Is there such a thing as an atheist?

[mustaphadrink]

In the Providence of God, you enjoy the freedom to exercise what looks like pride and prejudice although I think that humility and kindness would be better choices.

As God is my judge, he will decide on what is pride and prejudice and what is humility and kindness, not you. As I see things, God might just be blessing us for our humility and kindness in telling you the truth rather than let you wallow in your self serving blindness.

Oh and here is a tip. When you stand before the judgment seat of Christ he won't ask you about Joe Blow who is a Christian and what he did or did not do. The questions will be all about you and why you decided you knew better than God.

You can accept that as truth or go into denial and try and brush it off as not relevant. Sorry, brush it off and HOPE that it is not relevant.

 

[mustaphadrink]

I am pretty sure O.J. Simpsons jury proved that to be untrue.

TOUCHE BROTHER TOUCHE!!!

 

[Jda016]

I'm curious. What is proof to an Athiest?

Penicillin heals sick people. You would say there is proof for this, right?

Penicillin works to heal sick people over and over again.

When blind eyes open, people are delivered of demons, and the sick healed within the hour after they have been prayed for in Jesus' name, isn't that similar to the penicillin case?

Praying in Jesus' name works to heal sick people over and over again.

Tens of thousands of testimonies attest to the fact that both these things work. What more "proof" is needed?

 

[IntoTheVoid]

How very interesting. If evidence is something that is deniable to everyone, why is it that evolution which is undeniable evidence to you, is not evidence to millions of people? That must means your belief in that fairy story is nothing more than confirmation bias.

Soooooooo, you need to learn the difference between evidence and confirmation.

By the way, I wasn't confirmed because I don't believe in it. Is that evidence or bias.

P.S. The word in the first line is undeniable, not deniable but for some reason it will not accept the un.

Where have I said I believed in evolution? This has already been covered here.

Pay attention in future.

 

[IntoTheVoid]

I'm curious. What is proof to an Athiest?

Penicillin heals sick people. You would say there is proof for this, right?

Penicillin works to heal sick people over and over again.

When blind eyes open, people are delivered of demons, and the sick healed within the hour after they have been prayed for in Jesus' name, isn't that similar to the penicillin case?

Praying in Jesus' name works to heal sick people over and over again.

Tens of thousands of testimonies attest to the fact that both these things work. What more "proof" is needed?

Tens of thousands attest to alien abductions, millions attest to Allah, many attest to Voodoo, many attest to Scientology.. Need I continue?

As for healing... Is it not a coincidence that Jesus' healing ability is limited by the capabilities of modern medicine? How come Jesus doesn't cure AIDS or Downs Syndrome or grow back amputated limbs? Jesus can only seem to heal what doctors can.


See how it's not 'proof' anymore?

 

[Cycel]

I'm curious. What is proof to an Athiest?

For myself there are no proofs for the non-existence of God, if that is what you are asking about. You cannot prove a negative, but absence of evidence in the affirmative, for me, diminishes the likely-hood of the deity's existence to about zero.

Welcome to the forum Jda.

 

[Cycel]

Like, OMG, are you THE Morpheus???

If you take the red pill, you will find out. Take the blue pill and you will never know. The choice is yours alone. I cannot force this upon you.

LOL! The Matrix is one of my favourite films.

 

[Cycel]

Photosynthesis is attributable to marvelous design. Great works of engineering don't design themselves.... Some things are not only unlikely, they are impossible without intelligent causation.

I would argue that until you understand how God did it you cannot truly claim the process could not come about through natural means.

 

[nl]

I would argue that until you understand how God did it you cannot truly claim the process could not come about through natural means.

We know something long before we know everything and should use what we know.

Organic chemistry, catalysts, light, heat, conversions between energy and matter, chemical bonding, chemical bond dissolution, plants, animals, water, CO2, O2, the "Calvin Cycle", and more are all marvelous.

Buildings have designers and builders. Paintings have painters. Books have authors. Inventions have inventors. Nature has a Creator.

 

[IntoTheVoid]

We know something long before we know everything and should use what we know.

Organic chemistry, catalysts, light, heat, conversions between energy and matter, chemical bonding, chemical bond dissolution, plants, animals, water, CO2, O2, the "Calvin Cycle", and more are all marvelous.

Buildings have designers and builders. Paintings have painters. Books have authors. Inventions have inventors. Nature has a Creator.

Again let's have a look at this poor design. A universe where 99.9 percent of it is fatally uninhabitable and a planet so volatile that 99 percent of all species that have ever lived on it are now extinct.

I challenge you to choose any square block of the universe (except one that contains earth) and find evidence of 'intelligent design' and/or a divine creator. It won't be there.

 

[Brother_Don]

1Corinthians 14:23-25, If therefor the whole church be come together in one place, and all speak with tongues, and there come on those that are unlearned, or unbelievers, will they not say that ye are mad? But if all prophesy, and there come in one that believeth not, or one unlearned, he is convinced of all, he is judged of all: And thus are the secrets of his heart made manifest; and so falling down on his face, he will worship God, and report that God is in you of a truth.

 

[nl]

Again let's have a look at this poor design. A universe where 99.9 percent of it is fatally uninhabitable and a planet so volatile that 99 percent of all species that have ever lived on it are now extinct.

I challenge you to choose any square block of the universe (except one that contains earth) and find evidence of 'intelligent design' and/or a divine creator. It won't be there.

As the Good Book says: "So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them" (Genesis 1:27)

Male and female were intelligent and marvelous design.

The human race could not have moved forward for a single generation without it. I don't see how male and female anatomy could have formed completely and simultaneously by accident and in one generation. My estimation: Not a chance. Impossible.

As you know, male and female are co-dependent on each other in order to enable each new person and next generation to be formed.

Atheists take a position of not believing in God. In order for male and female to form by accident, you must believe in something. You must believe in something to bring about male and female. The dynamics of male and female relationships have made life more interesting (and new life possible).

As the French say: "Vive la difference!".

 

[homwardbound]

Tens of thousands attest to alien abductions, millions attest to Allah, many attest to Voodoo, many attest to Scientology.. Need I continue?

As for healing... Is it not a coincidence that Jesus' healing ability is limited by the capabilities of modern medicine? How come Jesus doesn't cure AIDS or Downs Syndrome or grow back amputated limbs? Jesus can only seem to heal what doctors can.


See how it's not 'proof' anymore?

In the Bible it says he did heal and grow back an arm, hand or whatever it was that was wrong with that man's arm or hand and it is recorded people rose back to life as Lazarus did.
But since you have chosen not to believe the witnesses of the word (Christ) you don't see this as truth, no Faith in it and okay that is your choice, yet you are not loved any less by and from God the creator of all
And or me either since he loved me this much that he died for all sins, so we can have a new life with him who is alive forever more, and does heal still by Faith without a doubt is key to being healed

 

[mustaphadrink]

Where have I said I believed in evolution? This has already been covered here. Pay attention in future.

The proof of the pud is in the eating so to speak.

I have yet to come across an atheist that does not go into bat for evolution. if you don't you must be the first one....ever.

Anyway. It is academic as I have been told more than once that an atheist does not speak for others so what you say is irrelevant to the overall discussion of atheism.

 

[mustaphadrink]

I'm curious. What is proof to an Athiest?

What is proof to an atheist? That is a simple question to answer. What is proof to an atheist is anything that he says is proof whether it is or it isn't. In other words, if he said it it must be true. How do I know. Just read what they say and you have all the evidence you need.

 

[mustaphadrink]

As for healing... Is it not a coincidence that Jesus' healing ability is limited by the capabilities of modern medicine? How come Jesus doesn't cure AIDS or Downs Syndrome or grow back amputated limbs? Jesus can only seem to heal what doctors can. See how it's not 'proof' anymore?

What is that song? "You in your small corner and I in mine."

A friend of mine and his son were in a meeting and when it came to the healing time they were standing next to a teenage boy with only one hand. Whilst prayer was being made for healing over the people that had come forward, they watched the boy grow a second hand.

This happened in a Christian meeting not a hospital.

See how it is proof. However, I should add that sceptics and cynics never believe anything they don't understand and don't want to admit to especially when it blows their pet little theories out of the water.

 

[mustaphadrink]

Again let's have a look at this poor design. A universe where 99.9 percent of it is fatally uninhabitable and a planet so volatile that 99 percent of all species that have ever lived on it are now extinct.

I challenge you to choose any square block of the universe (except one that contains earth) and find evidence of 'intelligent design' and/or a divine creator. It won't be there.

Two things Mr. knowitall.

One. How do you know that 99.9% of the universe is uninhabitable?

Two. As we don't know let alone see what 99% of the universe is made of your question is non sequitir.

And of course you can provide peer reviewed proof that 99% of all species that ever lived are extinct but I won't hold my breath.

 

[mustaphadrink]

We know something long before we know everything and should use what we know.

Organic chemistry, catalysts, light, heat, conversions between energy and matter, chemical bonding, chemical bond dissolution, plants, animals, water, CO2, O2, the "Calvin Cycle", and more are all marvelous.

Buildings have designers and builders. Paintings have painters. Books have authors. Inventions have inventors. Nature has a Creator.

I note that intothevoid has avoided answering your post. All he has done is what most of them do. They pluck something absurd out of the air and expect us to be excited about the straw man. Obviously he cannot cope with reality. He is all goggled eyed with the esoteric and unscientific so much so all he can do is produce nonsensical "gotcha" statements.

 

[Cycel]

We know something long before we know everything and should use what we know.

Organic chemistry, catalysts, light, heat, conversions between energy and matter, chemical bonding, chemical bond dissolution, plants, animals, water, CO2, O2, the "Calvin Cycle", and more are all marvelous.

Marvelous yes, but marvelous is not evidence of a designer.

Buildings have designers and builders. Paintings have painters. Books have authors. Inventions have inventors. Nature has a Creator.

"Nature has a creator"? I can't see it at all. NL, this as assumption that is made on religious grounds. Surely you can see the difference between a watch and an igneous rock? One is a manufactured device, the other is not. If I showed a series of pictures to any 2nd grader: a painting, a watch, a building, a rock, and asked them which one was different, what do you think they'd point to? The fact that you and I disagree at all is evidence of one thing, the matter comes down to belief, and belief is not evidence for anything. I cannot prove to you that God did not create life, but neither can you prove that he did. This is a matter of belief. You are aware, I know, that astronomers around the world are convinced they have a firm grasp on how stars form naturally. The mathematical formulas and models work. It may be that you reject the science, but I don't; someone such as myself just does not see analogies as legitimate arguments for supernatural claims. I may paint portraits, but this does not prove God must paint the sunsets over the desert.

 

[Richie_2uk]

Yes. I believe there is an opposite to everything, Believing=disbelieving. Atheistism=Belief.