Gay Christian?

[SarahM777]

The big difference is: usually the alcoholics aren't proud of their sin, unlike the gays.
That's why the gays have PRIDE Marches, and alcoholics don't have them.

True, we're all sinners, but there's no need to emphasize our own particular sin.
Your sin what keeps you away from God, not what defines you as a christian.

Are you assuming that ALL gay people go to PRIDE marches? Most gays DON'T attend those things. That is a small vocal MINORITY that is pushing their agenda.

 

[MarkMulder]

And who's proud of being "gay" here?


I have tried to get rid of it, but you guys are telling me I'm not a Christian because I'm attracted to my same sex?


I would never consider myself as "Gay", but before anything I'm a Christian that believes in Jesus, and nobody is gonna take that away from me. I've been struggling with this everyday of my life, so watch what you say.

What makes you think I'm part of what you refer to as "you guys?" I never said you can't be a christian when you struggle with sin, hey, we're all sinners. Nor did I claim you can't be a christian when you struggle with unnatural feelings. In my opinion that's just another temptation. You don't consider yourself as "gay," and I commend you for that. It's people who call themselves "gay christians," and needlesly emphasize their homophilia I find offensive. There's no need to take pride in your sin, any sin, you understand that well.

 

[DELL23]

What makes you think I'm part of what you refer to as "you guys?" I never said you can't be a christian when you struggle with sin, hey, we're all sinners. Nor did I claim you can't be a christian when you struggle with unnatural feelings. In my opinion that's just another temptation. You don't consider yourself as "gay," and I commend you for that. It's people who call themselves "gay christians," and needlesly emphasize their homophilia I find offensive. There's no need to take pride in your sin, any sin, you understand that well.

It's not that easy man.
I've come to think that, maybe this is our "struggle" in life like a drug addicted person; but this seems to never end (I still have faith that God can change it), but Lord is just so hard. I've been looking for online testimonies and only have found about 1, 1! How is that people? Maybe if when other brothers succeed they are ashamed to admit it, seems reasonable, but what about if they are any? All I read is people that try to get it away, but never work.


And how can I try to be with a woman knowing I'm really not sexually -attracted to her? It's awful to her. I mean, I could try to be in a relationship, but at one moment the "fakeness" has to stop. I would waste her time / years/ love.

Regards.

 

[homwardbound]

I like the post quoted.

Some thoughts:
God views people different than people view people.

Matthew 25 talks about sheep and goats. Someone said to me, "I don't want to be a goat." In reply, I said, "Fools hate correction. I don't want to be a fool." Being a Christian is not the point. The point of Christianity is Christ. God will judge
if a Christian is a goat or a sheep. In terms of labels, a Christian (or synonymous term) is one who acknowledge that Jesus is the best example and is to be followed, not only because he was moral compass for the ages; a Christian sees Christ as Lord and Redeemer, one with all authority (Matthew 28). Christian's believe Jesus death and resurrection-- not mere clothes, words, or actions, or well-wishing-- were God's greatest expression of love and hope. In the words of my pastor, "Because He got up, I believe."

Can someone suffer or choose to suffer? yes. The book of Peter, named after the one whom Jesus said would see him suffer, that book says that suffering will happen. But will we suffer by our doing wrong or as we look to do good? Christians have different ideas on the particulars, sure, but the Bible is clear on many things. Even those so-called obvious aspects of Scripture get misunderstood and/or poorly taught.

If Christianity is more complex than the Bible,
then it is a good thing that the God of the Bible is perfect in knowing hearts and actions.

And is the only one that can reveal truth that sets one free in belief of Father, Son and Holy Spirit, watch, as these three rejoice over one another in agreement with one another, dancing around each other saying no ??Father it is you, no Son it is you, no not me it is you in the Spirit of you. Can you maybe now see in Spirit and truth and join in on the praise and thanksgiving fest?

 

[homwardbound]

The big difference is: usually the alcoholics aren't proud of their sin, unlike the gays.
That's why the gays have PRIDE Marches, and alcoholics don't have them.

True, we're all sinners, but there's no need to emphasize our own particular sin.
Your sin what keeps you away from God, not what defines you as a christian.

So, curious about what you just said, does this analogy of yours give you a get out of jail free card and can go on in sin the same one over and over again and repent over and over again, and you are free and the gays are not?
If you say the are in bondage and not forgiven, then you are not either oh man.

 

[homwardbound]

You do realize that part of it is a back lash because of this type of stuff yet where are the Christians denoucing this type of stuff which happens far to often. And this is done in the name of Christ

Good Christian Pastor Orders Congregation to Beat Gay Son

A gay Gibson County couple said they were assaulted when they tried to attend church services at the Grace Fellowship Church in Fruitland last Wednesday.“I went over to take the keys out of the ignition and all the sudden I hear someone say ‘sick’em,’” said Gibson County resident, Jerry Pittman Jr. (LINK)​

ABC News reports that a Tennessee man was assaulted by a church congregation for trying to attend a service. The kicker to the story? The pastor was the man’s father.Luckily, this is the United States of America, where we just don’t put up with that sort of thing. Concerned bystanders jumped in to stop the assault. The police were called and all of the perpetrators were arrested and lectured sternly about their social obligation to tolerate those who are different than them. Right?Well… no. That’s not what happened at all. In fact, it was pretty much the opposite.

“My uncle and two other deacons came over to the car per my dad’s request. My uncle smash me in the door as the other deacon knocked my boyfriend back so he couldn’t help me, punching him in his face and his chest. The other deacon came and hit me through my car window in my back,” said Pittman. He said bystanders did not offer assistance. He said the deacon yelled derogatory homosexual slurs, even after officers arrived. He said the officers never intervened to stop the deacons from yelling the slurs.

Good Christian Pastor Orders Congregation to Beat Gay Son | Life Without a Net

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What a shame and we know them by their love:

[h=3]Luke 6:30-40[/h]New International Version (NIV)

[SUP]30 [/SUP]Give to everyone who asks you, and if anyone takes what belongs to you, do not demand it back. [SUP]31 [/SUP]Do to others as you would have them do to you.
[SUP]32 [/SUP]“If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. [SUP]33 [/SUP]And if you do good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do that. [SUP]34 [/SUP]And if you lend to those from whom you expect repayment, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners, expecting to be repaid in full. [SUP]35 [/SUP]But love your enemies, do good to them, and lend to them without expecting to get anything back. Then your reward will be great, and you will be children of the Most High, because he is kind to the ungrateful and wicked. [SUP]36 [/SUP]Be merciful, just as your Father is merciful.

 

[homwardbound]

"A little leaven leavens the whole lump of dough." -Galatians 5:9

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Actually as a man thinks so is he. I have found no one to be able to escape that, and is to me why we are called to do this:

Romans 12:2
Do not conform to the pattern of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind. Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is—his good, pleasing and perfect will.


? from whose point of view, pastor(s) other peoples or God's?
Who is one's teacher, the world Churches, the Bible or God himself?
[h=3]Hebrews 8:11[/h]New International Version (NIV)

[SUP]11 [/SUP]No longer will they teach their neighbor,
or say to one another, ‘Know the Lord,’
because they will all know me,
from the least of them to the greatest.

 

[homwardbound]

And who's proud of being "gay" here?


I have tried to get rid of it, but you guys are telling me I'm not a Christian because I'm attracted to my same sex?

I would never consider myself as "Gay", but before anything I'm a Christian that believes in Jesus, and nobody is gonna take that away from me. I've been struggling with this everyday of my life, so watch what you say.

God just just love you, not only you but all, time to say thank you and trust God to do in you what you desire to see and be, thank you for your honesty, and God now reveals to you truth that sets you free by his sacrifice that was for you too

 

[homwardbound]

It's not that easy man.
I've come to think that, maybe this is our "struggle" in life like a drug addicted person; but this seems to never end (I still have faith that God can change it), but Lord is just so hard. I've been looking for online testimonies and only have found about 1, 1! How is that people? Maybe if when other brothers succeed they are ashamed to admit it, seems reasonable, but what about if they are any? All I read is people that try to get it away, but never work.


And how can I try to be with a woman knowing I'm really not sexually -attracted to her? It's awful to her. I mean, I could try to be in a relationship, but at one moment the "fakeness" has to stop. I would waste her time / years/ love.

Regards.

What makes you think you have to have sex at all? Puberty, is what controls flesh whether hetero-sexual or not. When one comes of age a need arises and one either ignoires this need and it never takes effect or they given into this need and it takes effect, unto eventually a trait in that person.

So see this please, a practice any practice of any kind of behavior, if practiced long enough becomes a habit. A habit long enough becomes a characteristic, and if long enough there a trait, and that person is stuck right there being 100% controlled by the belief of this trait in them

So if and when one tries to beleive differently and does not agree with what they have done or are drawn to do is difficult and not possible, because as one thinks to the flesh that they like by puberty in them only end up doing it over and over again, until they are sick of it and give up, settling with I am just this or that and can't please God
Now that the above is truth for all, whether they are gay or not. just a fact, that no flesh efforts please God ever, even if one can stop being gay or an alcoholic
Only Christ's flesh is the only one that ever pleased Father and ever will, bask in that for awhile and see in Thanksgiving and praise. Get busy with the finished work for you to not have to work to be right with Father
And stand in this truth by Faith

Colossians 1:21 Once you were alienated from God and were enemies in your minds because of your evil behavior.
Colossians 1:22 But now he has reconciled you by Christ’s physical body through death to present you holy in his sight, without blemish and free from accusation—
Colossians 1:23 if you continue in your faith, established and firm, and do not move from the hope held out in the gospel. This is the gospel that you heard and that has been proclaimed to every creature under heaven, and of which I, Paul, have become a servant.

 

[homwardbound]

It's not that easy man.
I've come to think that, maybe this is our "struggle" in life like a drug addicted person; but this seems to never end (I still have faith that God can change it), but Lord is just so hard. I've been looking for online testimonies and only have found about 1, 1! How is that people? Maybe if when other brothers succeed they are ashamed to admit it, seems reasonable, but what about if they are any? All I read is people that try to get it away, but never work.


And how can I try to be with a woman knowing I'm really not sexually -attracted to her? It's awful to her. I mean, I could try to be in a relationship, but at one moment the "fakeness" has to stop. I would waste her time / years/ love.

Regards.

Praying for you to see the difference and be what you are in Father a Son to him through the Son Christ.

Galatians 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
Galatians 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

My prayer for you is to see the difference God showing you this is your new Spirit given to you from God by the Son's finished work for you personally

 

[MarkMulder]

So, curious about what you just said, does this analogy of yours give you a get out of jail free card and can go on in sin the same one over and over again and repent over and over again, and you are free and the gays are not?
If you say the are in bondage and not forgiven, then you are not either oh man.

If you read back you'll find I didn't bring up the "analogy" myself, that was a respons to someone else. What makes you think I don't take my own temptations seriously by the way? As a sinner I guess I'm as much "forgiven" as the gays. Never should ANY sinner be proud of his sin though, or let it define him as a christian. Calling yourself "gay christian" does just that.

 

[homwardbound]

It's not that easy man.
I've come to think that, maybe this is our "struggle" in life like a drug addicted person; but this seems to never end (I still have faith that God can change it), but Lord is just so hard. I've been looking for online testimonies and only have found about 1, 1! How is that people? Maybe if when other brothers succeed they are ashamed to admit it, seems reasonable, but what about if they are any? All I read is people that try to get it away, but never work.


And how can I try to be with a woman knowing I'm really not sexually -attracted to her? It's awful to her. I mean, I could try to be in a relationship, but at one moment the "fakeness" has to stop. I would waste her time / years/ love.

Regards.

God; Brother, plain and simply loves you so much he put you in the center of his universe, and in response to this, I for one say no you are Lord and center of my universe you gave me, and Father says no my Son is, and Son says no you are Father, and Father says no now all those that believe are, and all that believe say no you are to each other in love falling over one another in not being the center as we were once always trying to be the center, and could not be. Then when we see we are we do not want it we want others to have it, see the unconditional love that flows over as in my cup overflows with this type of love, your as well, seeing beyond this world's traps as to be number one, the center of attention, compared to seeing others as this and they seeing others as this not self anymore

 

[MarkMulder]

It's not that easy man.
I've come to think that, maybe this is our "struggle" in life like a drug addicted person; but this seems to never end (I still have faith that God can change it), but Lord is just so hard. I've been looking for online testimonies and only have found about 1, 1! How is that people? Maybe if when other brothers succeed they are ashamed to admit it, seems reasonable, but what about if they are any? All I read is people that try to get it away, but never work.


And how can I try to be with a woman knowing I'm really not sexually -attracted to her? It's awful to her. I mean, I could try to be in a relationship, but at one moment the "fakeness" has to stop. I would waste her time / years/ love.

Regards.

I never said it's "easy," I said "the struggle with unnatural feelings [...] is just ANOTHER temptation." I don't take MY sin less seriously than yours [Romans 3:23], and i'm not trying to trivialize your struggle. I'm sorry if I gave you the wrong impression, remember english isn't my native language. In your case trying to be with a woman would be a lie by the way, you shouldn't do that.

 

[Dix]

Homosexuals are people who are genetically male and female at the same time and have done no sin but satan did(inbox if you have questions) but gays are people who sleep with their same sex? this is sin/abormination and there is no relationship with God

 

[jkalyna]

Praying for you to see the difference and be what you are in Father a Son to him through the Son Christ.

Galatians 5:16 This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh.
Galatians 5:17 For the flesh lusteth against the Spirit, and the Spirit against the flesh: and these are contrary the one to the other: so that ye cannot do the things that ye would.

My prayer for you is to see the difference God showing you this is your new Spirit given to you from God by the Son's finished work for you personally

Thanks Homwardbound, straight from the bible. Now that's how I LIKE IT.

 

[jkalyna]

If you read back you'll find I didn't bring up the "analogy" myself, that was a respons to someone else. What makes you think I don't take my own temptations seriously by the way? As a sinner I guess I'm as much "forgiven" as the gays. Never should ANY sinner be proud of his sin though, or let it define him as a christian. Calling yourself "gay christian" does just that.

analogy ponalagy sounds like some kind of milk shake or shoe brand....

 

[Shava]

I understand now why gay Christians may not feel welcome to post their stories for everyone to see and I'm very sorry that that's even the case. I am still curious, so maybe if anyone wants to ssend me a private message...and we could talk there.

My friend, there is no such thing as a Gay Christian. Being gay as God says is an abomination, and the problem this lifestyle brings is so massive that every phase of life is affected because of it. God knows best, and God never created someone gay, as that would contradict what he says about it, which is that he hates it so much that he uses a word to express just how much he hates it, and that word is an " abomination ". He calls it that for a very good reason, because as I said above, the effect it will have on life will be massive. It's our duty as a Christian to do all we can to stop this lifestyle from spreading anymore than it has, because God's way is the right way. Gay people are not to be pampered for sinning and wanting to promote their sinful lifestyle on everybody else, but what they need is to be told the truth about what God thinks about it and for Christians to stop it from getting worse.

 

[homwardbound]

If you read back you'll find I didn't bring up the "analogy" myself, that was a respons to someone else. What makes you think I don't take my own temptations seriously by the way? As a sinner I guess I'm as much "forgiven" as the gays. Never should ANY sinner be proud of his sin though, or let it define him as a christian. Calling yourself "gay christian" does just that.

And so in your admission not be perfect you have no right to condemn anyone do you, let he who is without sin cast the first stone and where are your accusers, nor even I (Christ) accuse you go and find out how to trust my Father how to not sin and if you do, you have me the Son (Christ) as your advocate

So I thank Christ for this because by and through his death we are made whole to Father, and freed fromk trying to stop sin, why. because if you are too busy praising and worshiping Father there is no time for sinbeing in the Spirit of Father 24/7
I do not know your life Mark, but you do and God does, you decide to truth, but please put no other down, for God died for them as the same for you and all the world, to give each of us new Life in Father in Spirit and truth, praising Father and Son on a constant as we go here in this world, that we no longer belong to from Father's sight, that is. Maybe ask to see from Father's view and see truth that sets us free

 

[homwardbound]

It's not that easy man.
I've come to think that, maybe this is our "struggle" in life like a drug addicted person; but this seems to never end (I still have faith that God can change it), but Lord is just so hard. I've been looking for online testimonies and only have found about 1, 1! How is that people? Maybe if when other brothers succeed they are ashamed to admit it, seems reasonable, but what about if they are any? All I read is people that try to get it away, but never work.


And how can I try to be with a woman knowing I'm really not sexually -attracted to her? It's awful to her. I mean, I could try to be in a relationship, but at one moment the "fakeness" has to stop. I would waste her time / years/ love.

Regards.

Dell23 pm me if you wish to talk privately on any struggle(s), i will listen for you to get it out in the open, no condemnation from me Brother, none

 

[MarkMulder]

And so in your admission not be perfect you have no right to condemn anyone do you, let he who is without sin cast the first stone and where are your accusers, nor even I (Christ) accuse you go and find out how to trust my Father how to not sin and if you do, you have me the Son (Christ) as your advocate

I'm not condemning anyone, just giving my opinion which is based on scripture.
I KNOW I'm not perfect, but at least I don't take pride in my sin. That's my whole point.

You're well versed, but maybe you should read my posts better.