And mustafa... I have a tendency to view things from the perspective of reality, not the perspective of myth and magic.
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phil112
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I submit that God is neither myth nor magic. There has to be an explanation for existence, and He is one. There is plenty of circumstantial evidence, if you will, that testifies of intelligent design. That cannot be denied. And those of us that have real experiences to Gods' being shouldn't be dismissed outright.
There is no such thing as "magic" as we know it. Everything has an explanation. Having your mind made up to disbelieve in God is a choice you have made against overwhelming evidence of His existence. All creation testifies of a creator. You better be absolutely convinced you are right. Being wrong is a bad, bad thing. Read Pascals wager and get another atheists viewpoint. Remember the following words:
Everyone tells me there is all this evidence out there but nobody presents any.
And again... There's the threat of punishment , right on cue.
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phil112
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Evidence? Look in the mirror. You have no other explanation that explains you, and everything else, being here. You are way, way up that river de'nile.
This has been said so many times by atheists it has lost any credibility. The fact, is an atheist will not, cannot see the evidence because they don't want to see the evidence. When you get famous ex atheists like Dawkins Brother, Anthony Flew, Malcolm Muggerige, Derek Prince, C.S.Lewis, Peter Hitchens to name a few) saying I did not believe God exists but when I sought the truth with an open mind (something that the average atheist does not comprehend) and as a result acknowledges there is a God and he is alive and then some poor atheists asks for evidence, one is tempted to ask what world he lives in.
Atheists pride themselves on being rational, intelligent and dealing in reality (well, those that don't want evidence but say they do). Yet when one of their own who is acknowledged by ALL to be of superior intelligence presents the reality that atheism is not tenable and that God does exist, what is their response? "Show me the evidence." If their own kind who are of superior intelligence has produced the evidence and they still ask for evidence suggests to me that they are two bricks short of a wall.
The other alternative and this is the one I am going for is that they DON'T WANT EVIDENCE. What they want is to wallow in their laziness and trot out pathetic mantras that make then feel good and avoid having to actually face reality. If they won't believe their own and if they can't dispute their own then their only choice is to live a life of deception.
But then, deception has a habit of deceiving people, especially when you can surf the net and find thousands and thousands of sites that show God does exist and some of them approach it not from a religious perspective but a scientific one.
What all this means is that the atheist who says show me the evidence is actually saying "don't show me the evidence because I don't want my suppositions challenged."
As luck would have it, I am not a believer in superstitions. I leave that to atheists.
As luck would have it, I have avoided the fatal trap of believing in the uber fallacy known as evolution. I will let the atheists revel in that superstition.
As luck would have it, God was gracious enough to give me sufficient intelligence so that I would not fall for the fairy story of evolution. After all, who wants to believe in fairy stories other than children and atheists.
As luck would have it, I have sufficient intelligence to not be duped by atheist claims that God does not exist. I will let the atheists be deceived by that nonsense.
As luck would have it, my brain seems to be working so I can see through atheists mantras like where is the evidence (you know, that which is staring them in the face).
As luck would have it, I haven’t fallen for the atheist survival of the fittest mantra so I don’t have the deaths of millions of innocent babies on my conscience.
As luck would have it, I have never been convinced by that very scientific formula ‘from goo to you via the zoo.’ I will leave that to deceived atheists.
As luck would have it, my ancestors were humans. Sorry to hear about those who had monkeys for ancestors. Perhaps that is why atheists spend so much time monkeying around.
As luck would have it, I have never fallen for the worship of self. I will leave that to the atheists as they have nothing else to live for.
As luck would have it, I have never fallen for the religion of nothing. I will let the atheists go with that one as it must be easy as they have nothing to say of any consequence.
Isn't luck a wonderful thing.
No Mustafa. Evidence is something that's undeniable to everyone. It is not something that you have to be of a certain mindset to see.
You really need to learn the difference between evidence and confirmation bias.
As luck would have it, you obviously have no idea what an atheist is. So thank you for telling my how my life is... But as luck would have it, your totally wrong.
In the Providence of God, you enjoy the freedom to exercise what looks like pride and prejudice although I think that humility and kindness would be better choices.
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phil112
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Romans 8:1 There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit
There is a choice to be born again in the Spirit or not. It is what it is!!!!!!!!!!!! And all will have had their free choice to consciously believe and trust God or not. That is the Mercy of God tha tis given to all men to make a choice as to who they will serve man or God.
In a nutshell that is what it is, love to all God does just love you, man does not
It's a shame that after a long discussion about this, it ends with theists hurling insults and threatening people with eternal torture.
It's your legacy guys, not ours.
It's your legacy guys, not ours.
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phil112
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I must have missed something. Care to point out where someone threatened you?
How very interesting. If evidence is something that is deniable to everyone, why is it that evolution which is undeniable evidence to you, is not evidence to millions of people? That must means your belief in that fairy story is nothing more than confirmation bias.
Soooooooo, you need to learn the difference between evidence and confirmation.
By the way, I wasn't confirmed because I don't believe in it. Is that evidence or bias.
P.S. The word in the first line is undeniable, not deniable but for some reason it will not accept the un.
As luck would have it, neither do you and as God is my judge, he will decide what is right and wrong, not you.
Once again you show your ignorance and confirmation bias. The eternal torture you speak about has nothing to do with insults. It is a fact spoken of in scripture so your argument is not with us it is with God so I don't fancy your chances.
And saying it is our legacy, not yours, where is your evidence for that claim?
Like most of what you say, you don't have any as your comments are usually shoot from the lip to make you sound important.
But I have to admit you are good for a laugh. Just think about it. You come onto a Christian website that is dedicated to God and his word and spend all your time trying to convince us that God does not exist because you say so. if that isn't stupid and good for a laugh I don't know what is.
In addition, with virtually no knowledge or understanding of the word of God, you plaster the pages with the idea that you are a world authority on the scriptures and us christians haven't a clue. I am still rolling in the aisle with that one.
If that wasn't enough, you really believe that by spewing your lies and falsehoods, you really think we are going to stop being christians and become atheists. My sides are aching so much with laughing.
And to cap it all off, you take every opportunity to tell us how righteous and perfect you are. I give up. I can't laugh any more. I am all laughed out.
And the funniest thing of all is that you will come back with some inane and childish comment to counteract the truth to massage a damaged ego.