Jesus Christ is not your Lord

[newbirth]

We hear of men believing in Christ, believing in God, trusting and having great faith in Christ and God. We constantly hear the phrase" Jesus is Lord!". Sure the scriptures is clear,
1 Corinthians 8:6
But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
What do we mean by LORD
lord

noun \ˈlȯrd\


Definition of LORD

1
: one having power and authority over others:
a : a ruler by hereditary right or preeminence to whom service and obedience are due




To the one who does not give Jesus power and authority over their life, he is not their Lord.
To the one who does not give Jesus the service and obedience due , he is not their Lord.
If you confess Jesus Christ as Lord, he becomes your master if you disobey him you are a liar and therefore he is not your Lord.
Romans 10

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

While some falsely teach "believe is the only command you must obey to be saved" the word of God is clear, believing Jesus and him becoming the Lord of your life is the way to salvation.
Those who teach otherwise deny the Lordship of Jesus if Jesus is not your Lord you cannot be saved.
Matthew 10:32-34
[SUP]32 [/SUP]Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
[SUP]33 [/SUP]But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
[SUP]34 [/SUP]Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

 

[crossnote]

and *you*, being dead in your offences and sins-- in which ye once walked according to the age of this world, according to the ruler of the authority of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience: among whom *we* also all once had our conversation in the lusts of our flesh, doing what the flesh and the thoughts willed to do, and were children, by nature, of wrath, even as the rest:
but God, being rich in mercy, because of his great love wherewith he loved us, (we too being dead in offences,) has quickened us with the Christ, (ye are saved by grace,)
(Eph 2:1-5)

Even though He is Lord and Savior...
He saved us as Savior, we spend a life time learning to relate to Him as Lord.

 

[Atwood]

Jesus Christ is Indeed the Lord

Yes, He is my Lord.

And every knee shall bow & tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.

He is coming. And when He sets up His Kingdom, He will not rule with a wet noodle, but with a rod of iron.

 

[breno785au]

I like the Strong definition better than dictionary:
2962 kýrios – properly, a person exercising absolute ownership rights; lord (Lord).

 

[newbirth]

and *you*, being dead in your offences and sins-- in which ye once walked according to the age of this world, according to the ruler of the authority of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience: among whom *we* also all once had our conversation in the lusts of our flesh, doing what the flesh and the thoughts willed to do, and were children, by nature, of wrath, even as the rest:
but God, being rich in mercy, because of his great love wherewith he loved us, (we too being dead in offences,) has quickened us with the Christ, (ye are saved by grace,)
(Eph 2:1-5)

Even though He is Lord and Savior...
He saved us as Savior, we spend a life time learning to relate to Him as Lord.

2 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

[SUP]2 [/SUP]Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

[SUP]3 [/SUP]Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

[SUP]4 [/SUP]But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved


He saved us from those he is our master now,to follow and obey....
[SUP]27 [/SUP]My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
[SUP]28 [/SUP]And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

 

[newbirth]

Re: Jesus Christ is Indeed the Lord

Yes, He is my Lord.

And every knee shall bow & tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord.

He is coming. And when He sets up His Kingdom, He will not rule with a wet noodle, but with a rod of iron.

Not a problem to those who obey him...
Hebrews 5:9
And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

 

[newbirth]

I like the Strong definition better than dictionary:
2962 kýrios – properly, a person exercising absolute ownership rights; lord (Lord).

Works for me ....Lord Jesus, exercising absolute ownership rights...means I obey his every command ...not just believe...

 

[Hashe]

We hear of men believing in Christ, believing in God, trusting and having great faith in Christ and God. We constantly hear the phrase" Jesus is Lord!". Sure the scriptures is clear,
1 Corinthians 8:6
But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
What do we mean by LORD
lord

noun \ˈlȯrd\


Definition of LORD

1
: one having power and authority over others:
a : a ruler by hereditary right or preeminence to whom service and obedience are due




To the one who does not give Jesus power and authority over their life, he is not their Lord.
To the one who does not give Jesus the service and obedience due , he is not their Lord.
If you confess Jesus Christ as Lord, he becomes your master if you disobey him you are a liar and therefore he is not your Lord.
Romans 10

That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be saved.
[SUP]10 [/SUP]For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto salvation.

While some falsely teach "believe is the only command you must obey to be saved" the word of God is clear, believing Jesus and him becoming the Lord of your life is the way to salvation.
Those who teach otherwise deny the Lordship of Jesus if Jesus is not your Lord you cannot be saved.
Matthew 10:32-34
[SUP]32 [/SUP]Whosoever therefore shall confess me before men, him will I confess also before my Father which is in heaven.
[SUP]33 [/SUP]But whosoever shall deny me before men, him will I also deny before my Father which is in heaven.
[SUP]34 [/SUP]Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

This isn't anti-Christian? Really?

 

[Hashe]

People really have no idea about the Bible, or the original language. Why don't people try and learn something before posting such rubbish? kyrios in Greek can mean many things in the NT.
It can mean, 'sir', as a term of respect.
It mean, lord, as in someone with authority
Or it can be used as a replacement for Yahweh.
(James 3:1 - Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers and sisiter, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness. )

 

[breno785au]

Works for me ....Lord Jesus, exercising absolute ownership rights...means I obey his every command ...not just believe...

Yes it can mean obey his every command, but its great to know that He has absolute ownership, a loving Father, yet a majestic King. Knowing that He owns us reminds us what He has done. I think the two means should be coupled together and not seperated, you can do all He says and not know who He is.

 

[Hashe]

I like the Strong definition better than dictionary:
2962 kýrios – properly, a person exercising absolute ownership rights; lord (Lord).

this is not even the strong's definition.
The real strong's definition is
From κῦρος kuros (supremacy); supreme in authority, that is, (as noun) controller; by implication Mr. (as a respectful title): - God, Lord, master, Sir.

 

[breno785au]

this is not even the strong's definition.
The real strong's definition is
From κῦρος kuros (supremacy); supreme in authority, that is, (as noun) controller; by implication Mr. (as a respectful title): - God, Lord, master, Sir.

Yes it did say from kuros.

 

[p_rehbein]

Well, shouldn't be surprised...........anything is open for argument here............sigh.......

 

[Agricola]

Its not surprising that new Christians struggle with all the garbage and new age thinking that comes along.

Jesus is Lord of Lords and King of Kings. He will physically rule the world for 1000 years. He is my Lord and King.

 

[newbirth]

This isn't anti-Christian? Really?

It may be ...to those with itching ears. You think Making Jesus Christ your Lord is anti Christian ? Who is your Lord?

Matthew 7:21
Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

 

[newbirth]

People really have no idea about the Bible, or the original language. Why don't people try and learn something before posting such rubbish? kyrios in Greek can mean many things in the NT.
It can mean, 'sir', as a term of respect.
It mean, lord, as in someone with authority
Or it can be used as a replacement for Yahweh.
(James 3:1 - Not many of you should become teachers, my brothers and sisiter, for you know that we who teach will be judged with greater strictness. )

The same way Jesus can mean many things to men. Is he your "sir", "lord"or "Yahweh"?

[SUP]13 [/SUP]When Jesus came into the coasts of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, saying, Whom do men say that I the Son of man am?
[SUP]14 [/SUP]And they said, Some say that thou art John the Baptist: some, Elias; and others, Jeremias, or one of the prophets.
[SUP]15 [/SUP]He saith unto them, But whom say ye that I am?
[SUP]16 [/SUP]And Simon Peter answered and said, Thou art the Christ, the Son of the living God.
[SUP]17 [/SUP]And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Barjona: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father which is in heaven.


1 Corinthians 8:5-7
[SUP]5 [/SUP]For though there be that are called gods, whether in heaven or in earth, (as there be gods many, and lords many,)
[SUP]6 [/SUP]But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

[SUP]7 [/SUP]Howbeit there is not in every man that knowledge: for some with conscience of the idol unto this hour eat it as a thing offered unto an idol; and their conscience being weak is defiled.

 

[newbirth]

Yes it can mean obey his every command, but its great to know that He has absolute ownership, a loving Father, yet a majestic King. Knowing that He owns us reminds us what He has done. I think the two means should be coupled together and not seperated, you can do all He says and not know who He is.

I have not separated anything, we know who he is, are you saying you don't know who he is? If you don't know who he is, how can you be sure you are doing what he says?
God needs no help in being who he is or doing what he does, we need to do what he wants.

 

[newbirth]

Its not surprising that new Christians struggle with all the garbage and new age thinking that comes along.

Jesus is Lord of Lords and King of Kings. He will physically rule the world for 1000 years. He is my Lord and King.

Thank you!

 

[p_rehbein]

Just curious, what is the problem with the OP that has everyone in such a tizzy? He is just asking if people have truly committed their lives to Jesus Christ as their Lord and Saviour...........as far as I read it.........what's the big deal?

People want to debate what "Lord" means............I suppose it can mean many things to many people.........isn't that what he is pointing out in the OP?


BTW................FYI...........Jesus Christ is my Lord and Saviour, but I don't buy that He will "physically" reign for 1,000 years on earth..........so, I guess I'm on everyone's doodoo list too huh? Ok, fine with me...........while y'all are hanging around down here waiting on Him to appear "physically," I'll be UP THERE with Him...........

 

[crossnote]

and *you*, being dead in your offences and sins-- in which ye once walked according to the age of this world, according to the ruler of the authority of the air, the spirit who now works in the sons of disobedience: among whom *we* also all once had our conversation in the lusts of our flesh, doing what the flesh and the thoughts willed to do, and were children, by nature, of wrath, even as the rest:
but God, being rich in mercy, because of his great love wherewith he loved us, (we too being dead in offences,) has quickened us with the Christ, (ye are saved by grace,)
(Eph 2:1-5)

Even though He is Lord and Savior...
He saved us as Savior, we spend a life time learning to relate to Him as Lord.

2 And you hath he quickened, who were dead in trespasses and sins;

[SUP]2 [/SUP]Wherein in time past ye walked according to the course of this world, according to the prince of the power of the air, the spirit that now worketh in the children of disobedience:

[SUP]3 [/SUP]Among whom also we all had our conversation in times past in the lusts of our flesh, fulfilling the desires of the flesh and of the mind; and were by nature the children of wrath, even as others.

[SUP]4 [/SUP]But God, who is rich in mercy, for his great love wherewith he loved us,
[SUP]5 [/SUP]Even when we were dead in sins, hath quickened us together with Christ, (by grace ye are saved


He saved us from those he is our master now,to follow and obey....
[SUP]27 [/SUP]My sheep hear my voice, and I know them, and they follow me:
[SUP]28 [/SUP]And I give unto them eternal life; and they shall never perish, neither shall any man pluck them out of my hand.

And your point? Or are you confirming what I wrote?
No, we have not reached perfection yet.