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tripsin

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Our founding fathers largely were not Christian, and the few who were, largely followed worldly philosophies when determining how to establish a government. Just as the justification for removing native Americans was founded upon worldly philosophies regarding property ownership.
It's actually the other way around. Most were Christian and those who weren't, like Jefferson, and I believe Franklin, had been raised Christian so they were friendly to the Judeo-Christian philosophies. They weren't mean and nasty like the secularists are today.
 
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J-Kay-2

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A prayer for America:

Thank You, Lord, for this nation and for
the freedoms we enjoy here. Give us the
courage to preserve our precious liberties
and the strength to share them with the
oppressed people around the world. May
we speak out against injustice and oppression
of every kind. And, may the flame of freedom
that burns brightly here in America be a
beacon for the entire world to see. ~Amen
{From: A Grateful Nation}
 
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J-Kay-2

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People forget also, that at the end of 2008 when everything went belly-up (with much help from the Dodd/Frank mess), the democrats had the majority in the House and the Senate for those last two years before Obama - then held the same for his first two years in office getting the so called 'Affordable' Health Care Act passed (without one Repub vote).

And where were the Repubs in the debate? No where, not because they said 'no' but because Nancy Pelosi leader in the House would not let any of the Repubs bills and/or amendments come to the floor. And now that the Repubs are able to pass bills in the House, Harry Reid won't let them come to the floor in the Senate.

The Dems and Obama have worked it really keen: "It's our way or the highway and if you don't go along with it, then you are the party of 'no'."

So when you look at the whole from 2006 to 2013 under Democrat control, how's it going for you?

Very well said. A house divided can not stand. A person who thinks he is a LEADER
has just done that. He has made himself a 'god' over all. After all he did bring the
change he promised. God will give us a government we deserve.
 
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I have no problem with a party of no. Its conservative, small government.

I think Boston harbor needs more tea.
 
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There once was a man, his name was Adolf Hitler!
There once were men, brave enough to get rid of him.
Sad to say, a country that can't dethrone an Adolf Hitler, has lost all the brave men that can't put the country together again!
 
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J-Kay-2

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No O is not Hitler. Hitler "died." O "lied." I see your age and
I am certain you have knowledge of the beginning of Hitlers life.
You certainly must have seen the people fawn over him. He had
delusions of grandeur. The ability to charm his way into the hearts
of those who wanted to believe what he was saying was true.
You know the history and the devastation.

I assume you have reason to believe in Obama. That is your right.

I stand on what I have known to be lies from the first day he showed
his face. I will remember always a woman who posted the day he first
took his oath, she was teaching her 3rd grade class and was ooohing
and aaaahing to the class. She was saying... do you feel it ? She was
feeling something supernatural and it was not from God. From that
point on it was like he drew his strength from something inhumane.
This is my opinion. I have no good thing I can say in his defense, except
to say he is being manipulated by evil forces. People wanted change.
Well, 2014 is here and it is going to be a rough ride. Again, just my opinion.
 
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I am staunchly against ourr president, his polices, morals and ideals.

To classify this buffoon as a Hitler gives president Obama too much credit. Hitler galvanized a small defeated country to almost taking over the world.

All Obama has done is pass a foolish law, lied about it and has so many scandals he makes Richard Nixon look like a choir boy.

Don't fall for the hype from the Obama supporting leftist and now exposed shill for the democrat party, the news. Obama is dead politically. He does not have the clout to fundamentally change our nation into religious intolerance.

Unfortunately he is laying the foundation for those who will and has duped many a person into believing his marxist secular agendas.

I think the bible should change the definition of a fool, those who do not believe, into those who vote for liberals ( republican or democrat )

Maybe some christians are liberal because they want to usher the end times in faster...its the only logical deduction.
 
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tripsin

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Very well said. A house divided can not stand. A person who thinks he is a LEADER
has just done that. He has made himself a 'god' over all. After all he did bring the
change he promised. God will give us a government we deserve.
We're praying for it. Only time will tell. The only other things is, if we don't get it - being part of God's plan, then we have to say amen.:)
 

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I am staunchly against ourr president, his polices, morals and ideals.

To classify this buffoon as a Hitler gives president Obama too much credit. Hitler galvanized a small defeated country to almost taking over the world.

All Obama has done is pass a foolish law, lied about it and has so many scandals he makes Richard Nixon look like a choir boy.

Don't fall for the hype from the Obama supporting leftist and now exposed shill for the democrat party, the news. Obama is dead politically. He does not have the clout to fundamentally change our nation into religious intolerance.

Unfortunately he is laying the foundation for those who will and has duped many a person into believing his marxist secular agendas.

I think the bible should change the definition of a fool, those who do not believe, into those who vote for liberals ( republican or democrat )

Maybe some christians are liberal because they want to usher the end times in faster...its the only logical deduction.
Your blind hatred of liberals know no end. Its honestly amazing how much a professed christian can still manage to hate a group of th population so much and feel he still is following his religious beliefs...
 
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tripsin

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Your blind hatred of liberals know no end. Its honestly amazing how much a professed christian can still manage to hate a group of th population so much and feel he still is following his religious beliefs...
When the truth hurts, it's hate speech. Ever notice that?
 
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Your blind hatred of liberals know no end. Its honestly amazing how much a professed christian can still manage to hate a group of th population so much and feel he still is following his religious beliefs...
I have absolutely no hatred of liberals...but it is perfectly liberal to resort to name calling when there is no foundation to your ideology.

Liberals tend to be low information voters. Liberals worship their emotions over facts. I do not hate liberals, though I do hate liberalism.
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I pity them.
 

Nautilus

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Have you ever thought perhaps Liberals think that thats the way things should be though? I don't much care about the fiscal/economic side of things but socially I do think liberals are correct when compared to conservatives.
 
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J-Kay-2

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I am staunchly against ourr president, his polices, morals and ideals.

To classify this buffoon as a Hitler gives president Obama too much credit. Hitler galvanized a small defeated country to almost taking over the world.

All Obama has done is pass a foolish law, lied about it and has so many scandals he makes Richard Nixon look like a choir boy.

Don't fall for the hype from the Obama supporting leftist and now exposed shill for the democrat party, the news. Obama is dead politically. He does not have the clout to fundamentally change our nation into religious intolerance.

Unfortunately he is laying the foundation for those who will and has duped many a person into believing his marxist secular agendas.

I think the bible should change the definition of a fool, those who do not believe, into those who vote for liberals ( republican or democrat )

Maybe some christians are liberal because they want to usher the end times in faster...its the only logical deduction.
Wonderful explanation .... Finally I understand what you are saying and I agree
with you 100%. My husband and I were Dems for many years, but when O began
to run for President, we changed affiliations. Then when the lies began pouring
out like poison, we went to the Independent.

One thing you say is maybe we want to usher in the end times faster, that would
be good provided we do have a pre-trib.


I never knew a leader could possibly lead our Country and get away with what
he is doing. Do we see him being hailed as King Hitler, No, we don't .... but I do
believe he is fore runner for antichrist. He had to mess up our Country so the
antichrist can come in as a peace maker.
Thank you for clearing up what I
could not understand.



 

PennEd

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Wonderful explanation .... Finally I understand what you are saying and I agree
with you 100%. My husband and I were Dems for many years, but when O began
to run for President, we changed affiliations. Then when the lies began pouring
out like poison, we went to the Independent.

One thing you say is maybe we want to usher in the end times faster, that would
be good provided we do have a pre-trib.


I never knew a leader could possibly lead our Country and get away with what
he is doing. Do we see him being hailed as King Hitler, No, we don't .... but I do
believe he is fore runner for antichrist. He had to mess up our Country so the
antichrist can come in as a peace maker.
Thank you for clearing up what I
could not understand.

It's funny you should say you switched political affiliation in 08. I knew very early on that we had a wicked, evil man in obama. So even though my arm long ago told me it would fall off if I ever pulled a Democrat lever, I actually registered as a Democrat just for the primaries in 08 and voted for asherah, er... hillary, believing that not only would she be the weaker Dem candidate, but should she win the general election she would not be as effective as obama in promoting Democrat evil policies because the cry of misogyny would not work as well as the constant drumbeat garbage call of racism if you disagree with any policy.


I prayed I was gonna be proven wrong. Alas that I wasn't.
 
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The thing is you cannot separate liberal fiscal principles from their social agendas. Big government needs funding and in that, they fail.

Liberal social ideals are not compassionate, all they accomplish are two things...

the opposite they say they want to accomplish and the most important reason why there are liberals..

liberalism makes you feel good. It gives the impression it cares and compassionate people fall for it. What liberalism actually does is the opposite.

In supporting liberal social ideals, and implimenting them, you cause the poverties and social ''injustices'' you are trying to stop.

Please if you believe in liberalism, look up what marxism is. They are the same.

Feeling good about yourself is not a bad thing. When feeling good about yourself causes more hurt, that's a problem.

That's why I say liberalism is satanic. It takes the biblical principle of charity and perverts it into power for a few, the liberal elite ( investigate the wealth of liberals in congress and how much more rich they have become after they came to congress ) and even worse, because of wealth being taken away from those who can wield it and giving it to those who cannot, this charity actually causes the poverties, the liberal ideal says it wants to cure.

Liberalism is NOT compassionate. In fact its the exact opposite. That is evil. It might make you feel good to support a law that supposedly helps the poor, but the implementation of it, actually causes more people to lose jobs, creating more poverty.

Now why would the liberal elite want more poor people, afterall they say they are for the poor, right? See if they really put a dent into poverty? Politically, they will lose power.

We all know liberal politicians want bigger government with more power for themselves. The ONLY way to accomplish this...is to create more poor. More class warfare. More bigotry and intolerance.

Everything a liberal politician says they want to eliminate from the world, poverty and bigotry, they need for political power.

I know. Its not easy to live a life of integrity. Integrity is a hard sell today. Another reason why conservatism is waning. Responsibility and honor and respect, and sweat are difficult concepts to sell politically.

We must. I know many christians hope the world goes to hell so Jesus comes back. So they sit by and let marxism and socialism come. The destruction of good. The thing is...we were called to be stewards.

Fight the good fight.
 

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socially I do think liberals are correct when compared to conservatives.
One of the biggest misconceptions liberals have. I agree with SonInMe's latest post for the most part. I have been very tempted to join the liberal side, but when I think about it there is no fundamental reason to join it other than to feel good about myself and curry the favor and respect of the rest of the world. Redistribution of wealth works fine on a small scale, but I am against it on the government-level. Many conservatives pay a tithe, and that tithe often times isn't just 10%. There are also Christian charities that give aid to the less fortunate of different beliefs without preaching the Gospel to them if you have a problem with that.

But I'm all for small government and privately-run charities. I have no problem with humanitarian aid. But I do have a problem with giving a few political elite more power over the masses, increasing corruption and throwing my money away in an inefficient bureaucracy. And it is this that conservatives wish to avoid when social programs come up. However, they do NOT want to avoid donations to charities and humanitarian aid. The liberal side is VERY tempting, but it is also ruled by emotion - not logic. imo.
 
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Conservatives Give More to Charity than Liberals? - Casting Stones

Conservatives, those selfish bigoted greedy fools the liberals say they are? Funny thing...conservatives give more in time AND money than liberals do....in a study done to prove liberals give more.

Funny thing about integrity and personal responsibility vs, let the government steal from the rich and, after taking their cut, give to the poor. Integrity and personal responsibility...actually is...

MORE CHRISTIAN.

Not to fear though. Liberals will win the day, until Jesus comes back.

For those who believe the gap between the rich and poor has widened and blame selfish greedy conservatives for it...oh I forgot to mention white since race is so crucial to the propa...I mean foundation of liberalism.....that gap? That gap that gives you such concerns????

Its widened as we become more and more liberal. Conservatism is waning. You are winning...and....

causing economic collapse. Look at Detroit, democrat run for years and years.

Look at Spain.

Look at Greece. All poster childs for liberal thought.

I know, its the same ol' excses...they did not do it right. No in fact they did. Its not a matter of doing it better. Its a matter of the ideology is corrupt and satanic.

You will win. Its a part of human nature to be bigoted, and blame other people for our own faults. Yes, liberalism will win...

and we will all lose
 

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Conservatives Give More to Charity than Liberals? - Casting Stones

Conservatives, those selfish bigoted greedy fools the liberals say they are? Funny thing...conservatives give more in time AND money than liberals do....in a study done to prove liberals give more.

Funny thing about integrity and personal responsibility vs, let the government steal from the rich and, after taking their cut, give to the poor. Integrity and personal responsibility...actually is...

MORE CHRISTIAN.

Not to fear though. Liberals will win the day, until Jesus comes back.

For those who believe the gap between the rich and poor has widened and blame selfish greedy conservatives for it...oh I forgot to mention white since race is so crucial to the propa...I mean foundation of liberalism.....that gap? That gap that gives you such concerns????

Its widened as we become more and more liberal. Conservatism is waning. You are winning...and....

causing economic collapse. Look at Detroit, democrat run for years and years.

Look at Spain.

Look at Greece. All poster childs for liberal thought.

I know, its the same ol' excses...they did not do it right. No in fact they did. Its not a matter of doing it better. Its a matter of the ideology is corrupt and satanic.

You will win. Its a part of human nature to be bigoted, and blame other people for our own faults. Yes, liberalism will win...

and we will all lose
You can shop around and find the study you most like. :)

This says they both are the same just different charities.

Study: Conservatives and liberals are equally charitable, but they give to different charities

Maybe someone can tell me what this is about?

Stop Conservative attacks on charities - Liberal.ca