidly approaching the final Seven years before our LORD comes back as KING of Kings and LORD of Lords; many, many more people, because of their knowledge of modern technology, should now be able to understand verses that once were UNFATHOMABLE.

 

[VCO]

The authors that have had the most impact on my faith and doctrine are as follows:

The Apostle John
The Apostle Matthew
The Apostle Paul
The Apostle Mark
The Apostle Luke
The Prophet Daniel
The Prophet Ezekiel
The Prophet Zechariah
The Prophet Isaiah
The Prophet Jeremiah

I don't put a lot of stake in human authors when they attempt to alter the Word or misinterpret clear doctrines.

YOU TOO NEED TO TELL US WHICH DENOMINATION HAS INFLUENCED YOUR OPINIONS THE MOST. My background is mostly connected to Non-Denominational Conservative Evangelical type of Churches.

 

[JesusIsAll]

many, many more people, because of their knowledge of modern technology, should now be able to understand verses that once were UNFATHOMABLE.

So, when are we on CC going to get around to FATHOMABLING, then? Can't get anybody to plausibly FATHOMABLE a little Gog. Is that asking too much? You can only do so much with baptism and shower caps, which was at least a switch-up from whether faith without works threads is dead.

 

[PlainWord]

YOU TOO NEED TO TELL US WHICH DENOMINATION HAS INFLUENCED YOUR OPINIONS THE MOST. My background is mostly connected to Non-Denominational Conservative Evangelical type of Churches.

My back ground is essentially the same. My dad was an Independent Fundamentalist preacher for the first 18 years of my life. He started a church and belonged to the IFCA. He was all in for the Rapture theory. Fortunately for me, my older brother told me when I was about 15 that he studied the Bible and could not find proof of the Rapture as presented. I didn't think much of it until later in life.

I was probably 30-35 when I really got into studying for my own. I read everything. I started having my rapture doubts and starting thinking maybe by brother was right. I took the matter to the Lord in prayer. I asked Him to show me the truth. BAM. It was like getting hit with a 2X4. The truth is exactly what is clearly stated. All of it. Christ comes AFTER the Tribulation just as He says. He only comes once. When He comes, He comes to stay.

I'm sorry you don't see the truth yet my dear friend. Maybe it will matter, maybe it won't. But I've been on a mission for awhile now trying to convince Christians that the "Rapture" is not before the Tribulation. The church will be absolutely decimated during the Great Trib just as Jesus teaches. There will be a HUGE falling away and many are deceived.