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Spokenpassage
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One more comment towards you intothevoid,
Just look at the world, at its very state, and tell me what special information you have not received?
See all these religions, all these different denominational affiliations. They know that what is in the world can't suffice their hunger for truth. They try to find outlets of every kind through their faith in whatever they believe. Don't you see this? Something should be telling you that one of these is speaking the truth, and the rest are in confusion. If nothing tells you that there is a God, then at least this and the world should tell you something.
Just look at the world, at its very state, and tell me what special information you have not received?
See all these religions, all these different denominational affiliations. They know that what is in the world can't suffice their hunger for truth. They try to find outlets of every kind through their faith in whatever they believe. Don't you see this? Something should be telling you that one of these is speaking the truth, and the rest are in confusion. If nothing tells you that there is a God, then at least this and the world should tell you something.
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Spokenpassage
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Why is that fallacious?
God is eternal, God is (Exodus 3,14). If He had a creator, than He would no longer be God.
The seen cosmos is a manifestation of God's will. Whithout God, you wouldn't have the universe.
God is the source of life.
No its not about faith, its about making a decision on the available evidence.
and yeah sometimes that may be the wrong decision. but at least it was a decision based on the evidence I had at the time.. and if new evidence came to light, I'd change my opinion on the subject. Cos that's what Evidence does.
Belief does not determine the evidence... evidence determines what you believe.
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MarkMulder
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That's John Cleese in "Fawlty Towers" duh
He hurt his head and now he's being a bad host to a couple of german guests: hilarious!
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And thank you for your easy going nature and your kind words.
Which is exactly why "I" need a loving Merciful Savior, for I wish not to harm or be harmed. Therefore I seek understanding that you are calling knowledge. Understanding this:
Seeing the fly paper hanging in the air, seeking how not to get stuck, and hearing in me how not to get stuck in being:
A person better than others, viewing us all the same, not one better than the other.
This is why I hate religion, it one ups others, putting others ahead of others using God as the Catalyst, saying see me and others give others agreement pats on the back and one's self is satisfied, thinking this is God doing this righteousness through them, when in truth they already got their reward, and are self centered, self righteous, which; those he did not come to save.
He came to get us to see to love all equally, what this Country was built on, that's it, too simple, but, apparently people just are not satisfied, we cry for bread, and scream after we get the bread, "Where's the butter"
When we can just be friends, and let it be, at least for me this is what it is, I see to let it be, free choice to all, and for me to just trust the Creator of all, known to me as Christ's Father and now mine as well, thanks to Christ,
I have the peace that passes all understanding peace and quietness, and that's it folks, love to all
The sad thing, it occurs to me, is that if I am right I will never know it, and you will never know you were wrong.
So if consciousness does not exist after death of the physical body, why are we then here? what is anyone's purpose if there is no existence after death of this flesh?
The existence of this world has gone on for___________________________ what holds that together?
I know the laws of thermodynamics, Heat can not be created, yet it is here, nor can it be destroyed.
It can only be used as it is here for that, problem is: when this is used for bad as good, people stepping on people.
And this is what I see as why God came to earth in the flesh through Son to get us to wake up and LOVE each other in helping each other with what we have to do so with
The heat to me is Father God, and this can not be created nor destroyed, Copied to a big extent, as is what we the people have done and are doing, not saying thank you to the creator of it all, rather taking credit for self
I am a responder in thankfulness to God the creator, that I just know is Christ's Father revealed to me personally by God, whom I have never seen in the flesh, asked God to teach me and all I get back is just love, no matter just love, harm no one, and I agreed, so it be
You know, with free choice, we all are God's when we come of age, we are free to be just that God's of free choice
And as I see from reading the word, the only thing God left for us each is this free choice to believe and trust God's love that he gave to us through Son, forgiven, loved, freed from worry about God's love, but man has turned this around again in religiosity, and is claiming God, and yet not seeing themselves still playing God, there way or the highway
Thanks for listening
Cool and isn't best to just allow each other each others opinion as food for thought, as we all are here stuck here in these bodies are we not, So why not learn from each others side and decide, what are we, me, you in fear of conversion?
There is no fear in love. Love casts out all fear, and if no fear, love has taken over and one is free
And Christ said he came to give us life here more abundantly, I beleive this, where many a people present him and Father as Tyrants, you better do this or this or else, when all we are asked to have compassion one for the other
I guess that is toooooooooooooo simple to just love each other in truth
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That's funny, being of my age:
I am so old I was the servant at the last supper? Cool yeah?
There are many things yet unexplained and just not logical, so there is not more to this earth and what you see physically Heratio?
What is holding this entire universe together, just think if the Sun were any closer we would burn up?
Or if it were further away we would freeze to death, yet it somehow in perfect place for how long now_______________
We all here are on what? The Web, don't get tangled and eaten The World Wide Web, catch it, be free.
Is anything possible, past just what you see, do we see thought? does thought(s) have a creating in themselves?
Whatever thoughts one believes is truth to the one who thinks it as true
For as a man believes in his self so is he, no thoughts nothing to believe?
I should add there is thought one of the books could have originated in the court of soloman, though evidence is sketchy. That would still put it between 970 and 930BC. Still a later whisper
Yet Love to Love all, has not changed has it? That is the forwarding message in all things written is it not?
The freedom is in the understanding of the truth, that is love others as you are loved form God not mankind, as mankind has screwed things up very well and still does in selfishness, not seeing the unselfisheness Mercy of God to us all
And by this it goes on and on and on and on, like a completed circle. And whether or not it goes beyond the creator or not is not mine to go after, getting lost staying lost in that, then deciding there must not be a God.
Well the energy heat is constant and can't created nor destroyed, and this is God, secondly heat can't be manipulated either, it always travels from a warmer spot to a colder one always
And man tries to copy this and change this and can't, So God just is like a circle completed, no beginning and no ending
Okay, how would that make a difference in the fact that there is a creator?
What are we as people still trying to build that tower of babel and storm the gates to kill God, the creator?
The same message is and has been given to all, interpretation of the message is skewed, by selfishness, fixed by
LIFE and love to all
Live, laugh and love, or is that too simple, because of the bad experiences we all have gotten, God the creator is not the one to blame or to be held accountable, message is clear Love all, and evil is killed, the fire goes out when no more wood is put on it, yet the embers do burn for awhile depending on how big that fire got, before putting it out and adding no more wood
If I told you that you have a million dollars in the bank, would you beleive me?
If I showed you, then you would right?
Now would you make withdraws as you need what you needed? Or would you ask the teller what to do?
You see all your needs to this very day have been supplied, whether you or someone else worked for them, has not all your needs been supplied, in your time of need, so far to this very day?
You see you are a million-air, you have everything you need for life and Love inside you to draw on from God, given to you from God the love to all, thanks to his Son to make you right with the creator.
It just is what it is. I never know how I will be sustained, and yet have been, and have been down and out, am still, yet God has still supplied all my needs, I draw on God to supply them, and whether it is through work by me or not God comes through with even more gifts that I ask no one else for. This is and has been more than proven to me
And I am not speaking to not work or make a living, I am saying if you get in a bind that you can't control, there is always God to trust who says he loves you, now that is proven to me, been on top, cut down to the bottom, and every time have seen God's Mercy and love not only to me but to all, as I said have all your needs been supplied to this very day, even in tough times?