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Misty77

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From a tactical standpoint, it's a private school. I'm sure there's an agreement signed by the parents saying that all enrollment/expulsion decisions are ultimately up to the school's administrators. Also, she was 16 when this happened. A 16 year old can't get a "donation" or surrogacy if I'm not mistaken.

Bible wise, suing is not meant for us. We aren't meant to engage in that kind of behavior, even in severe cases.

1 Corinthians 6:7

"[SUP]7 [/SUP]Now therefore there is utterly a fault among you, because ye go to law one with another. Why do ye not rather take wrong? why do ye not rather suffer yourselves to be defrauded?"
I expanded upon the school situation to make it more widely applicable Since I work for a Christian ministry, we have what is called the "promiscuity clause." That means we can be fired for how we live outside of work, and I would be fired if I ever got pregnant because it would be assumed that the pregnancy was due to fornication.

Lawsuits should never be the first choice of believers, or any people for that matter, but it is how we can prevent people from doing the same bad thing to others. Also, the context of Corinthians is that they were robbing each other in court, not just pressing charges (there is a difference). In the modern legal system, it's the difference between frivolous lawsuits (bad) and seeking justice (good).
 
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I expanded upon the school situation to make it more widely applicable Since I work for a Christian ministry, we have what is called the "promiscuity clause." That means we can be fired for how we live outside of work, and I would be fired if I ever got pregnant because it would be assumed that the pregnancy was due to fornication.

Lawsuits should never be the first choice of believers, or any people for that matter, but it is how we can prevent people from doing the same bad thing to others. Also, the context of Corinthians is that they were robbing each other in court, not just pressing charges (there is a difference). In the modern legal system, it's the difference between frivolous lawsuits (bad) and seeking justice (good).
I don't agree with the context issue at allll. lol, there's really no need to get indepth to hash that one out. I don't wanna bump heads with you sis. Just putting out food for thought :p. What a person chooses to do is their choice, none of my business ultimately.

Either way a person chooses to respond, what the school did is wrong.....no denying that. That's interesting on the promiscuity clause. Do they have a drunkenness clause as well? I would find it odd if you couldn't fornicate and keep your job, yet you can go get as hammered as you like with no penalty. lol
 

Misty77

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I don't agree with the context issue at allll. lol, there's really no need to get indepth to hash that one out. I don't wanna bump heads with you sis. Just putting out food for thought :p. What a person chooses to do is their choice, none of my business ultimately.

Either way a person chooses to respond, what the school did is wrong.....no denying that. That's interesting on the promiscuity clause. Do they have a drunkenness clause as well? I would find it odd if you couldn't fornicate and keep your job, yet you can go get as hammered as you like with no penalty. lol
yup, we do.
 

just_monicat

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ok, i've got to ask. do you have a sin clause? : ) oh, and i'm going to take a wild guess and say you're from...texas?

come to a liberal state. i'd like to see how long that would last here.
 
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GreenNnice

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statistically, seahawks always held the edge. previous to this SB, there have been four other times where the team with the best defense played against the team with best offense. three out of four of those matchups resulted in the team with the best defense taking the trophy.

or as my dad says, youth/speed almost always beats experience, unfortunately. however, i have no stats on that. : )
True, monnycat, the old saying rings true one more time, 'Defense wins championships, just like your dear ole daddy-O said, in so many words :)

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That's good insight from your dad, too. The Seahawks appeared faster on a lot of plays, which a term for that is called 'team speed.' Little story for you. The University of Washington Huskies lost to Miami back in mid 80s (1987) and after that loss, coach Don James noticed that the Hurricane players were a step faster than our guys, pound for pound and player for player. After that, James drafted, er, recruited, or, 'scholarshiped,' is the best word, players who were 'faster' than they were 'bigger,' not that they weren't athletic and big , but, speed was the #1 emphasis. And, by that philosophy, the Huskies built a team that went on to be a dominant team in college football the next several years, 1989 starting, including the national championship win in 1991. :)
 
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I work in ministry as well, and while we don't have formal clauses, we are expected to conduct ourselves in a godly way in our private lives, and I think that's a good thing. I'd say the same about the members of a church, or even the students of a Christian school. (Church members living openly in chronic and unrepentant sin need to be confronted in love.) Church discipline and expectations have fallen by the wayside in a sad way in many churches. So while I do think it's wrong to kick a girl out of a school for becoming pregnant, I can see the reason behind it. They don't want other students to think premarital sex is okay. But there has to be a better way to approach this without sacrificing a girl who needs support and encouragement more than ever in her life, while ignoring other students who are also likely having sex. I wonder if the father of the child also went to the school, and if he was dismissed as well.
 
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iTOREtheSKY

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Random life updates from iTOREtheSKY #9827341

Hi all! Just taking a moment to let everyone know I survived my nearly 14hr trip to NY.
So yeah. Here I am. Sitting here alone in my friends apartment while he's at work,and grateful in a way to be far from Maine,but still feeling displaced...trying to put on a brave face.

He's not a Christian...actually he doesn't believe in God,but he's always been one of those people that is "ok" with me being a Christian. lol I guess 'cause I've never tried to be all preachy at him or whatever. I think he's one of those well if there is a God then...yadda yadda yadda? Being back here is pretty unsettling in an odd way. Thing's have changed around here for sure,as to be expected.

So yeah,I don't know what I'm saying...I'm just sad...for many reasons...none of which I will go into. Thing's will pan out eventually. I won't be here long. God is faithful.
Just wanted to say hi.:)
 
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GreenNnice

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I edited this , monnycat, and, then my five minutes were up so, I put all blame on my green brains for not writing quite quickly enough. Missed it by THAT MUCH :D

but, yeah, I explained the UW, but, then was explaining Coach Carroll's philosophy with the Seahawks for their success, and, one other thing that greatly contributed to a championship season.

statistically, seahawks always held the edge. previous to this SB, there have been four other times where the team with the best defense played against the team with best offense. three out of four of those matchups resulted in the team with the best defense taking the trophy.

or as my dad says, youth/speed almost always beats experience, unfortunately. however, i have no stats on that. : )

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Seahawks philosophy of coach Pete Carroll was not only speed, but, also, even more emphasized was 'winner' mentality. Carroll drafted, picked up (free agent) players who wanted to win and would do whatever it takes to win, and, along with that 'mental toughness' sought, was physicality went for by Coach C.
Denver's receivers in SB were scared of running crossing routes in the middle of the field by the end of the first half, because of our secondary, including, proof, Denver running back ,Knowshon Moreno. He was hit so hard in the ribs in the 2nd quarter, crunched by two of our secondary guys, that he didn't even want to go out there again after that. And, didn't, he chose to stand on the sidelines than play in the rest of the SB.
That was a huge hit--pun intended--to Denver's chances right there, in the 2nd quarter, with Moreno no longer a threat running, our defense could totally concentrate on sacking Manning and expecting the pass.
Carroll also spent time in Watts, south side of LA, of drugs, gang, and, helped kids a lot; this kind of sacrifice I think was seen by many players, and, that earned him respect with a lot of players, he did things in Seattle too but we just don't have gangs like LA. But, all the players were 'in' on his philosophy. Bought in to his tougness and mentality goals and this started 4 seasons ago when he and team president John Schneider began drafting players and getting free agents . We should be good next several years, too, being tied for youngest team in SB.

Fodder for you and your dad to discuss, I guess . The Lord leads :)
 
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lil_christian

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With everything we have survived, my son's grades really suffered, too. Plus, he has a bit of a learning difference that causes him to be distracted really easily and will just shut down if he gets too stressed. He can do the work but is just not able to thrive in a public school setting. He needs small class sizes and interactive learning environments.

You would think that reaching out to the Christian community would be one of the best resources, but too many of them act like divorce is contagious. I'm not even asking for financial aid or other special treatment at this point. It's frustrating to have to constantly be fighting for my son to just be treated like other kids.
I get that way, too. If I get overwhelmed I'll shut down. It's not something I want to do, but it's hard when all you can think is "I can't do this I can't do this" and you're internally in freak-out mode. I do a digital academy so if I get too stressed I can walk away and take a breather, or I can get tutoring. Unfortunately, it doesn't sound like you have that option.

Sometimes learning difficulties can, well...be difficult. But learning difficulties don't equal disaster. :) Everyone has a unique way of learning. Some methods will work for certain subjects, and others won't. I think if the teacher is willing to realize that, then you all will be able to get somewhere.

That is terrible that they're giving you a hard time. I truly hope that they realize that sometimes, you cannot avoid divorce. Not that divorce is great, but sometimes, you're left with no other option. God knows that. They should, too. No condemnation in Christ. :)
 

just_monicat

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I edited this , monnycat, and, then my five minutes were up so, I put all blame on my green brains for not writing quite quickly enough. Missed it by THAT MUCH :D

but, yeah, I explained the UW, but, then was explaining Coach Carroll's philosophy with the Seahawks for their success, and, one other thing that greatly contributed to a championship season.




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Seahawks philosophy of coach Pete Carroll was not only speed, but, also, even more emphasized was 'winner' mentality. Carroll drafted, picked up (free agent) players who wanted to win and would do whatever it takes to win, and, along with that 'mental toughness' sought, was physicality went for by Coach C.
Denver's receivers in SB were scared of running crossing routes in the middle of the field by the end of the first half, because of our secondary, including, proof, Denver running back ,Knowshon Moreno. He was hit so hard in the ribs in the 2nd quarter, crunched by two of our secondary guys, that he didn't even want to go out there again after that. And, didn't, he chose to stand on the sidelines than play in the rest of the SB.
That was a huge hit--pun intended--to Denver's chances right there, in the 2nd quarter, with Moreno no longer a threat running, our defense could totally concentrate on sacking Manning and expecting the pass.
Carroll also spent time in Watts, south side of LA, of drugs, gang, and, helped kids a lot; this kind of sacrifice I think was seen by many players, and, that earned him respect with a lot of players, he did things in Seattle too but we just don't have gangs like LA. But, all the players were 'in' on his philosophy. Bought in to his tougness and mentality goals and this started 4 seasons ago when he and team president John Schneider began drafting players and getting free agents . We should be good next several years, too, being tied for youngest team in SB.

Fodder for you and your dad to discuss, I guess . The Lord leads :)
yeah, i would agree that moreno's hit was a turning point. i really am sort of surprised when people called this superbowl boring or not good. there were a few plays (you know which ones) that were truly exciting moments.

my primary shared hobby with my dad has been sports since i was a little girl. he was taking me to candlestick when i was 7. he's a big 49'ers fan (growing up in the bay area) and stanford since he played for them. it's been a cool bonding thing for us, because he had a lot of travel associated with his job, and eventually so did i. so we started this tradition of going to as many different stadiums as we could, and of course enjoy the games, mostly baseball and football. i have some amazing memories. for example, one year he surprised me for my birthday with tickets to the inaugural game when camden yards first opened, which incidentally occurred on my birthday. and we always plan a trip during march madness. i've lost count on the stadiums, but it's been a fun way to meet up and enjoy hanging out together.

so yeah, i have this massive amount of sport info/stats that i've passively acquired over years and years. hopefully it's not displacing info that i actually need... : )
 
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GreenNnice

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I get that way, too. If I get overwhelmed I'll shut down. It's not something I want to do, but it's hard when all you can think is "I can't do this I can't do this" and you're internally in freak-out mode. I do a digital academy so if I get too stressed I can walk away and take a breather, or I can get tutoring. Unfortunately, it doesn't sound like you have that option.

Sometimes learning difficulties can, well...be difficult. But learning difficulties don't equal disaster. :) Everyone has a unique way of learning. Some methods will work for certain subjects, and others won't. I think if the teacher is willing to realize that, then you all will be able to get somewhere.

That is terrible that they're giving you a hard time. I truly hope that they realize that sometimes, you cannot avoid divorce. Not that divorce is great, but sometimes, you're left with no other option. God knows that. They should, too. No condemnation in Christ. :)
You can't do it, nor, are you supposed to; He wants us to rely on Him, the trials of our life are for our growth in our Christian walks and serving Him so we can persevere. 'Persevere,' that's a big word, and, 'suffering' is in it, and, we are to experience suffering when we are going through trials in life, through that "testing of our faith," as James 1:2-3 tell us. God shuts us down, sometimes, too, with sickness, or, a loss of a job, or, friend, even, so we can get away and go to Him and see what He's wanting to start us up on next, or, just refresh us, so, that we can continue with what we were doing and not blow up.

Go to Him when things are overwhelming and He will be there to get you through the trial, through the test, for our Lord God Jesus knows perfect to bless :)
 
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GreenNnice

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yeah, i would agree that moreno's hit was a turning point. i really am sort of surprised when people called this superbowl boring or not good. there were a few plays (you know which ones) that were truly exciting moments.

my primary shared hobby with my dad has been sports since i was a little girl. he was taking me to candlestick when i was 7. he's a big 49'ers fan (growing up in the bay area) and stanford since he played for them. it's been a cool bonding thing for us, because he had a lot of travel associated with his job, and eventually so did i. so we started this tradition of going to as many different stadiums as we could, and of course enjoy the games, mostly baseball and football. i have some amazing memories. for example, one year he surprised me for my birthday with tickets to the inaugural game when camden yards first opened, which incidentally occurred on my birthday. and we always plan a trip during march madness. i've lost count on the stadiums, but it's been a fun way to meet up and enjoy hanging out together.

so yeah, i have this massive amount of sport info/stats that i've passively acquired over years and years. hopefully it's not displacing info that i actually need... : )
 
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lil_christian

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Very true, Green. :)


Anyways. I'm applying for financial aid right now. I kind of wish I knew what my school guidance counselor is doing. Because he hasn't sent out my transcripts. Not good. I mean, I know I'll be done hopefully by early to mid next month. But. Until then...can we PLEASE get this show on the road? I wanna go to colleeegge. Finally get a bit of independence and a good education. Learn some important life lessons. Well that actually doesn't sound so fun. Anyways! I wanna go to college. Make new friends (not boyfriends, though. Go to college to get a well-rounded education, not a romantic interest)!
 
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GreenNnice

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yeah, i would agree that moreno's hit was a turning point. i really am sort of surprised when people called this superbowl boring or not good. there were a few plays (you know which ones) that were truly exciting moments.

my primary shared hobby with my dad has been sports since i was a little girl. he was taking me to candlestick when i was 7. he's a big 49'ers fan (growing up in the bay area) and stanford since he played for them. it's been a cool bonding thing for us, because he had a lot of travel associated with his job, and eventually so did i. so we started this tradition of going to as many different stadiums as we could, and of course enjoy the games, mostly baseball and football. i have some amazing memories. for example, one year he surprised me for my birthday with tickets to the inaugural game when camden yards first opened, which incidentally occurred on my birthday. and we always plan a trip during march madness. i've lost count on the stadiums, but it's been a fun way to meet up and enjoy hanging out together.

so yeah, i have this massive amount of sport info/stats that i've passively acquired over years and years. hopefully it's not displacing info that i actually need... : )
Wow.

Camden Yards. March Madness. Stadium hopping.

Cool trees :D (That's like 'cool beans,' but, with a 'cardinal' twist)

Yeah, monnycat, sounds like you have been given a great dad by your Father. Praise The Lord !
 
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GreenNnice

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Very true, Green. :)


Anyways. I'm applying for financial aid right now. I kind of wish I knew what my school guidance counselor is doing. Because he hasn't sent out my transcripts. Not good. I mean, I know I'll be done hopefully by early to mid next month. But. Until then...can we PLEASE get this show on the road? I wanna go to colleeegge. Finally get a bit of independence and a good education. Learn some important life lessons. Well that actually doesn't sound so fun. Anyways! I wanna go to college. Make new friends (not boyfriends, though. Go to college to get a well-rounded education, not a romantic interest)!
The Lord leads, littleC. Zero your focus on Him, for everything, boys included, He will never leave you nor forsake you. Times will be a-changin' for you in college, from homeschooling to there, but, God will be there with you every step of the way if you are with Him. And, your gifts are a-plenty, musically, and, otherwise, so, don't get doubt for a second to have faith that God has 'great' plans for you, milady, way beyond this coming blip in time called 'college' that, in it, if you listen and obey and sacrifice and follow, will be greatly rewarded :)
 

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I'm sick, husband is sick, two children who can't use a stove are healthy. Take out here we come!
 
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keep_on_smiling

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Since the snow is coming, I'm hoping for a SNOW DAY! :)
 
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iTOREtheSKY

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Hope you feel better soon Fenner. Buy hey...YaY for take out!:)
 

lil_christian

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I'm a somewhat healthy kid who'll be using the stove tonight O.O

Sometimes I'm a great cook. Other days you don't want it!!! lol