Boston Marathon Drill: but bombs hit first

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letti

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lol...it becomes pretty obvious. it doesn't matter in the end who is an active 'infiltrator' and who is thoroughly indoctrinated. they do the same work. but TPTB in every age have known this.

read the Sunstein proposal - it's exactly sites like this he's talking about. anywhere the subject is being debated.

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take the "Public Opinion Poll", especially its prominence today in the media as some sort of "measuring device".
lolol...ya know?

the P.O.P. is used to load the bandwagon.
all you have to do is watch as controversial things are going down - take torture ("enhanced interrogations").

what was previously unthinkable...suddenly becomes a topic for "public debate" - should we or shouldn't we?

"IN WHAT CASES WOULD IT BE ACCEPTABLE TO...."

49% of respondents said......etc.

the P.O.P. serves two neat purposes. it deceives the "public" into believing a given subject is actually the buzz; when in reality it's NOT - until the subject and the P.O.P.s are presented over and over and over.....then the subject is the buzz, the meme.

practically overnight you have people actually openly, without shame and apparently without even thinking that matter through, parroting the identical child-like rational for torture.

YES! we say DO IT!

while polling (which is trolling) they may discover resitence. so they tweak the QUESTIONS and the form of the questions....and re-poll...until....they reach:

CONSENSUS < enough to move a so-called "democratic" population to accept the majority "opinion" - even if it's totally fabricated to begin with.

it's so obvious it's actually sickening.

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the dialectical process is so fundamental to loading the bandwagon, that whenever i see a P.O.P. going viral on some issue - i know there's legislation or manouvering of some sort in the works....that P.O.P. tells me what the TPTB want and need.

they need at least the suggestion of majority consensus.

amazing.
Yeah,zone your right.:(
 
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Married_Richenbrachen

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I was not intending to take anything to far,I am sorry.I have some common knowledge but not enough,that's the truth.
Lol. I wasn't meaning you, Letti. You know what's going on. :D
 
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Married_Richenbrachen

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lol...it becomes pretty obvious. it doesn't matter in the end who is an active 'infiltrator' and who is thoroughly indoctrinated. they do the same work. but TPTB in every age have known this.
I agree. But while the infiltrator is prepared to sell out his fellow man for cash and profit, those thoroughly indoctrinated do so with more noble ideals? :p

I'm hoping someday, the indoctrinated ones on this site will see the error of their ways, and understand and speak the truth about the false (official) conspiracy theories they previously accepted.

Good post about the polls, too - I try to dip a fly or two in their ointment wherever I can. I think a vote counts for one thing, but TPTB get upset if you add more dimensions to their dialectic by a comment outside the normal parameters, disproving the assumed two scenario system.
 

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really really simple questions the individual might want to ask themselves (no matter what the singular force of the MSM (Rothschild's Reuters) is doing) would be:

- in what way did the huge monolithic terrorist entity "Radical Islam" benefit from doing 911? is it that they wanted to be on the receiving end of US military might? why on earth would they want that? it's ludicrous.

- who (which actual real known individuals) is on record as benefiting from 911? i mean...is it really hard to ask who benefits?

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inane remarks like we heard in response to the scripted P.O.P. set-up "Why Did They Attack Us on 911"? - " "Because They Hate Us For Our Freedoms":confused:

really - it's just beyond me to know who would believe this.
and even if one could say (truthfully indeed) that Bush's answer is stupid....how is it you have someone like that holding the office of the most powerful man on earth?

they hate us for our FREEDOMS?

...as the Fascist Patriot Acts 1 & 2 were already written?

survivors of Stalin's regime and others like it have said they came to America and were shocked to see the very same movement toward ruthless totalitarianism going down there. yet no one seemed to notice.

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"Every child in America entering school at the age of five is insane because he comes to school with certain allegiances to our founding fathers, toward our elected officials, toward his parents, toward a belief in a supernatural being, and toward the sovereignty of this nation as a separate entity. It’s up to you as teachers to make all these sick children well – by creating the international child of the future"

- Dr. Chester M. Pierce, Psychiatrist, address to the Childhood International Education Seminar, 1973
 
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letti

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I't is hard for some people to accept such evil would come from within,that is why even my own family thinks my accusations are crazy.and they accept what's told to them.
 
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Married_Richenbrachen

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survivors of Stalin's regime and others like it have said they came to America and were shocked to see the very same movement toward ruthless totalitarianism going down there. yet no one seemed to notice.
I think Stalin didn't make as big a show of being a good guy (or perhaps he just made big changes very quickly)? Even many communists knew he was evil. That said, some communists did still worship him, even after being thrown in the Gulags. They thought (their individual imprisonments) were some huge mistake, whilst believing the lies excusing the imprisonment (or execution) of their fellow inmates/comrades.

I know the USSR government overtly opposed Christians, and so even today many (former USSR) Christians have a healthy distrust of government. In Western nations, the PR was much better, and I don't think the opposition was ever very overt. It was always a gradual erosion of freedoms, promotion of "secularism" etc. Perhaps the opposition is getting more overt these days, but many Western Christians seem anesthetised because of the perceived goodwill shown them in the past.
 
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Married_Richenbrachen

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I't is hard for some people to accept such evil would come from within,that is why even my own family thinks my accusations are crazy.and they accept what's told to them.
So what made you start to believe in conspiracy theories?
 
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I think Stalin didn't make as big a show of being a good guy (or perhaps he just made big changes very quickly)? Even many communists knew he was evil. That said, some communists did still worship him, even after being thrown in the Gulags. They thought (their individual imprisonments) were some huge mistake, whilst believing the lies excusing the imprisonment (or execution) of their fellow inmates/comrades.

I know the USSR government overtly opposed Christians, and so even today many (former USSR) Christians have a healthy distrust of government. In Western nations, the PR was much better, and I don't think the opposition was ever very overt. It was always a gradual erosion of freedoms, promotion of "secularism" etc. Perhaps the opposition is getting more overt these days, but many Western Christians seem anesthetised because of the perceived goodwill shown them in the past.
Yeah,I do see that like for instance the current debate concerning,Obamacare.Some really don't perceive it for how it will turn out,one compared socialism,being a lesser evil, than a world with freedom to be disobedient.I't was strange.
 

zone

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just look back at this:










you get the idea.





wait....WHAT?
the LAST thing we may want to do is read the SUSPECT his Miranda "rights"?

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Volume 75 Number 2 Summer 1997

THE POSSE COMITATUS ACT: A PRINCIPLE IN NEED OF RENEWAL

Cite As 75 Wash. U. L.Q. 953
I. INTRODUCTION

In response to the military presence in the Southern States during the Reconstruction Era, Congress passed the Posse Comitatus Act[1] ("PCA" or the "Act") to prohibit the use of the Army in civilian law enforcement. The Act embodies the traditional American principle of separating civilian and military authority and currently forbids the use of the Army and Air Force to enforce civilian laws.[2] In the last fifteen years, Congress has deliberately eroded this principle by involving the military in drug interdiction at our borders.[3] This erosion will continue unless Congress renews the PCA's principle to preserve the necessary and traditional separation of civilian and military authority.

Washington University Law Quarterly: THE POSSE COMITATUS ACT: A PRINCIPLE IN NEED OF RENEWAL


oh..right: The WAR ON DRUGS.

just like: THE WAR ON TERROR.

:rolleyes:

in a war ON drugs, is the military at war with drugs?
in a war ON terror, is the military at war with terror? what does a terror look like?

1984 : Do you still see four fingers Winston, or is it five ?

O'Brien holds up 4 fingers - but he wants Winston to say - and believe - that he is holding up 5.

Winston is tortured in order to have him align not just in word but in actuality with the "Party"

it's not enough for him to just SAY he sees five fingers - he has to believe it.

Propaganda told them 24/7 they were at war with Eastasia and had always been - even though they were just told they had always been at war with Eurasia.

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did this happen in Mao's Great Leap Forward?
to the letter.

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do we have Western "leaders" and power-brokers on record saying Mao's system was the model and a wonderful success?

nah...that's some conspiracy theory. isn't it?
 
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letti

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Yeah,I do see that like for instance the current debate concerning,Obamacare.Some really don't perceive it for how it will turn out,one compared socialism,being a lesser evil, than a world with freedom to be disobedient.I't was strange.
That one was a Christian LOL:)
 
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letti

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just look back at this:










you get the idea.





wait....WHAT?
the LAST thing we may want to do is read the SUSPECT his Miranda "rights"?

....

Volume 75 Number 2 Summer 1997

THE POSSE COMITATUS ACT: A PRINCIPLE IN NEED OF RENEWAL

Cite As 75 Wash. U. L.Q. 953
I. INTRODUCTION

In response to the military presence in the Southern States during the Reconstruction Era, Congress passed the Posse Comitatus Act[1] ("PCA" or the "Act") to prohibit the use of the Army in civilian law enforcement. The Act embodies the traditional American principle of separating civilian and military authority and currently forbids the use of the Army and Air Force to enforce civilian laws.[2] In the last fifteen years, Congress has deliberately eroded this principle by involving the military in drug interdiction at our borders.[3] This erosion will continue unless Congress renews the PCA's principle to preserve the necessary and traditional separation of civilian and military authority.

Washington University Law Quarterly: THE POSSE COMITATUS ACT: A PRINCIPLE IN NEED OF RENEWAL


oh..right: The WAR ON DRUGS.

just like: THE WAR ON TERROR.

:rolleyes:

in a war ON drugs, is the military at war with drugs?
in a war ON terror, is the military at war with terror? what does a terror look like?

1984 : Do you still see four fingers Winston, or is it five ?

O'Brien holds up 4 fingers - but he wants Winston to say - and believe - that he is holding up 5.

Winston is tortured in order to have him align not just in word but in actuality with the "Party"

it's not enough for him to just SAY he sees five fingers - he has to believe it.

Propaganda told them 24/7 they were at war with Eastasia and had always been - even though they were just told they had always been at war with Eurasia.

...

did this happen in Mao's Great Leap Forward?
to the letter.

...

do we have Western "leaders" and power-brokers on record saying Mao's system was the model and a wonderful success?

nah...that's some conspiracy theory. isn't it?
Most of what they do just can hardly be unseen now,but still many just refuse to believe it.Yeah us conspiracy nuts, Hey,I thought that way once,I'm glad I know the truth now.
 
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The Boston bombing was a complete setup.
1. You have a guy(older Tsarnaev), dressing in designer clothes driving a Mercedes while he was unemployed and his wife worked as a caretaker(min. wage).
2. While he's going back and forth between Chechnya and the U.S.
3. Even the Russian secret service alerted the CIA about him.
Gee wiz, I wonder how he slipped through the cracks?
Golly, I wonder who was funding him?

Called problem, reaction, solution folks.
 

zone

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Poll: Should the Boston Marathon bomb suspect be read his Miranda rights?

Poll: Should the Boston Marathon bomb suspect be read his Miranda rights? | NJ.com

blah blah blah terror fear fear blah blah the debate blah blah

WITH:

POLL:


Should the Boston Marathon bomb suspect be read his Miranda rights?

Yes

No

Vote

View Results

Saturday's poll, results

^ click that a-a-a-a-a-nd...what do you find?

Poll: Do you agree with the decision to lock-down Boston?

Yes

No

Vote

View Results

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okay? so what are they doing?
they are looking to see how many people WILL AGREE to give up THEIR OWN Miranda rights; and WILL AGREE to Military Rule.

just like the "public" agreed that torture was OKAY.
what they agreed to - was that they themselves could one day be held without charges; without trial and tortured.

Public Opinion?

for real? ;)
 
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letti

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The Boston bombing was a complete setup.
1. You have a guy(older Tsarnaev), dressing in designer clothes driving a Mercedes while he was unemployed and his wife worked as a caretaker(min. wage).
2. While he's going back and forth between Chechnya and the U.S.
3. Even the Russian secret service alerted the CIA about him.
Gee wiz, I wonder how he slipped through the cracks?
Golly, I wonder who was funding him?

Called problem, reaction, solution folks.
i suspected you were informed good to know rick:)I wonder how many more of these muslims will commit terrorism :phere.
 
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Married_Richenbrachen

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Poll: Should the Boston Marathon bomb suspect be read his Miranda rights?
I think freedom is too important to be left to democracy.
 
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Married_Richenbrachen

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i suspected you were informed good to know rick:)I wonder how many more of these muslims will commit terrorism :phere.
Next time, it might be conspiracy theorists committing the terror! I vaguely remember hearing or reading somewhere that they were also trying to pin conspiracy theory onto the Boston patsies, or perhaps their mum after she starting talking about their FBI dealings?
 
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Well, Boston strong!
(They even have a calling for it, like it is a spirit of the current age)

What's worse is a whole city was locked down for a day.
Take a poll on that.

Would you be willing to go under marshal law if a certain criminal was running amuck?

YES : 100%
(We don't even need the other category, "save us big brother!")
- "Take my rights please!!!"

- - - Total Litmus test
 
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letti

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The boston bombers family claimed,they had been set up,that sounds highly probable to me,but then some would really hate I'd think something so absurd.