It Is satanic Heresy to Deny Eternal Security

[Atwood]

Forget Not the Eternal Security of Romans 8: Golden Chain

THE UNBREAKABLE GOLDEN CHAIN OF ETERNAL SECURITY.

Or these could be called Golden Dominoes. Once the 1st domino plinks, the rest are inevitable & irrevocable.

And we know that to them that love God all things work together for good, even to them that are called according to his purpose.
For whom
he foreknew,
he also foreordained to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren: and whom
he foreordained, them
he also called: and whom he called, them
he also justified: and whom
he justified, them
he also glorified.

Glory, Hallelujah!

Sing it!

Hallelujah 'tis done,
I believe on the Son,
I am saved by the blood of the Crucified One!

Rejoice, rejoice, rejoice!

 

[roaringkitten]

[h=2]It Is satanic Heresy to Deny Eternal Security?[/h]
OSAS should really be ORAR-Once Righteous, Always Righteous. Because you need to be clothed with the Righteousness of Christ. This can only be accomplished by BLOOD. You can clearly see this concept in the beginning of Genesis. Adam and Eve tried to clothe themselves with fig leaves(Gen 3:7) which represents their own efforts to cover their disobedience. God Himself clothes them(Gen 3:21), which implies a death and blood sacrifice. We know that all this foreshadows the one and only sacrifice made by the Son of God, Jesus, who washed our sins in His own blood(Rev 1:5)

I have often observed the absence in talking about the blood, when people are discussing the topic labeled ''OSAS''. The issue isn't whether a person can be unborn once born again, but whether the blood of Christ is sufficient for salvation. The Bible makes it clear it is an issue of BLOOD sacrifice which determines eternal salvation.

Most of the controversy stems from misunderstanding Scripture and taking verses way out of context.

It is Satanic heresy to say the blood of the Lamb of God is not eternal enough to redeem the souls of man.

 

[Alligator]

Atwood owns this thread so Atwood posts the longest post and answers his own posts with even longer posts.....

He is totally out of control. I would like to see the moderators step in on this.

 

[RickyZ]

All ya gotta do is stop coming here. He only keeps going because you guys give him an audience.

 

[Alligator]

All ya gotta do is stop coming here. He only keeps going because you guys give him an audience.

He's not getting my more out of me.

 

[newbirth]

It Is satanic Heresy to Deny Eternal Security?

OSAS should really be ORAR-Once Righteous, Always Righteous. Because you need to be clothed with the Righteousness of Christ. This can only be accomplished by BLOOD. You can clearly see this concept in the beginning of Genesis. Adam and Eve tried to clothe themselves with fig leaves(Gen 3:7) which represents their own efforts to cover their disobedience. God Himself clothes them(Gen 3:21), which implies a death and blood sacrifice. We know that all this foreshadows the one and only sacrifice made by the Son of God, Jesus, who washed our sins in His own blood(Rev 1:5)

Whom God hath set forth to be a propitiation through faith in his blood, to declare his righteousness for the remission of sins that are past, through the forbearance of God;

I have often observed the absence in talking about the blood, when people are discussing the topic labeled ''OSAS''. The issue isn't whether a person can be unborn once born again, but whether the blood of Christ is sufficient for salvation. The Bible makes it clear it is an issue of BLOOD sacrifice which determines eternal salvation.

But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

Most of the controversy stems from misunderstanding Scripture and taking verses way out of context.

It is Satanic heresy to say the blood of the Lamb of God is not eternal enough to redeem the souls of man

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I see what you mean ..... the blood is eternal enough to redeem the souls of men but they must walk in the light like he is in the light...in order that the blood of Christ keep them clean....

So it must be OILAS...Once In Light Always Saved

 

[Atwood]

So it must be OILAS...Once In Light Always Saved

Give you OILAS in your lamp, keep you burning? Yes, you have to get the oil, before you can burn.

Did you misquote scripture, NewB, or is that the King Jimmy? At any rate, here it is in the ASV:

Rom. 3:23
"or all have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God; 24 being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25 whom God set forth to be a propitiation, through faith, in his blood, to show his righteousness because of the passing over of the sins done aforetime, in the forbearance of God; 26 for the showing, I say, of his righteousness at this present season: that he might himself be just, and the justifier of him that hath faith in Jesus. 27 Where then is the glorying? It is excluded. By what manner of law? of works? Nay: but by a law of faith. "

Rom. 3:23
for all have sinned, [past]

and fall short [present]

of the glory of God;

24 being justified [past, but once you get justified it is permanent. -- Those who have sinned in the past & continue to sin in the present (in many things we all stumble) are justified in the present (if you trusted Christ as Savior]

freely by his grace [free unmerited favor, not works allowed]

through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: [redemption is bought out & set free]

25 whom God set forth to be a propitiation, through faith, in his blood, to show his righteousness because of the passing over of the sins done aforetime, in the forbearance of God;

[This does not say that the propitiation covers only past sins; it is that His righteousness is shown because of passing over of sins done in past time]


26 for the showing, I say, of his righteousness at this present season:

"that he might himself be just, and the justifier of him that hath faith in Jesus. 27 Where then is the glorying? It is excluded. By what manner of law? of works? Nay: but by a law of faith."

You may ponderously ponder the above, but it says nothing about ONLY past sins being forgiven. Note that it is Christ's blood which makes possible forgiveness of sins; so if it only covered sins done up to the point of trusting HIm as Savior & getting the new birth, all must be damned. For everyone one sins after being regenerated.

But all sins are paid for by Christ's death which happened 2000 years before any reading this was born. And if Christ's death only covered past sins, why nobody's sins was covered after the was taken down off the cross. So that is nonsense.

Since Christians are given eternal life when they trust Him as Savior (not as chance-giver), all their sins must be forgiven -- otherwise the life they get could not be eternal.

So cease fire on trying to reason this way or that way to be damnation of everyone. Instead believe God's word.

I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish. If they shall never perish, then all their sins must be forgiven. And instead of focusing on sins being forgiven, take God at HIs word.

Thou shalt call His name Jesus, for He shall save His people from their sins. Give over your objections & doubts, & depend fully on the Savior. He gives an inheritance which is incorruptible, undefiled, guarded by the power of God. The gifts & the calling of God are irrevocable. He has promised to never blot the believer out of His Book of Life.

 

[Atwood]

The Bible is very clear on defining what salvation is. Salvation includes new birth & eternal life. You become a member of God's Family; you are incorporated into the Body of Christ. Eternal life is not temporary!

God so loved the world that He gave His only son that whosoever believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, & you shall be saved. Shall be saved -- not maybe if you do good works, not maybe if you don't sin.

Thou shalt call His name Jesus, for
He shall save His people from their sins.

I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish.

The evidence is abundant and clear. Once saved, saved.

He is not a mere chance-giver, but a Savior.

 

[newbirth]

Give you OILAS in your lamp, keep you burning? Yes, you have to get the oil, before you can burn.

Did you misquote scripture, NewB, or is that the King Jimmy? At any rate, here it is in the ASV:

Rom. 3:23
"or all have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God; 24 being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25 whom God set forth to be a propitiation, through faith, in his blood, to show his righteousness because of the passing over of the sins done aforetime, in the forbearance of God; 26 for the showing, I say, of his righteousness at this present season: that he might himself be just, and the justifier of him that hath faith in Jesus. 27 Where then is the glorying? It is excluded. By what manner of law? of works? Nay: but by a law of faith. "

See the red ponder on it then you would see the need to walk in the light....
But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

So it must be OILAS...Once In Light Always Saved

 

[Atwood]

Salvation is about a Savior Who saves sinners who get salvation, including new life & eternal life. Salvation is not about judgment, but deliverance from judgment. There is therefore now no condemnation to them who are in Christ Jesus period.

Two men went up into the temple to pray; the one a Pharisee, and the other a publican. 11 The Pharisee stood and prayed thus with himself, God, I thank thee, that I am not as the rest of men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even as this publican. 12 I fast twice in the week; I give tithes of all that I get. 13 But the publican, standing afar off, would not lift up so much as his eyes unto heaven, but smote his breast, saying, God, be merciful to me a sinner. 14 I say unto you, This man went down to his house justified rather than the other: for every one that exalteth himself shall be humbled; but he that humbleth himself shall be exalted.

For by grace you have been saved through faith, & that not of yourselves, not of works lest anyone should boast.

Now if you have been saved, why that means you have been saved; not given a chance at it.

Thou shalt call His name Jesus, for He shall save His people from their sins.

That implies forgiveness of sins.

Colossians 1:13-14 ESV

He has delivered us from the domain of darkness and transferred us to the kingdom of his beloved Son, in whom we have redemption, the forgiveness of sins.

If you are a "we," you have forgiveness.


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I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish.

Praise to the author & finisher of our faith!

Hallelujah 'tis done,
I believe on the Son,
I am saved by the blood of the crucified one.

 

[Atwood]

ROMANS 3:23 ETC.

Rom. 3:23
"or all have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God; 24being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25 whom God set forth to be apropitiation, through faith, in his blood, to show his righteousness because of the passing over of the sins done aforetime, in the forbearance of God; 26 for the showing, I say, of his righteousness at this present season: that he might himself be just, and the justifier of him that hath faith in Jesus. 27 Where then is the glorying? It is excluded.

Again, NewB, you commendably quote the Word of God.

Let's look at it, read it, and believe it in context.

But now apart from the law a righteousness of God hath been manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 22 even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ unto all them that believe;

Apart from the law: Righteousness is available apart from the law, apart from doing good works (obeying God's commands).

a righteousness of God
This righteousness is the gift of God which believers in Christ get by being connected to Christ (Romans 5).

for there is no distinction; 23 for all have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God; 24 being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25 whom God set forth to be a propitiation, through faith, in his blood, to show his righteousness because of the passing over of the sins done aforetime, in the forbearance of God; 26 for the showing, I say, of his righteousness at this present season: that he might himself be just, and the justifier of him that hath faith in Jesus. 27 Where then is the glorying? It is excluded. By what manner of law? of works? Nay: but by a law of faith. 28 We reckon therefore that a man is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.

even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ unto all them that believe;

The one way to get the righteousness of God is by trusting Christ as Savior.

Thus the question arises: Should an unregenerate man think he can work up a batch of obediences, good works and attain the declaration of righteousness that way?

for there is no distinction; 23 for all have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God;

All sinned going back to Adam, and all fall short (sin) in the present tense. We know that the wages of sin is death! Because of man's infection with sin, man is separated from God (spiritual death) and doomed to the Lake of Fire (2nd death). Sin pays a wage = death. Death means separation from God, being forsaken by God. However, Christ paid for our sins, suffered death for us on the cross (My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?)

24 being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

The unregenerate man does not attain a declaration of righteousness (justification) by his works, but by God's grace (unmerited favor). The declaration of righteousness (justification) come via the cross work of the Savior: He did redemption and propitiation on the cross. Redemption means He bought us out of bondage & set us free (as you would redeem something from the pawn shop).

25 whom God set forth to be a propitiation, through faith, in his blood, to show his righteousness because of the passing over of the sins done aforetime, in the forbearance of God;]/quote]

Propitiation was worked by Christ's blood, Christ's death on the cross. His suffering as our substitute satisfies the wrath of God and renders God favorably disposed towards those whom Christ represented on the cross (all men).

through faith
But the appropriate of the atonement for each man waits for that man to exercise faith, to trust the Savior. We are to trust Him as Savior, not "chance-giver."

to show his righteousness

God is righteous and just. How can God be righteous & just, yet fail to punish sin, fail to carry out His decree that the soul that sins, it shall die? sHe is shown to be righteous & just in that his wrath was exercised, the death did take place, but it took place in our substitute. God Himself became a man, and God's infinite being exhausted his great wrath within a few hours on the cross. Only God Himself could suffer enough to cover an eternity of the Lake of Fire on every sinner.

to show his righteousness because of the passing over of the sins done aforetime, in the forbearance of God; 26 for the showing, I say, of his righteousness at this present season:
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Two periods of time are delineated in the passage:
1) aforetime,
2) this present season.

Aforetime contrasts with "this present season." So what time period is meant in the term aforetime? It cont Does aforetime mean something different for every Christian? Does aforetime mean the time before the Christian was saved? If so, then it means a different time period for every Christian. And does "this present season" mean the time period after being saved, different for every Christian? I don't think so. It appears to me in context ("in His blood") refers to the cross. Thus the aforetime is before the cross, and the "this present season" is the time after the cross. Thus the "passing over of the sins done aforetime" would be sins done before the cross, which has nothing to do with Christians living in this present time.

But whatever the time periods are, the fact that God passed over sins done aforetime in His forebearance -- that fact does not imply anything about sins done in this present time. If God forgave sins in the past, that does not imply anything about future sins one way or the other. Moreover, the passage does not say "forgiveness," it says, "passing over."

So while you ponder the passage, it hardly negates the security of the believer.

26 for the showing, I say, of his righteousness at this present season: that he might himself be just, and the justifier of him that hath faith in Jesus.

The blood of Christ (His atonement on the cross) shows that God is righteous & just in declaring the believer righteous. If God declared a sinner righteous, that would violate justice & truth -- except that God paid for our sins, and connected the believer to Christ (who is righteous). As part of Christ's Body, it is correct that I am righteous -- for I have been made a part of Christ!

Note that the requirement to enter this blessed state is faith in the Lord Jesus. Nothing else is mentioned.

To anyone reading this who has been discounting the Savior to a "chance-giver":
Now do you trust Him? Will you trust Him with your destiny & cease deeming Him a mere "chance-giver"?

27 Where then is the glorying? It is excluded. By what manner of law? of works? Nay: but by a law of faith. 28 We reckon therefore that a man is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.

Indeed, trusting Christ does involve humility. One must take the role of the Publican, God be merciful to me a sinner. One has to give up the pride & boasting in one's pretended good works.

Justification is by faith.

Once you trust Him, you may know that His name is Jesus because
He shall save His people from their sins.

I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish.

 

[Hoffco]

To Atwood, You condemn Jesus as a "chance-giver", But then you say, the sinner must believe in Jesus to have the forgiveness that Jesus provided on the cross. You don't think straight. You are making Jesus the "chance-giver" by require ring Faith to be saved. Are you NOT? Doesn't Jesus give every one an "opportunity", "chance" to be saves, if they will, in your terms have "faith only". My terms, according to the Bible, are: REPENT, TRUST and OBEY. Love to all, Hoffco

 

[Hoffco]

Re: ROMANS 3:23 ETC.

I think we need to center upon what are the "works of the laws"? To me "the works of the law" are not the moral laws, so much, as the ordinances as sabbath keeping, circumcision and dietary laws, washings etc.. We know we can not be saved and disobey the moral laws of God. Rom.2:13 "...the doers of the law will be justified;" rom.3:31"...faith...establish the law." Real salvation establishes law keeping, being moral, godly person. Your TYPE of "faith only" establishes braking the law. But, LOVE is, the moral law keeping. IS IT NOT?

 

[phil36]

This can be easily answered?

Did the Father accomplish through the Son what he had already declared he would do?

of course this would then lead to other questions...

Does God have a definite eternal plan or just a mere wish? I mean will what God set out to do with full knowledge accomplish that same will. Or will it be pretty passive and dependant on some other criteria i.e. man.

I think if we read all of scripture we can see that if you are saved then you have the security of salvation in Christ in God's eternal plan.. Of course if you can lose it then what are you saying about God?

Paul answers the objections that eternal security will lead to lawlessness...but I leave you to red Paul for yourself.

Kind regards

Phil

 

[Hoffco]

Re: ROMANS 3:23 ETC.

The truth that keeps Jesus from being a mere "chance -giver", is the fact that God saves us, new birth and justification, by Grace alone. If you at not a Calvinist, then you make Jesus a mere "chance-giver". Love Hoffco

 

[Hoffco]

Re: ROMANS 3:23 ETC.

Phil36, You are absolutely RIGHT! But, Beware, most Calvinists don't think God gives ALL sinners the "CHANCE" to be saved, If they would REPENT, TRUST and OBEY. The Bible does.! Love Hoffco

 

[Hoffco]

Atwood, you are loop sided on Col.1:13-14 Forgiveness and not new birth, "deliverance". Get balance my brothers.! Love Hoffco

 

[Hoffco]

Re: ROMANS 3:23 ETC.

On the one hand , we are saved by faith; but , on the other hand we are saved, justified, by works. All based on the BLOOD of Jesus, but the BLOOD by itself saves no one, it must be APPLIDED by the Spirit. Don't teach HYPER Calvinism. Love Hoffco

 

[newbirth]

Re: ROMANS 3:23 ETC.

Again, NewB, you commendably quote the Word of God.

Let's look at it, read it, and believe it in context.

But now apart from the law a righteousness of God hath been manifested, being witnessed by the law and the prophets; 22 even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ unto all them that believe;
Apart from the law: Righteousness is available apart from the law, apart from doing good works (obeying God's commands).

a righteousness of God

the righteousness of God is through faith in Christ...faith without works is dead

This righteousness is the gift of God which believers in Christ get by being connected to Christ (Romans 5).

for there is no distinction; 23 for all have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God; 24 being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus: 25 whom God set forth to be a propitiation, through faith, in his blood, to show his righteousness because of the passing over of the sins done aforetime, in the forbearance of God; 26 for the showing, I say, of his righteousness at this present season: that he might himself be just, and the justifier of him that hath faith in Jesus. 27 Where then is the glorying? It is excluded. By what manner of law? of works? Nay: but by a law of faith. 28 We reckon therefore that a man is justified by faith apart from the works of the law.

a law of faith...faith without works is dead...We agree it is not by works of the law

even the righteousness of God through faith in Jesus Christ unto all them that believe;

The one way to get the righteousness of God is by trusting Christ as Savior.

Thus the question arises: Should an unregenerate man think he can work up a batch of obediences, good works and attain the declaration of righteousness that way?

it is through faith in Jesus Christ...we are saved by grace through faith...faith without works is dead

for there is no distinction; 23 for all have sinned, and fall short of the glory of God;

All sinned going back to Adam, and all fall short (sin) in the present tense. We know that the wages of sin is death! Because of man's infection with sin, man is separated from God (spiritual death) and doomed to the Lake of Fire (2nd death). Sin pays a wage = death. Death means separation from God, being forsaken by God. However, Christ paid for our sins, suffered death for us on the cross (My God, My God, why have you forsaken me?)

Christ was the sacrifice for our sins...Hebrews 10:18
Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
That is why we have to remain in his his goodness...

Romans 11:22

Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

24 being justified freely by his grace through the redemption that is in Christ Jesus:

The unregenerate man does not attain a declaration of righteousness (justification) by his works, but by God's grace (unmerited favor). The declaration of righteousness (justification) come via the cross work of the Savior: He did redemption and propitiation on the cross. Redemption means He bought us out of bondage & set us free (as you would redeem something from the pawn shop).

from the bondage of sin and death to righteousness and life
Romans 5:21
That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.
Romans 6:13
Neither yield ye your members as instruments of unrighteousness unto sin: but yield yourselves unto God, as those that are alive from the dead, and your members as instruments of righteousness unto God.

25 whom God set forth to be a propitiation, through faith, in his blood, to show his righteousness because of the passing over of the sins done aforetime, in the forbearance of God;]/quote]

Propitiation was worked by Christ's blood, Christ's death on the cross. His suffering as our substitute satisfies the wrath of God and renders God favorably disposed towards those whom Christ represented on the cross (all men).

through faith
But the appropriate of the atonement for each man waits for that man to exercise faith, to trust the Savior. We are to trust Him as Savior, not "chance-giver."

to show his righteousness

The trust you speak about sounds more like faith without works...you cannot exercise faith without works

God is righteous and just. How can God be righteous & just, yet fail to punish sin, fail to carry out His decree that the soul that sins, it shall die? sHe is shown to be righteous & just in that his wrath was exercised, the death did take place, but it took place in our substitute. God Himself became a man, and God's infinite being exhausted his great wrath within a few hours on the cross. Only God Himself could suffer enough to cover an eternity of the Lake of Fire on every sinner.

to show his righteousness because of the passing over of the sins done aforetime, in the forbearance of God; 26 for the showing, I say, of his righteousness at this present season:

not a substitute but a sin offering....
Hebrews 10:10
By the which will we are sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.
Hebrews 10:14
For by one offering he hath perfected for ever them that are sanctified.
(sanctify, literally means "to set apart" for special use or purpose, that is, to make holy or sacred.)
The scripture says we are created unto good works....

1 Corinthians 6:19-20
What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God's.


1 Corinthians 3:16-17
[SUP]16 [/SUP]Know ye not that ye are the temple of God, and that the Spirit of God dwelleth in you?
[SUP]17 [/SUP]If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are.

Two periods of time are delineated in the passage:
1) aforetime,
2) this present season.

Aforetime contrasts with "this present season." So what time period is meant in the term aforetime? It cont Does aforetime mean something different for every Christian? Does aforetime mean the time before the Christian was saved? If so, then it means a different time period for every Christian. And does "this present season" mean the time period after being saved, different for every Christian? I don't think so. It appears to me in context ("in His blood") refers to the cross. Thus the aforetime is before the cross, and the "this present season" is the time after the cross. Thus the "passing over of the sins done aforetime" would be sins done before the cross, which has nothing to do with Christians living in this present time.

But whatever the time periods are, the fact that God passed over sins done aforetime in His forebearance -- that fact does not imply anything about sins done in this present time. If God forgave sins in the past, that does not imply anything about future sins one way or the other. Moreover, the passage does not say "forgiveness," it says, "passing over."

So while you ponder the passage, it hardly negates the security of the believer.

[SUP]38 [/SUP]Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.
[SUP]39 [/SUP]For the promise is unto you, and to your children, and to all that are afar off, even as many as the Lord our God shall call.
2 Peter 1:9
But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.Hebrews 1:3
Who being the brightness of his glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high:1 John 1:7
But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.


scripture teaches we have forgiveness of past sins, we are created new, if we have fellowship with Christ and continue in him his blood keeps us clean from sin.

Isaiah 1:18
Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

 

[Atwood]

Re: ROMANS 3:23 ETC.

the righteousness of God is through faith in Christ...faith without works is dead

By grace you have been saved through faith, not of works.
Works follow salvation, & but are not required for salvation. To claim you will be saved by your works is self-righteousness. And this has nothing to do with the thread topic, which is that Once saved, Saved. Saved means there is a SAvior who saves your wretched hide. Saved means the sinner gets help from the Savior.

is not by works of the law

It is not by works period.

Christ was the sacrifice for our sins...Hebrews 10:18
Now where remission of these is, there is no more offering for sin.
That is why we have to remain in his his goodness...

They only have to before salvation, the MUST I DO to be saved, is believe, trust the Savior.
Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, & you shall be saved.

The only have to after salvation is the have to which God has to, namely God has to keep His word, His promises, of which there is no doubt.

Thou shalt call His name Jesus, for
He shall save His people from their sins.

Romans 11:22

Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.

The passages speaks of major groups (Israel & the gentiles) & their status; gentiles are addressed as a singular "thou." The blessings of the Abrahamic tree now focus on gentiles, as the Church is predominately gentile. The verse is not about individuals who trust Christ as Savior.

The same passage affirms that the gifts & calling of God are irrevocable. There is no threat of a believer losing salvation in Romans 11.

You are invited to stop doing the work of the Confuser and believe the gospel NewB.

I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish. Instead of going off on this or that verse which does not mention salvation & trying to act like it means "lose salvation," thought it never says that, focus on the promises of God. Believe them & interpret the rest on that basis.

That as sin hath reigned unto death, even so might grace reign through righteousness unto eternal life by Jesus Christ our Lord.

Romans 5 is a profound passage teaching us that we are sinners because of membership in the race of Adam. And if we are righteous unto eternal life, it is only by the Lord Jesus, by our connection to Him. As Adam made all men sinners, so many (who trust Christ) are made righteous by Christ. He is the second Adam, founder of a new race.

Isaiah 1:18
Come now, and let us reason together, saith the Lord: though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be as white as snow; though they be red like crimson, they shall be as wool.

Great verse, NewB. Will you apply that one to yourself? Trust the Lord Jesus now as Savior (if you have discounted him to mere chance-giver), and get your sins cleansed.

Note that the color of sin in the Bible is red. Try taking a red marker and writing SIN on a white sheet of paper. Then take red glasses (same shade of red as the red marker) -- the word SIN will be gone! Viewing our sin through the blood of Jesus makes it disappear to the viewer. The blood was sprinkled on the mercy seat with the Glory of God above it. Think of Him looking down at the 10 commandments below inside the Ark, Commandments defiled with our red sins.