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Hizikyah

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Ephesins 1:18-21, "Asking, that since the eyes of your understanding have been enlightened, that you may know what is the hope of His calling, and what are the riches of His glory among the saints; And what is the exceeding greatness of His power within us who believe, according to the energy of His mighty power. Which He exerted in the Messiah when He raised Him from the dead, and set Him at His own right hand in the heavens, Far above all principality, power, and might; and those who rule, and above every name that is named, not only in this age, but also in that which is to come."
 

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Yahchanan (John) 8:31, "...If you continue in My doctrine, then you are truly My disciples."
 
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Yahchanan (John) 8:31, "...If you continue in My doctrine, then you are truly My disciples."
Thanks for starting this thread Hizikyah. Jesus Christ has perfect doctrine--He's God--I follow Him! :)

Luke 9:23And he said to [them] all, If any [man] will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.
 

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Thanks for starting this thread Hizikyah. Jesus Christ has perfect doctrine--He's God--I follow Him! :)

Luke 9:23And he said to [them] all, If any [man] will come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross daily, and follow me.
Likewise!

I know its a daily fight but we must do His will not ours!

No matter when or how much we mess up we need to seek to serve Him and His will! I say this to myself!

Luke 5:27-28, "After these things He went out and saw a publican, a Levite, sitting in the office of the tax collector, and He said to him: Follow Me. And he left everything, got up, and followed Him."

May Yahweh give us all the strength to do the same.
 
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Acts 16:30 And brought them out, and said, Sirs, what must I do to be saved?
Acts 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.


BELIEVE!
BELIEVE THE WORD OF GOD!

Genesis
Gen 1:1 In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
Do you believe?
Or do you worship your Biology teacher who flunked out of medical school talk about monkeys?

Exodus
Exo 20:8 Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy.
Exo 20:9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:
Exo 20:10 But the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God:

Do you believe?
Or do you listen to the man who calls himself God that they changed Gods law and made another day? You worship who?

Leviticus
Lev 11:7 And the swine, though he divide the hoof, and be clovenfooted, yet he cheweth not the cud; he is unclean to you.
Lev 11:8 Of their flesh shall ye not eat, and their carcase shall ye not touch; they are unclean to you.

Believe ye Gods word?
He says the flesh is unclean, doesnt say anything about JEWS of GENTILES he says it will kill you

Numbers
Num 5:6 Speak unto the children of Israel, When a man or woman shall commit any sin that men commit, to do a trespass against the LORD, and that person be guilty;
Num 5:7 Then they shall confess their sin which they have done: and he shall recompense his trespass with the principal thereof, and add unto it the fifth part thereof, and give it unto him against whom he hath trespassed.

Dont go to jail, PAY BACK THE CRIME PLUS ONE FIFTH MORE
do you believe?

Every Bible chapter tests you wether you believe
do you believe?
To have eternal life you have to believe

all evolutionists will not go to heaven
fact
doesnt leave a lot does it
how many are going?
those that believe
I suggest reading your Bible fromnt to back and telling Lord
yes, I believe and I do all the things you told me because I love you.

hundreds of doctrines in th Bible
I went to a church once and they said

we have 27 fundamental doctrines in our church!

and I thought
wow, they dont believe the Bible
my Bible has thousands of doctrines
and I will follow it

Because it is the way of Love

do you believe?
or do you excuse?

Only JEsus knows your heart.
 

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Luke 6:46, "And why call Me; Master! Master! and do not the things which I say?"
 

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Mattithyah 5:20-30, ""For I say to you: Unless your righteousness exceeds the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you will certainly not enter into the Kingdom of Yahweh. You have heard that it was said by the people of ancient times: You shall not murder, and whoever murders will be in danger of the judgment; But I say to you: Whoever is angry with his brother will be in danger of the judgment! Again, anyone who says; Raca! insulting your brother, will be in danger of the Sanhedrin, but whoever says: Nabel! desiring them to fall away, will be in danger of the fire of Gehenna. Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar, and there you remember that your brother has something against you; Leave your gift there before the altar, and go first and be reconciled with your brother; then come and offer your gift. Settle a controversy with your accuser quickly, before he gets you into court; or your adversary may deliver you to the judge, the judge deliver you to the officer, and you be put into prison. Truly I say to you: You will never come out of there until you have paid the last penny. You have heard that it was said by the people of ancient times: You shall not commit adultery; But I say to you: Whoever looks on a woman with lust for her, has already committed adultery with her in his heart. So if your right eye causes you to offend; sin, gouge it out and throw it from you! For it is better for you that one of your members perish, than for the whole body to be cast into Gehenna. Or if your right hand causes you to offend, cut it off and throw it from you! For it is better for you that one of your members perish, than for the whole body to be cast into Gehenna."
 

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Mattithyah 7:21-27, "Not everyone who says to Me; Teacher! Teacher! will enter into the Kingdom of Yahweh, but only he who does the will of My Father Who is in heaven. Many will say to Me in that day; Teacher! Teacher! Have we not prophesied in nYour Name, and cast out demons in Your Name, and in Your Name performed many wonderful works? But then I will declare to them; I never knew you. Get away from Me, you who practice iniquity."

(iniquity is:#0458 anomia from G0459 Greek Word Study (Transliteration-Pronunciation Etymology & Grammar)
1) the condition of without law
1a) because ignorant of it
1b) because of violating it
2) contempt and violation of law, iniquity, wickedness)


"Therefore, everyone who hears these sayings of Mine, and does them, is like a wise man who built his house on the rock; And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat against that house; but it did not fall, for it was founded upon the rock. But everyone who hears these sayings of Mine, but does not do them, is like a foolish man who built his house upon the sand; And the rain fell, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat against that house; and it fell, and great was the fall of it."
 

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Mattithyah 25:34, "Then the King will say to those on His right hand; Come, you blessed of My Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world: For I was hungry and you gave Me food; I was thirsty and you gave Me drink, I was a stranger and you took Me in; I was naked and you clothed Me; I was sick and you visited Me; I was in prison and you came to Me. Then the righteous will answer Him, saying; Teacher, when did we see You hungry and feed You, or thirsty and give You drink? When did we see You a stranger and take You in, or naked and clothe You? When did we see You sick, or in prison and come to You? And the King will answer, and say to them; Truly I say to you: When you did this for one of the least of these, My neighbors, you have done this for Me."
 

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Mattithyah 22:37, "Yahshua said to him: You must love Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might."
 
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Romans 2:13, For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified.
 
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James 1:22, But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
 
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1John 3:7, Little children let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he(Christ) is righteous.
 

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1John 3:7, Little children let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he(Christ) is righteous.
This verse is particular interesting because he says "let no man deceive you" this can only mean that there IS deception and lies being taught on this issue.

Now let us look to Messiah to see if any of His words back this up:

Mattithyah 16:27, “For the Son of Man will come in the glory of His Father with His Malakim; and then He will reward every man according to his works.”

Revelation 22:12-15, "And behold, I come quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give every man according as his work will be. I am the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Blessed are those who keep His Laws, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For outside are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and worshipers of gods and everyone who professes to love, yet practices falsehood."

and to supplement a bit more, Shaul also:

Romans 2:4-11, “Or do you despise the riches of His kindness, forbearance, and longsuffering; not realizing that Yahweh’s kindness is meant to lead you to repentance? But according to your stubborn and impenitent mind you are storing up wrath for yourself for the day of Yahweh’s wrath, when the righteous judgment of Yahweh will be revealed; when He will reward each one according to his works: to the ones on the one hand, who, by patient persistence in doing righteousness, seek for glory, honor and immortality, He will give eternal life. But to the ones on the other hand, who are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey unrighteousness, He will give indignation and wrath.” Tribulation and anguish, upon every soul of man who does evil: to the Yahdai(Jew) first, and also to the Greek (Gentile) But glory, honor, and peace to every man who works righteousness: to the Yahdai first, and also to the Greek. For there is no respect of persons with Yahweh.”
 

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James 1:22, But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deceiving your own selves.
James 1:27
Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
 

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James 1:27
Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world.
beautiful, beautiful truth!

protect and care for the innocent!
 

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Mattithyah 22:37, "Yahshua said to him: You must love Yahweh your Father with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might."
Matthew 22
34But when the Pharisees heard that he had silenced the Sadducees, they gathered together. 35And one of them, a lawyer, asked him a question to test him. 36“Teacher, which is the great commandment in the Law?” 37And he said to him, “You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. 38This is the great and first commandment. 39And a second is like it: You shall love your neighbor as yourself. 40On these two commandments depend all the Law and the Prophets.”

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Luke 18
The Rich Ruler

18And a ruler asked him, “Good Teacher, what must I do to inherit eternal life?” 19And Jesus said to him, “Why do you call me good? No one is good except God alone. 20You know the commandments: ‘Do not commit adultery, Do not murder, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honor your father and mother.’” 21And he said, “All these I have kept from my youth.” 22When Jesus heard this, he said to him, “One thing you still lack. Sell all that you have and distribute to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me.” 23But when he heard these things, he became very sad, for he was extremely rich. 24Jesus, seeing that he had become sad, said, “How difficult it is for those who have wealth to enter the kingdom of God! 25For it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich person to enter the kingdom of God.” 26Those who heard it said, “Then who can be saved?” 27But he said, “What is impossible with men is possible with God.” 28And Peter said, “See, we have left our homes and followed you.” 29And he said to them, “Truly, I say to you, there is no one who has left house or wife or brothersb or parents or children, for the sake of the kingdom of God, 30who will not receive many times more in this time, and in the age to come eternal life.”

1) had the rich young ruler truly been keeping all the commandments since a youth?
2) oh look: Jesus taught Two Ages - this age, and an age to come: eternal life.

no interim Millennium.
 

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did James say anything about sabbath there and feast days?
did he say anything about not worshipping satan or idols of wood?

lack of evidence is not evidence.
 

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1) had the rich young ruler truly been keeping all the commandments since a youth?
2) oh look: Jesus taught Two Ages - this age, and an age to come: eternal life.

no interim Millennium.
I dont know the guy so I cant say 100%, but it would seem Yahshua was trying to get him to understand the Spirit of the Law, the same account is in Matt 19, but worded slightly differently.

"IF you wish to enter into life keep the Commandments..."

then He goes on to say sell everything. He didnt say forget the Commandments He said r, "very well for keeping also sell give to poor." Cant do step b before a. Foundation, if it did not matter Yahshua wouldnt have asked.

and we cant isolate Scriptures:

Isayah 42:21, "Yahweh is well-pleased, for His righteousness' sake, to magnify the Law, and make it honorable"

Mattithyah 5:19, "Whosoever, therefore, will break one of the least of these Laws, and will teach men so, he will be called the least in the Kingdom of Yahweh; but whosoever will do and teach them, the same will be called great in the Kingdom of Yahweh."

Yahchanan 14:15, "If you love Me, keep My commandments."

Mattithyah 5:18, "For truly I say to you; Unless heaven and earth passes away, one yodh--the smallest of the letters--will in no way pass from the Law, until all things are perfected."

Luke 16:17, "But it is easier for heaven and earth to pass, than one yodh of the Law to fail."

Revelation 22:12-15, "And behold, I come quickly, and My reward is with Me, to give every man according as his work will be. I am the First and the Last, the Beginning and the End. Blessed are those who keep His Laws, that they may have right to the tree of life, and may enter in through the gates into the city. For outside are dogs, and sorcerers, and whoremongers, and murderers, and worshipers of gods and everyone who professes to love, yet practices falsehood."

I see you have brought the debate from the other thread here...

2 ages, is not the 1000 years the age to come?

no 1000 years huh?

Revelation 20:2-5, "And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, who is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years--And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, until the thousand years should be finished; and after that he must be loosed a little season. And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them. And I saw the souls of those who were beheaded for their witness of Yahshua and for the word of Yahweh and who had not worshiped the beast, nor his likeness, neither had received his mark in their foreheads nor upon their hands; and they lived and reigned with the Messiah a thousand years-- But the rest of the dead did not live again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection--"