Jesus Christ is not your Lord

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God is at work in the lives of every soul in the world, whether they believe in Him on not, even the most God hating atheist in the world is being watched, tested, and changed on a daily basis, so that one day in that non-believer's future, they will get down on their knees and give themselves to God, why? because Jesus is Lord:
they all will confess that he is Lord in that day... but is he the Lord of their life now? If they should die before that day


Romans 8:29. For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
Did you see many, the offer is to all but all will not accept....

That is the purpose of God, God foreknows every soul in the world, and He has predestined them to be conformed, that is remade, into perfect spiritual images of Jesus. He is hard at work on everyone, non-believers, Muslims, Buddhists, everybody, to slowly, over time, remake them into perfect spiritual images of Jesus. there will be some who will not be converted, and for them, the second death awaits, but god will not give up until it becomes clear that their soul cannot be remade into the gold He wants in His Kingdom.
God has given us the ministry of reconciliation and to all who receive him the power to become a son.
John 1:12
But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

So YES, Jesus is Lord of all !
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Lord means master you have to do the will of the Father fo him to be your Lord
 

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He's the One who shows His mercies morning by morning so as long as I have TODAY I know there's hope.
I had that physical soreness all over the joints in my body not to mention that emptiness in the brain for more than half a year after I quit smoking.
I don't think quitting sinning would lead to such because the craving is all in the mind.
Theoretically it should be easier and more so if we have more encouraging threads like this one and less so if we side with the accuser saying we just can't or we have already arrived in Christ when we are have not.
Amen, and so let each of us grow in this amazing grace ready for us all, by God, teaching each of us how to walk in trust to God by Son. So that we walk as he walked in humility, even to the cross for us
 

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Lord means master you have to do the will of the Father fo him to be your Lord
And so Father knowing we do not do Father's will, and can't; being of flesh and blood, sent his son through the Virgin birth of Mary, to perform a perfect life in dependency on Father for us, showing us how to walk by Faith in Father, the only one that ever could, being born of Virgin Mary. Christ born a life giving Spirit, when he went to the cross he took on the sin of the world, and condemned it all to flesh as per Romans 8:3.
then risen on the third day back to life by Father from Father to give us new life in the risen Christ in Spirit and truth per John 4:23-24. Where we now by Christ's death reckon it our death to self flesh, carnal nature. and we do this daily, in order to be alive daily in Spirit and truth with Father thanks to Son, were daily we enter his courts with thanksgiving and praise as in Psalms 100:4
All one needs to do is first give up on self ever being perfect and ask God for this new life in the resurrected Christ and Father is faithful to reveal this to you and all who believe
Thank you very much, hope you are hearing love and Mercy from God through Son
 
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And so Father knowing we do not do Father's will, and can't; being of flesh and blood, sent his son through the Virgin birth of Mary, to perform a perfect life in dependency on Father for us, showing us how to walk by Faith in Father, the only one that ever could, being born of Virgin Mary. Christ born a life giving Spirit, when he went to the cross he took on the sin of the world, and condemned it all to flesh as per Romans 8:3.
then risen on the third day back to life by Father from Father to give us new life in the risen Christ in Spirit and truth per John 4:23-24. Where we now by Christ's death reckon it our death to self flesh, carnal nature. and we do this daily, in order to be alive daily in Spirit and truth with Father thanks to Son, were daily we enter his courts with thanksgiving and praise as in Psalms 100:4
All one needs to do is first give up on self ever being perfect and ask God for this new life in the resurrected Christ and Father is faithful to reveal this to you and all who believe
Thank you very much, hope you are hearing love and Mercy from God through Son
You keep posting your opinion over God's word, which lacks faith and substance...If God's word says you can then you can....
Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
 

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You keep posting your opinion over God's word, which lacks faith and substance...If God's word says you can then you can....
Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
Newbirth did you not read howardbounds post where he mentioned life in the spirit and not the flesh ,everything he had mentioned is pure gospel , life in the spirit is what jesus came to teach , we know by faith that the spirit is the spirit of the Father Holy and pure then , if we walk in the spirit we sin not , but if we walk in the flesh we are in death but we chose life . , blessings newbirth
 

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You keep posting your opinion over God's word, which lacks faith and substance...If God's word says you can then you can....
Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
So how is this done other than by God's love as in 1 Cor. 13:4-7 Is God's Love and Mercy my opinion, well Thank you I just love you, knowing God does as well, and has not condemned me, and am so thankful I can't condemn you or anyone else. For God is my Judge and I am clear by God. So are you aren't you?
 
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Newbirth did you not read howardbounds post where he mentioned life in the spirit and not the flesh ,everything he had mentioned is pure gospel , life in the spirit is what jesus came to teach , we know by faith that the spirit is the spirit of the Father Holy and pure then , if we walk in the spirit we sin not , but if we walk in the flesh we are in death but we chose life . , blessings newbirth
Mare words spoken to appease the mind but denying the power to mortify the flesh...God gave us power to become sons, that means we can emulate Christ. We have power over our fleshly desires. It is like me putting a $1000 in a beggar's pocket and he is not aware of it. To him he still has no money. So he is saying to me give up on self being perfect. And ask God for what he has already given me. And God will reveal to me to stop aspiring for his perfection. So a desire to be like Christ in spirit is OK but not in the flesh. But God is concerned about the whole man...
And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body bepreserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
When someone says "all One needs to do" that is cause for concern.....
All one needs to do is first give up on self ever being perfect and ask God for this new life in the resurrected Christ and Father is faithful to reveal this to you and all who believe
Thank you very much, hope you are hearing love and Mercy from God through Son
 
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So how is this done other than by God's love as in 1 Cor. 13:4-7 Is God's Love and Mercy my opinion, well Thank you I just love you, knowing God does as well, and has not condemned me, and am so thankful I can't condemn you or anyone else. For God is my Judge and I am clear by God. So are you aren't you?
As always God's power gives us the ability to be doers of the word.... So we do it and we give him the glory.
 

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As always God's power gives us the ability to be doers of the word.... So we do it and we give him the glory.
That right there is the difference in flesh walking and Spirit walking
For if works are of the flesh it is not pleasing to God.

Romans 8:1Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
 

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Mare words spoken to appease the mind but denying the power to mortify the flesh...God gave us power to become sons, that means we can emulate Christ. We have power over our fleshly desires. It is like me putting a $1000 in a beggar's pocket and he is not aware of it. To him he still has no money. So he is saying to me give up on self being perfect. And ask God for what he has already given me. And God will reveal to me to stop aspiring for his perfection. So a desire to be like Christ in spirit is OK but not in the flesh. But God is concerned about the whole man...
And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body bepreserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.
When someone says "all One needs to do" that is cause for concern.....
oh and I think you misunderstand Apostles meaning as in how to walk by Spirit of truth, not spirit of error.
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oh and I think you misunderstand Apostles meaning as in how to walk by Spirit of truth, not spirit of error.
thank you
please tell what I misunderstood...This is how we walk in the spirit...Paul is very clear

[SUP]22 [/SUP]But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

[SUP]23 [/SUP]Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

[SUP]25 [/SUP]If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.
Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. [SUP]2 [/SUP]Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

[SUP]3 [/SUP]For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]For every man shall bear his own burden.



This is the walk of the flesh

[SUP]19 [/SUP]Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
[SUP]20 [/SUP]Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
 

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I cannot what is not there...you have no scripture to back that up....we are born of God.....Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.Galatians 5:16
This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.


John 3:6-7 (HCSB)

[SUP]6 [/SUP] Whatever is born of the flesh is flesh, and whatever is born of the Spirit is spirit.
[SUP]7 [/SUP] Do not be amazed that I told you that you
must be born again.
 

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Are you really born again?....
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3 [/SUP]According as his divine power hath given unto us all things that pertain unto life and godliness, through the knowledge of him that hath called us to glory and virtue:

[SUP]4 [/SUP]Whereby are given unto us exceeding great and precious promises: that by these ye might be partakers of the divine nature, having escaped the corruption that is in the world through lust.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge;
[SUP]6 [/SUP]And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness;
[SUP]7 [/SUP]And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity.
[SUP]8 [/SUP]For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ.
[SUP]9 [/SUP]But he that lacketh these things is blind, and cannot see afar off, and hath forgotten that he was purged from his old sins.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall:

[SUP]11 [/SUP]For so an entrance shall be ministered unto you abundantly into the everlasting kingdom of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ.

YES! The Holy Spirit brought my human spirit to Eternal Life the last week of December 1977. He poured the LOVE of GOD into my heart and took up residence there. That LOVE of GOD forced me to REALLY see myself as a HORRIBLE SINNER, and I cried out for HIS MERCY. It also brought me to willingly surrender Control of my life to JESUS CHRIST as my LORD and Master. The Holy Spirit opened my ears to hear My SHEPHERD's voice in the Scriptures, and Filled me with PEACE and JOY! That LOVE of GOD put a HUNGER in my heart to hear HIS WORD being TAUGHT, and to Study for myself, and that HUNGER has NEVER DIED OUT. He put a great Longing to GO HOME TO HIM, in my heart, and a joyful eagerness to see JESUS, my GOD and Savior, as well as my Bridegroom to come and CALL US OUT to meet HIM in the AIR, to go to Heaven for the Wedding of the LAMB, to the Church. I have had that JOY in me, nearly every day since that last week of December 1977; even when I was carrying mail on a walking route in the cold Pacific Coast winter rains when it was raining sideways. I was known as the whistling mailman, because that JOY came out of me almost continually in the form of whistling Hymns, and praising HIM. GOD is so GOOD!

Where is your JOY?
 
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please tell what I misunderstood...This is how we walk in the spirit...Paul is very clear

[SUP]22 [/SUP]But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,

[SUP]23 [/SUP]Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.
[SUP]24 [/SUP]And they that are Christ's have crucified the flesh with the affections and lusts.

[SUP]25 [/SUP]If we live in the Spirit, let us also walk in the Spirit.
[SUP]26 [/SUP]Let us not be desirous of vain glory, provoking one another, envying one another.
Brethren, if a man be overtaken in a fault, ye which are spiritual, restore such an one in the spirit of meekness; considering thyself, lest thou also be tempted. [SUP]2 [/SUP]Bear ye one another's burdens, and so fulfil the law of Christ.

[SUP]3 [/SUP]For if a man think himself to be something, when he is nothing, he deceiveth himself.
[SUP]4 [/SUP]But let every man prove his own work, and then shall he have rejoicing in himself alone, and not in another.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]For every man shall bear his own burden.



This is the walk of the flesh

[SUP]19 [/SUP]Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
[SUP]20 [/SUP]Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
[SUP]21 [/SUP]Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.
Originally Posted by Apostol2013
Newbirth did you not read howardbounds post where he mentioned life in the spirit and not the flesh ,everything he had mentioned is pure gospel , life in the spirit is what jesus came to teach , we know by faith that the spirit is the spirit of the Father Holy and pure then , if we walk in the spirit we sin not , but if we walk in the flesh we are in death but we chose life . , blessings newbirth
Newbirth
Mare words spoken to appease the mind but denying the power to mortify the flesh...God gave us power to become sons, that means we can emulate Christ. We have power over our fleshly desires. It is like me putting a $1000 in a beggar's pocket and he is not aware of it. To him he still has no money. So he is saying to me give up on self being perfect. And ask God for what he has already given me. And God will reveal to me to stop aspiring for his perfection. So a desire to be like Christ in spirit is OK but not in the flesh. But God is concerned about the whole man...
And the very God of peace sanctify you wholly; and I pray God your whole spirit and soul and body bepreserved blameless unto the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ.

When someone says "all One needs to do" that is cause for concern.....
All one needs to do is first give up on self ever being perfect and ask God for this new life in the resurrected Christ and Father is faithful to reveal this to you and all who believe
Thank you very much, hope you are hearing love and Mercy from God through Son
So are you saying you think we are not hearing truth, that it is all God and none of us? For by giving God all the credit, as we go about doing what is right to do as we are led by God's Spirit of truth, our flesh never is redeemed our born again Spirit is what controls our flesh, the old man is dead the new man is Spirit and truth

Romans 8 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. [SUP]2 [/SUP]For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. [SUP]3 [/SUP]For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: [SUP]4 [/SUP]that the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. [SUP]6 [/SUP]For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. [SUP]7 [/SUP]Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. [SUP]8 [/SUP]So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
 

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YES! The Holy Spirit brought my human spirit to Eternal Life the last week of December 1977. He poured the LOVE of GOD into my heart and took up residence there. That LOVE of GOD forced me to REALLY see myself as a HORRIBLE SINNER, and I cried out for HIS MERCY. It also brought me to willingly surrender Control of my life to JESUS CHRIST as my LORD and Master. The Holy Spirit opened my ears to hear My SHEPHERD's voice in the Scriptures, and Filled me with PEACE and JOY! That LOVE of GOD put a HUNGER in my heart to hear HIS WORD being TAUGHT, and to Study for myself, and that HUNGER has NEVER DIED OUT. He put a great Longing to GO HOME TO HIM, in my heart, and a joyful eagerness to see JESUS, my GOD and Savior, as well as my Bridegroom to come and CALL US OUT to meet HIM in the AIR, to go to Heaven for the Wedding of the LAMB, to the Church. I have had that JOY in me, nearly every day since that last week of December 1977; even when I was carrying mail on a walking route in the cold Pacific Coast winter rains when it was raining sideways. I was known as the whistling mailman, because that JOY came out of me almost continually in the form of whistling Hymns, and praising HIM. GOD is so GOOD!

Where is your JOY?
Now that is the peace, joy, and righteousness past the human, carnal flesh it does can't Fathom this love as in 1 cor. 13:4-7, as I know this as well, it is beyond measure, thanks for this testimony, I understand it in Spirit of yehweh, for Yehweh (God) has given this peace and joy to me as well, it is beyond words that just keeps me in humility, thanks to Yeshua (Jesus)
 

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We hear of men believing in Christ, believing in God, trusting and having great faith in Christ and God. We constantly hear the phrase" Jesus is Lord!". Sure the scriptures is clear,
1 Corinthians 8:6
But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
What do we mean by LORD
lord

noun \ˈlȯrd\


Definition of LORD

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: one having power and authority over others:
a : a ruler by hereditary right or preeminence to whom service and obedience are due




To the one who does not give Jesus power and authority over their life, he is not their Lord.
To the one who does not give Jesus the service and obedience due , he is not their Lord.
If you confess Jesus Christ as Lord, he becomes your master if you disobey him you are a liar and therefore he is not your Lord.
Romans 10

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

While some falsely teach "believe is the only command you must obey to be saved" the word of God is clear, believing Jesus and him becoming the Lord of your life is the way to salvation.
Those who teach otherwise deny the Lordship of Jesus if Jesus is not your Lord you cannot be saved.
Matthew 10:32-34
[SUP]32 [/SUP]Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
[SUP]33 [/SUP]But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
[SUP]34 [/SUP]Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.
are you Jehovah Witness?
 
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are you Jehovah Witness?
Is this a trick question?....God is Jehovah and we are his witness here on earth...If I say yes you pin me to a doctrine if I say no I deny God....Yet I am Christ's...
 
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So are you saying you think we are not hearing truth, that it is all God and none of us? For by giving God all the credit, as we go about doing what is right to do as we are led by God's Spirit of truth, our flesh never is redeemed our born again Spirit is what controls our flesh, the old man is dead the new man is Spirit and truth

Romans 8 Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)8 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. [SUP]2 [/SUP]For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. [SUP]3 [/SUP]For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: [SUP]4 [/SUP]that the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit.
[SUP]5 [/SUP]For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit. [SUP]6 [/SUP]For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. [SUP]7 [/SUP]Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be. [SUP]8 [/SUP]So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.
All through the word God is saying do this to that but for whatever reason some think they cant do anything. God has not asked us to do the impossible..he gave us power to do these things...

I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith. ...

God will not accept a sinful disobedient sacrifice...
 

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All through the word God is saying do this to that but for whatever reason some think they cant do anything. God has not asked us to do the impossible..he gave us power to do these things...

I beseech you therefore, brethren, by the mercies of God, that ye present your bodies a living sacrifice, holy, acceptable unto God, which is your reasonable service. And be not conformed to this world: but be ye transformed by the renewing of your mind, that ye may prove what is that good, and acceptable, and perfect, will of God. For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith. ...

God will not accept a sinful disobedient sacrifice...


1 John 1:8 (NIV)
[SUP]8 [/SUP] If we claim to be without sin, we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us.

1 John 1:10 (NIV)
[SUP]10 [/SUP] If we claim we have not sinned, we make him out to be a liar and his word has no place in our lives.

Like I said there is a VAST difference between spiritual positional holiness where we are seen through the blood of the Cross;

and the physical reality of a carnal mind that has a sin nature in it. Yes we get better at controlling our carnal mind with our spiritual mind, as we mature spiritually. But NEVER will we be totally free of that sin nature until we get a new glorified body at our resurrection.

ANY ONE who thinks His flesh is now perfectly holy, obviously has NOT done enough studying about all that GOD considers SIN.
 

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Is this a trick question?....God is Jehovah and we are his witness here on earth...If I say yes you pin me to a doctrine if I say no I deny God....Yet I am Christ's...
NO it was not a TRICK Question, it is an honest question and all we get from you is evasive half truth answers. You certainly would have made a GREAT politician. But a Christian who beats around the bush, instead of giving people a STRAIGHT ANSWER about who and what he is doctrinally affiliated with, has a questionable character behind his beliefs at best.

Like I have told you several times, I am a non-denominational Conservative Evangelical.

WHAT ARE YOU?

Based on how you answered that last question, I would have to GUESS, that you are a non-church goer, who is not a practicing Jehovah Witness, but leans toward a some of their Teachings. Was I even close?