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I married Him quite some time back. He is the Lord God almighty, Jesus my Groom.
Could you then please provide a date for the reception and marriage supper, so the rest of us can better plan accordingly?
I married Him quite some time back. He is the Lord God almighty, Jesus my Groom.
The marriage supper of the lamb takes place during the trib. While people on Earth are fighting for their lives, we are having a party. Then after the party we go to war, with The king of Kings leading the charge.
Could you then please provide a date for the reception and marriage supper, so the rest of us can better plan accordingly?
Adrian Rogers once said it won't be much of a battle, though, that he could see it consisting of two words from the Lord, "Drop dead!"
More like a massacre than a battle. But what people don't realize and where the confusion comes in is that people will be saved during the trib and most will be killed but not all and that's why people get confused with the Second coming with the rapture.
I meant just think how many will give their hearts to Christ after the rapture and say Oh my God they were right.
The tribulation will be a great revival, somebody once saying "144,000 apostle Pauls on the loose," and, no doubt, things scoffed at now will suddenly become very real and present. One problem we have now is nobody really has to deal with God, at least that they can see, and an unfortunate truth that people only call on God when there's nothing left to turn to, don't need Him when times are good.
All you have to do is say I DO and receive Him into your bridechamber and bring forth Christ in you
I married Him quite some time back. He is the Lord God almighty, Jesus my Groom.
Everyone is SUPPOSED to marry Him, my my, what might anyone be waiting for?!
(Eph 5:31)
For this cause shall a man leave his father and mother, and shall be joined unto his wife, and they two shall be one flesh.
(Eph 5:32)
This is a great mystery: but I speak concerning Christ and the church.
(Eph 2:15)
Having abolished in his flesh the enmity, even the law of commandments contained in ordinances; for to make in himself of twain one new man, so making peace;
(Rom 7:4)...
be married ... to him who is raised from the dead, that we should bring forth fruit unto God.
Only then Can we Bring Forth the New Man child from within us as His Bride. That is His Coming.
(Joh 16:19)
Now Jesus knew that they were desirous to ask him, and said unto them, Do ye enquire among yourselves of that I said, A little while, and ye shall not see me: and again, a little while, and ye shall see me?
(Joh 16:20)
Verily, verily, I say unto you, That ye shall weep and lament, but the world shall rejoice: and ye shall be sorrowful, but your sorrow shall be turned into joy.
(Joh 16:21)
A woman when she is in travail hath sorrow, because her hour is come: but as soon as she is delivered of the child, she remembereth no more the anguish, for joy that a man is born into the world.
(Joh 16:22)
And ye now therefore have sorrow: but I will see you again, and your heart shall rejoice, and your joy no man taketh from you.
(Rev 22:17)
And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.
(Gal 4:26)
But Jerusalem which is above is free, which is the mother of us all.
The marriage supper of the lamb takes place during the trib. While people on Earth are fighting for their lives, we are having a party. Then after the party we go to war, with The king of Kings leading the charge.
the actual wedding will be in the very end of rev.
1And I saw a new heaven and a new earth: for the first heaven and the first earth were passed away;
and there was no more sea.
2And I John saw the holy city, new Jerusalem, coming down from God out of heaven,
prepared as a bride adorned for her husband.
3And I heard a great voice out of heaven saying,
Behold, the tabernacle of God is with men,
and he will dwell with them, and they shall be his people,
and God himself shall be with them, and be their God.
7He that overcometh shall inherit all things; and I will be his God, and he shall be my son.
It will be an underground revival as the Church has been taken and the Holy Spirit will not be in full power as God allows the Antichrist to rule. Those who get saved will be killed and most by beheading it will be the worst time ever to be a christian. But those killed will receive glorified bodies just like we will. So still better to be saved than to give up, many a christian has been killed in times past and even now. Muslims are killing Christians as fast as they can and by beheading.
It does not tell us who they are verbatim, but I think there is a VERY STRONG HINT:
Hebrews 9:27 (NASB)
[SUP]27 [/SUP] And inasmuch as it is appointed for men to die once and after this comes judgment,
And the only exception to that Rule that I find is this:
1 Thessalonians 4:16-18 (HCSB)
[SUP]16 [/SUP] For the Lord Himself will descend from heaven with a shout, with the archangel’s voice, and with the trumpet of God, and the dead in Christ will rise first.
[SUP]17 [/SUP] Then we who are still alive will be caught up together with them in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and so we will always be with the Lord.
[SUP]18 [/SUP] Therefore encourage one another with these words.
ENOCH and ELIJAH did NOT die, HOWEVER:
1 Corinthians 15:50 (NIV)
[SUP]50 [/SUP] I declare to you, brothers, that flesh and blood cannot inherit the kingdom of God, nor does the perishable inherit the imperishable.
So we know GOD did not take them to Heaven, but where did he send them then?
GOD is Omnipresent Not only in ever cubic inch that exists, but ALSO in every second of TIME as we know it at the same time. That is why HE is called the I AM. HE is not a created being traveling through time like we do, HE IS LITERALLY THE CREATOR OF TIME as we know it. HE declares the End from the Beginning because HE is the I AM simultaneously in all time. Don't put GOD in a box called TIME, HE does not fit there, because HE is thee ETERNAL BEING, GOD. Since we know NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE WITH GOD, is it not possible that GOD grabbed ENOCH and ELIJAH out of their time frame and put them in the End Times to Lead HIS CHOSEN NATION ISRAEL to believe in Yeshua as Messiah?
What would be the effect on Jews if those two returned and they they were miraculously recognized like on the Mount of Transfiguration, and they were doing miracles like the Prophets of Old to validate they were sent by GOD?
Would there not be a MASSIVE conversion in ISRAEL?
AND then the two witnesses are killed in the streets of Jerusalem by the Antichrist, keeping GOD's word 100% accurate, about GOD giving men once to die, EXCEPT those who are caught up to meet HIM in the air, when He calls out HIS BRIDE (True Believers of all time).
Acts 1:6-7 (HCSB)
[SUP]6 [/SUP] So when they had come together, they asked Him, “Lord, are You restoring the kingdom to Israel at this time?”
[SUP]7 [/SUP] He said to them, “It is not for you to know times or periods that the Father has set by His own authority.
GOD IS NOT FINISHED WITH ISRAEL, and the 70th WEEK of Daniel has not happened, YET.
READ Joel Chapter 2, about the END of the Tribulation WEEK of Years. You will see absolute proof that GOD is not finished with Israel, AND you will find that the Bride, the Church, IS IN THE NEW DWELLING PLACE IN HEAVEN, and leaves to come with the Bridegroom, CHRIST to set up HIS KINGDOM on Earth. These things were hidden until the time of the END. I believe we are rapidly approaching that DAY.
What is the age after the Church age?the Church is the Body of Christ, not the sum of all believers. The Church was still future in Mat 16 ("I will build My Church"). Abraham was not in the Church, nor Moses. In the Tribulation or Dan's 70th week in scripture, the Church is never mentioned. The witnesses are evidently saints of a different age, not the Church Age.
Enoch and elijah, why they need to die when the bible said clearly that therr will be people alive when He returns...
Remember " those who are ALIVE AND REMAIN".
You are using the passage in hebrew falsely. Plus there are people who had been dead then resurrected. Did they violate your "die once" teaching?
Another God never stop dealing with Israel.
Regarding the Gospel they were blinded in PART only.
Regarding Israel Nation, Read the book of ezekiel 36-37.
Regarding Israel and its enemies future eze 38-39
Regarding the future bride. I suggest you read Isaiah 62
YES, HE gives us an exception, and it clearly points out that those two did not die. However, the Calling Out of the Bride is what it is talking about, when He mentions those who are ALIVE AND REMAIN. That is YET another reason why that Prophecy has to happen Before the Seven Year Peace Treaty begins, that the Antichrist will make with Israel. The Two Witnesses appear on the scene sometime AFTER that Peace Treaty begins. Clearly that one week that Daniel is talking about is the 70th week of Daniel, and it is a week of years, set apart from the 69 weeks by the Church-age. The Calling Out of the Bride happens at the End of the Church-age, just prior to the beginning of the one week mentioned in Daniel 9:27.
Daniel 9:27 (HCSB)
[SUP]27 [/SUP]He will make a firm covenant with many for one week, but in the middle of the week he will put a stop to sacrifice and offering. And the abomination of desolation will be on a wing of the temple until the decreed destruction is poured out on the desolator.”
Thank you, that is yet another Biblical support for a pre-Tribulation Calling Out of the Bride of Christ, that I had never thought of before.
In your OP you believed that all believers are sum up of all the churches; The CHurch.
The two witnesses are believers either symbolic or figurative thus they are part of the Church.
Where they left behind? That part of the church?
That period of time after the Church-age is a Combination of the 70th week of years recorded in Daniel, and the Week of Years that was supposed to be a Peace Treaty with Israel, orchestrated by the Antichrist, which is also known as Tribulation. They run literally simultaneously for that Seven Year period which is the final age of man ruling the Earth. Then COMES the Second Coming of Christ, when He sets up His 1000 Year Kingdom and rules from David's Throne
The Two witnesses come to fulfill God's Promises to ISRAEL, in the 70th Week of Daniel. Those who did not receive Jesus Christ by submitting to His LORDSHIP, prior to the End of the Church-age, will have to become Martyred Saints, during the Tribulation. THUS even Jews who turn to believe in Jesus as the Messiah after the Rapture of the Church, who are not part of the 144,000 mortal Jews sealed from harm by GOD; will become martyred Tribulation Saints.
Revelation 6:9-11 (HCSB)
[SUP]9 [/SUP] When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the people slaughtered because of God’s word and the testimony they had.
[SUP]10 [/SUP] They cried out with a loud voice: “Lord, the One who is holy and true, how long until You judge and avenge our blood from those who live on the earth?”
[SUP]11 [/SUP] So a white robe was given to each of them, and they were told to rest a little while longer until ⌊the number⌋ would be completed ⌊of⌋ their fellow slaves and their brothers, who were going to be killed just as they had been.
Revelation 7:13-15 (NIV)
[SUP]13 [/SUP] Then one of the elders asked me, "These in white robes--who are they, and where did they come from?"
[SUP]14 [/SUP] I answered, "Sir, you know." And he said, "These are they who have come out of the great tribulation; they have washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb.
[SUP]15 [/SUP] Therefore, "they are before the throne of God and serve him day and night in his temple; and he who sits on the throne will spread his tent over them.
Revelation 20:4 (NASB)
[SUP]4 [/SUP] Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them {Church-age Saints}. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded {Tribulation Saints} because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they {both groups} came to life {The Church-age Saints before Tribulation and the Tribulation Saints AFTER Tribulation.} and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.
NOW, before you get confused, and ask about Old Testament Saints, the BRIDE of CHRIST is made up of Old Testament Saints, Church-age Saints, and Tribulation Saints. ALL three groups were Sanctified by the Blood of Lamb, Jesus Christ.
Old Testament Saints believed the Messiah would come and save them from their Sins.
Church-age and Tribulation Saints believe Messiah did come and saved us by the shedding of His Blood.
Thus the Bride of Christ is made up of all three groups. Thinking that the Church is the only group that is the Bride of Christ, leads to all kinds of Confusion about Prophecy. I have a Surprise for you, the word CHURCH is NOT in the original language manuscripts. The word actually used was the "Assembly" of the Lord; the same thing He called the Old Testament Saints. Look at this verse in Young's Literal Translation:
Ephesians 5:23 (YLT)
[SUP]23 [/SUP] because the husband is head of the wife, as also the Christ is head of the assembly, and He is saviour of the body,
Matthew 16:18 (YLT)
[SUP]18 [/SUP] `And I also say to thee, that thou art a rock, and upon this rock I will build my assembly, and gates of Hades shall not prevail against it;
In your OP you believed that all believers are sum up of all the churches; The CHurch.
The two witnesses are believers either symbolic or figurative thus they are part of the Church.
Where they left behind? That part of the church?
Based on Daniel's vision there are four stages prior to God' Kingdom:
1 beast, 2nd beast , 3rd beast then the fourth beast.
you see the Church will never end. As such it will stay forever.
" church age was introduced to support the pretrib doctrine.
i do not know how you consider the death of James, Stephen,Peter etc... Some were stoned to death, crucified and beheaded.they were martyred.
and even today who have attain righteousness by their works..none..this will be the same...
no one can attained righteousness in the future time by their works (being martyred)
this teaching of attaining righteousness during tribulation by becoming a martyr is to delegitimise and belittling the works of our Lord Christ on the cross.
you are mixing things up;
please see note that in rev 6 those who were given the robe were told to wait for their "fellow" brothers ( Israel?)
also rev 7 speaks that those who come out of great tribulation are before the throne and serve him? Did you notice where your church age saints?
i think you are the one who is confused about what is the bride.
Isaiah 62 and rev 21 talks about it as the New Jerusalem
Abraham looked for that heavenly city (heb11:16), the city of God rev 3:12.
read my blog about the bride.
REV. 4:4
twenty-four elders. Their joint rule with Christ, their white garments (19:7, 8), and their golden crowns (2:10) all seem to indicate that these twenty-four represent the redeemed (vv. 9-11; 5:5-14; 7:11-17; 11:16-18; 14:3; 19:4). The question is which redeemed? Not Israel, since the nation is not yet saved, glorified, and coronated. That is still to come at this point in the events of the end. Their resurrection and glory will come at the end of the seven-year Tribulation time (cf. Dan. 12:1-3). Tribulation saints aren’t yet saved (7:9, 10). Only one group will be complete and glorified at this point—the church. Here, elders represent the church, which sings the song of redemption (5:8-10). They are the overcomers who have their crowns and live in the place prepared for them, where they have gone with Jesus (cf. John 14:1-4).
The MacArthur Bible Commentary.