gotten really into reggae

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The_Wanderer said:
I used to know a former satanist (now saved) who told me that reggae was the name of a demon.
Food for thought.
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"Souls. That's what it's all about. I want to bring as many people as I possibly can to know Christ. God gave me a gift of music, but Christ called us to be 'fishers of men.' but with no line, no hook and no bait, you can't catch anything. My concerts draw many people who might never walk through church doors, and everyone gets the concert they come to hear. But at the end I am going to pray and ask them if they want to know Christ. That's what really matters. I am a fisher of men and music is my bait."
- Papa San

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posthuman said:
"Souls. That's what it's all about. I want to bring as many people as I possibly can to know Christ. God gave me a gift of music, but Christ called us to be 'fishers of men.' but with no line, no hook and no bait, you can't catch anything. My concerts draw many people who might never walk through church doors, and everyone gets the concert they come to hear. But at the end I am going to pray and ask them if they want to know Christ. That's what really matters. I am a fisher of men and music is my bait."
- Papa San


The Word of God is sufficient to save. Neither Christ nor the Apostles used a gimmick to draw people. That is worldliness.
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The_Wanderer said:
posthuman said:
"Souls. That's what it's all about. I want to bring as many people as I possibly can to know Christ. God gave me a gift of music, but Christ called us to be 'fishers of men.' but with no line, no hook and no bait, you can't catch anything. My concerts draw many people who might never walk through church doors, and everyone gets the concert they come to hear. But at the end I am going to pray and ask them if they want to know Christ. That's what really matters. I am a fisher of men and music is my bait."
- Papa San


The Word of God is sufficient to save. Neither Christ nor the Apostles used a gimmick to draw people. That is worldliness.
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I can see you're going to continue your self righteous, religious trolling that will only bring division and frustration. People like you have been around forever and i've yet to hear one of you make a truly valid, verifiable point. Only opinions, misquotes, scripture twisting, etc... good to know you need to be put on ignore within your first week of being here so i don't have to suffer your trolling any longer.
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The_Wanderer said:
The Word of God is sufficient to save. Neither Christ nor the Apostles used a gimmick to draw people. That is worldliness.
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David used his talent for music to glorify God. would you have Papa San bury his talent in the sand?
 
The_Wanderer said:
The Word of God is sufficient to save. Neither Christ nor the Apostles used a gimmick to draw people. That is worldliness.
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here is another point - both Christ and the apostles attracted multitudes by reason of the miracles they did and how they stood up rhetorically to the priests, scholars and philosophers of their day. their fame spread for these things, not just for their teaching.
so i could strongly argue that their oratory skills and miraculous acts served as a "gimmick" that drew people to hear their teaching in much the same way that a musician who plays and writes lyrics skillfully can draw in people who would not otherwise listen to the message that they have to give.
 
Ugly;1670724 I can see you're going to continue your self righteous said:
I merely contributed my perspective to this issue. I am neither "trolling", nor being "self-righteous". You on the other hand are pretty indignant and self-righteous in a way that reminds me how someone acts when a pet sin of theirs is even questioned. So sorry that you're "suffering" because I made a comment about what a former satanist advised me. Please do place me on ignore, since that's probably best for both of us.
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posthuman said:

here is another point - both Christ and the apostles attracted multitudes by reason of the miracles they did and how they stood up rhetorically to the priests, scholars and philosophers of their day. their fame spread for these things, not just for their teaching.
so i could strongly argue that their oratory skills and miraculous acts served as a "gimmick" that drew people to hear their teaching in much the same way that a musician who plays and writes lyrics skillfully can draw in people who would not otherwise listen to the message that they have to give.
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There's a good article I read somewhere and have been trying to locate. It's call "The Heritage of Music" and it was penned by David Bowler. If you can find it, please read through it and tell me what you think.
Not all music is created equal. Now, I know you may say that musical notes are as neutral as letters of the alphabet, but they're no longer neutral when arranged to form words. The same goes for musical notes.
You can take what I say or you can leave it. My job is done in having said my piece.
 
The_Wanderer said:
I merely contributed my perspective to this issue. I am neither "trolling", nor being "self-righteous". You on the other hand are pretty indignant and self-righteous in a way that reminds me how someone acts when it's mentioned that a pet sin of theirs is even questioned. So sorry that you're "suffering" because I made a comment about what a former satanist advised me. Please do place me on ignore, since that's probably best for both of us.
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ugly & i both care deeply about Christians who make music in genres that are offensive to some people, and we've both had many conversations about the issue - forgive him, and me, please, if we are less than kind..
i'm sure there are issues you tire of debating over too :)
heavy metal & other genres that carries a gospel message in the lyrics has been under vicious attack by interests both inside and outside the church for a long time, i think wrongly, and the people who are blessed through this music as a form of ministry are resentful over criticism, having long endured it.
 
The_Wanderer said:
There's a good article I read somewhere and have been trying to locate. It's call "The Heritage of Music" and it was penned by David Bowler. If you can find it, please read through it and tell me what you think.
Not all music is created equal. Now, I know you may say that musical notes are as neutral as letters of the alphabet, but they're no longer neutral when arranged to form words. The same goes for musical notes.
You can take what I say or you can leave it. My job is done in having said my piece.
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i'll look for the article. i think i may have already read it, but i'll look.

on the subject though, reggae as a genre, stripped of all lyrical connotation, is a joyful, comforting and free form of music, qualitatively.

do you agree that the message of the gospel is one of joy, consolation and freedom?
 
I do believe that the Word of God is sufficient, but let's not forget that God is not limited and can reach out to others in different forms, such as music. I'm not going to comment if reggae is bad or not because I do not know enough about it, but just wanted to throw that out there. :)
 
Before blues, then Rock, after Metal and now Reggae? Hahahaha ;)
The devil is takin' all the music!

I must return to listen to .........mmmmm.... what music do you think is sufficiently pure? LOL
 
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I didn't know there was that much Christian reggae out there. I must admit I'm not a fan of it though. I'm more of a metal/rock/industrial person. I've also gotten out of Christian music lately. It's almost too cheesy.
 
I dont think it is about not listening to BOB or TOSH.... I think if a song has the correct message listen. if a song doesnt dont listen to it...simple. Just because BOB is mislead in his doctrine does not mean that his heart is not for God and that his music is all garbage. All of us have some messy thoughts just like the differing denominations of Christianity.
 
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