Boston Marathon Drill: but bombs hit first

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Police response training planned, but bombs hit first

By Maria Cramer | GLOBE STAFF JUNE 08, 2013

The scenario had been carefully planned: A terrorist group prepared to hurt vast numbers of people around Boston would leave backpacks filled with explosives at Faneuil Hall, the Seaport District, and in other towns, spreading waves of panic and fear. Detectives would have to catch the culprits.

Months of painstaking planning had gone into the exercise, dubbed “Operation Urban Shield,” meant to train dozens of detectives in the Greater Boston area to work together to thwart a terrorist threat. The hypothetical terrorist group was even given a name: Free America Citizens, a home-grown cadre of militiamen whose logo would be a metal skull wearing an Uncle Sam hat and a furious expression, according to a copy of the plans obtained by the Boston Globe.

But two months before the training exercise was to take place, the city was hit with a real terrorist attack executed in a frighteningly similar fashion. The chaos of the Boston Marathon bombings disrupted plans for the exercise, initially scheduled for this weekend, forcing police to postpone. Now officials must retool aspects of the training.

“The real thing happened before we were able to execute,” said a law enforcement official with direct knowledge of the planned exercise. “We’ve already been tested.”

This would have been the third year for Urban Shield, a 24-hour federally funded training exercise meant to test the response of police and other public safety personnel in a large-scale emergency, such as a toxic spill or a natural disaster.

‘The main goal of this was to arrest as many of the people as possible and absolutely identify where the [supposed] cache of bombs was being kept.’

Last fall, a slew of agencies including Boston police and other police departments, the Coast Guard, and the MBTA joined forces to confront a simulated armed bank robbery in which the robbers were trying to escape with hostages.

For this year’s training, the agencies wanted to test the investigative skills of their detectives, as well as their ability to work with detectives in other cities, and share intelligence, said the official, who spoke on condition of anonymity because details of the planned exercise were confidential.

The training, funded by a $200,000 Homeland Security grant, will probably be rescheduled to early next year, said Transit Police Chief Paul MacMillan, whose agency was slated to participate.

He said he anticipates the new training scenario will be similar to the one already planned.

“Why wouldn’t we do it?” MacMillan said. “Just because we had one event doesn’t mean that we might not have another one. And it behooves us to continually work together to investigate these types of incidents.”

Cheryl Fiandaca, spokeswoman for the Boston Police Department, said the agencies had no choice but to postpone this year’s Urban Shield.

“The resources and logistics of putting something of this magnitude together in light of what just happened would be challenging,” she said. “To put together an exercise that would be a really valuable training and teaching tool we need more time.”

Officials from a dozen agencies had been meeting for months to plan the scenario. They behaved much like movie producers, recruiting students from Northeastern University and the Boston Police Academy to play the parts of terrorists and witnesses.

They scouted warehouses and homes around Chelsea and Winthrop that could be used as a terrorist safe house.

The basic plot was this: Half a dozen members of Free America Citizens wanted to gauge police response to a bomb scare. They would plant hoax devices, then stay on the scene to watch and record the bomb squad and detectives as they responded, as a dry run to a larger attack.

The participating detectives, however, would not have known they were being watched. They would only be told that they were responding to an urgent terrorist threat. The goal of the training was for them to figure out the motives of Free America Citizens as they investigated the case, the official said.

The planned exercise has eerie similarities to the police investigation that led to the capture of the alleged Boston Marathon bombers, Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev, whose images were caught on video cameras and who were captured after a car chase and shoot-out with police.

In the training scenario, investigators participating in Urban Shield would have to track down footage of the bombers caught by street surveillance cameras and the phones of “witnesses.”


They would have to call on intelligence analysts to figure out which terrorist cell might be threatening the city.

In the scenario, the terrorists would flee police in stolen cars they would dump in cities outside Boston, which would compel detectives from different jurisdictions to cooperate and share intelligence.

One major clue would have been the body of one of the terrorists found near a stolen car, dead from a self-inflicted gunshot wound. There were also false leads to keep investigators guessing, the official said.

“We’d have detectives running ragged,” the official said. “The main goal of this was to arrest as many of the people as possible and absolutely identify where the cache of bombs was being kept.”

Fiandaca, the police spokeswoman, declined to say what a new training might look like.

“We can’t talk about what we’re doing for emergency preparedness,” she said. “The people who participate in this don’t know what the scenario is.”

Before police could plan for a terrorist attack, the real thing happened - Metro - The Boston Globe


1/4 mil spent on months of planning.
but supposedly THE most obvious place for such an event, the teensy section of the city - THE FINISH LINE - went unsurveilled and the bad guys actually managed to drop their backpacks unseen.......uh....ya.

sure.




Men with backpacks at the scene, possibly Craft International contractors. (Anonymous)
 

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The F.B.I. was practicing controlled explosions before the bombing and the government has already revealed that the two brothers worked for them as secret agents. The government can spin their lies all they want, but the truth always shines through to those who are seeking it.
 

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FBI withholds autopsy of Tsarnaev associate 'shot in head' during questioning

FBI withholds autopsy of Tsarnaev associate 'shot in head' during questioning

Get short URL Published time: July 17, 2013 09:50
Edited time: July 18, 2013 13:48

The FBI has ordered a Florida medical examiner’s office not to release the autopsy report of a Chechen man who was killed during an FBI interview in May over his ties to one of the suspected Boston Marathon bombers.

The autopsy report for Ibragim Todashev, 27, killed by an FBI agent during an interrogation which took place in his apartment on May 22 was ready for release on July 8. However, the FBI barred its publication, saying an internal probe into his death is ongoing.

“The FBI has informed this office that the case is still under active investigation and thus not to release the document,” according to statement by Tony Miranda, forensic records coordinator for Orange and Osceola counties in Orlando.

The forensic report was expected to clarify the circumstances of Todashev's death.The Bureau’s statement issued on the day of the incident provided no details of what transpired, saying only that the person being interviewed was killed when a “violent confrontation was initiated by the individual.”

Back in May Ibragim Todashev’s father showed pictures of his dead son’s body at a press conference in Moscow, revealing he had been shot six times.

FBI withholds autopsy of Tsarnaev associate 'shot in head' during questioning — RT USA
 

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the more people deny islam's influence in these terrors, the more islam keeps getting away from being exposed.
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the more people deny islam's influence in these terrors, the more islam keeps getting away from being exposed.
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i'm certainly NOT denying Islam in this 'war on terror'.

all i'm asking is...is Islam (muslims) acting autonomously in it's use of terrorism?

the answer is clearly NO.
Islam has been stirred up and mobilized as a proxy. how much evidence do you need?
does that make muslim criminals and terrorists any less guilty? NO.
and i've never said otherwise.
 
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i'm certainly NOT denying Islam in this 'war on terror'.

all i'm asking is...is Islam (muslims) acting autonomously in it's use of terrorism?

the answer is clearly NO.
Islam has been stirred up and mobilized as a proxy. how much evidence do you need?
does that make muslim criminals and terrorists any less guilty? NO.
and i've never said otherwise.
Your equalizing ISLAM and muslims shows your misunderstanding of the issue, I must say. ISLAM is not MUSLIMS.
ISLAM is commandments and examples (sunna) from ALLAH and Muhammad.
ISLAM does command terror. I would assume you haven't read the quran, then, let alone the tafsir (of the quran) and the hadith.
 

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Your equalizing ISLAM and muslims shows your misunderstanding of the issue, I must say. ISLAM is not MUSLIMS.
ISLAM is commandments and examples (sunna) from ALLAH and Muhammad.
ISLAM does command terror. I would assume you haven't read the quran, then, let alone the tafsir (of the quran) and the hadith.
oh okay....:confused:
you clearly haven't been reading any of my other posts.
i'm perfectly aware of what Islam is.
my point WAS.....there are outside forces stirring it up TODAY.
now they're killing each other, as well as christians.

according to you then, islam (a concept/belief system/religion) - a non-entity is out there committing acts of terror?

Quote Originally Posted by leonardronaldo
the more people deny islam's influence in these terrors, the more islam keeps getting away from being exposed.
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who adheres to Islam which has "influence in these terrors"?

1) Catholics
2) Christians
3) Jews
4) Muslims

what's yer point?:)

anyways....no offense, no need to reply.

Muslims didn't do 911.
the West said they did and started bombing, and balkanizing...for a purpose.
now you have Islam stirred up.

that was my point.
 
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oh okay....:confused:
you clearly haven't been reading any of my other posts.
i'm perfectly aware of what Islam is.
my point WAS.....there are outside forces stirring it up TODAY.
now they're killing each other, as well as christians.

according to you then, islam (a concept/belief system/religion) - a non-entity is out there committing acts of terror?

Quote Originally Posted by leonardronaldo
the more people deny islam's influence in these terrors, the more islam keeps getting away from being exposed.
sigh
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who adheres to Islam which has "influence in these terrors"?

1) Catholics
2) Christians
3) Jews
4) Muslims

what's yer point?:)

anyways....no offense, no need to reply.

Muslims didn't do 911.
the West said they did and started bombing, and balkanizing...for a purpose.
now you have Islam stirred up.

that was my point.
LOL. not that Iranian's conspiracy theory again. Anyway, it's your choice to believe it. One of cc's member from saudi has cousins who were on that plane and they are all western? yea right. i don't care much about 911. Islam has been a terror for more than 1400 year.
What I meant by influence, is, it is plainly and directly commanded for all who believes in Islam. Can muslims deny to do it? yes of course, but that doesn't make Islam get away from its terror spirit in itself.
Even if 1 billion muslims are not doing what is commanded, it doesn't change Islam a bit. ISLAM is:
Allah's commandment in the quran; and Muhammad's deeds, example and sayings in the Hadith (plus sira).

Imagine if your new testament commands you this: "fight those who disbelieve in Jesus, even from the Torah's believer, until they pay the penalty in downgraded subdued feeling".
If you, as believers, don't do that, does that change the commandment?

Peace of Christ
 

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LOL. not that Iranian's conspiracy theory again. Anyway, it's your choice to believe it. One of cc's member from saudi has cousins who were on that plane and they are all western? yea right. i don't care much about 911. Islam has been a terror for more than 1400 year.
What I meant by influence, is, it is plainly and directly commanded for all who believes in Islam. Can muslims deny to do it? yes of course, but that doesn't make Islam get away from its terror spirit in itself.
Even if 1 billion muslims are not doing what is commanded, it doesn't change Islam a bit. ISLAM is:
Allah's commandment in the quran; and Muhammad's deeds, example and sayings in the Hadith (plus sira).

Imagine if your new testament commands you this: "fight those who disbelieve in Jesus, even from the Torah's believer, until they pay the penalty in downgraded subdued feeling".
If you, as believers, don't do that, does that change the commandment?

Peace of Christ
Iranian conspiracy theory...like WHAT:confused:

so what if there were saudis on the planes.
and how do you know WHO was on the planes....no remains. nothing.
just a magically perfectly preserved passport.
and a bandana and...oh forget it:rolleyes:

as for islam....i get it...okay. i get and have always gotten it.
i dont believed ive ever posted the Islam is a religion of peace thing.

i said - the REVOLUTIONARY activities that we did not see until 911 are stirred up from OUTSIDE.

and as for Christianity, yes. i know what it says - and yet we have how many saying they christians who are guarding poppy fields and working at GITMO. or saying it is okay.

anyways....over

yup..peace out
 
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Iranian conspiracy theory...like WHAT:confused:

so what if there were saudis on the planes.
and how do you know WHO was on the planes....no remains. nothing.
just a magically perfectly preserved passport.
and a bandana and...oh forget it:rolleyes:

as for islam....i get it...okay. i get and have always gotten it.
i dont believed ive ever posted the Islam is a religion of peace thing.

i said - the REVOLUTIONARY activities that we did not see until 911 are stirred up from OUTSIDE.

and as for Christianity, yes. i know what it says - and yet we have how many saying they christians who are guarding poppy fields and working at GITMO. or saying it is okay.

anyways....over

yup..peace out
it was the iranian who first made that theory, i thought you have known. hmm
i can pm you the cc's saudi member here and ask himself about his cousins.

who do you mean by WE DID not see? I, as an Indonesian, sees first hand from my childhood what activities they are doing, although just like you, i didn't realize back then that those activities were actually influenced directly by ISLAM.

and that;s my point, Christianity aren't to be judged by any Christians, but by Christ's example and God's Scripture.
so is the case with Islam, only by Muhammad's example and Allah's Quran.

peace
 

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it was the iranian who first made that theory, i thought you have known. hmm
i can pm you the cc's saudi member here and ask himself about his cousins.
no thats okay.
im not for the official 911 narrative. its totally debunked.

who do you mean by WE DID not see? I, as an Indonesian, sees first hand from my childhood what activities they are doing, although just like you, i didn't realize back then that those activities were actually influenced directly by ISLAM.
i understand....i meant the ramp up since 911; this war on terror; the (fake) arab springs and so on.
instigated...fomented.
of course it wouldnt take much - all you do is take out secular rulers that have some degree of stability (whether they are despots or not, well....as Bush claimed after saddam went down - is the world a safer place....clearly not)

and we can see what the MB is going to do if they take total control.
the thing is - who are they.

thats what i keep posting about.

yup....okay
 

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ya...it's a mess:(
eerily quiet now. ahem.

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Graham Fuller, Uncle Ruslan, the CIA and the Boston Bombings

By F. William Engdahl

One of the many unexplained (at least not officially) anomalies of the persons claimed to have carried out the Boston Marathon bombings is the presence of key CIA figure in the direct family of the accused brothers. Ruslan Tsarnaev, the outspoken uncle of the brothers was married to Samantha A. Fuller until 2004. Samantha’s father is Graham Fuller, the senior CIA person who architected the Afghan Islamic fundamentalist Mujahideen war against the Soviets. He is also implicated in creating a global jihad network, presumably acting on behalf of CIA interests.

Graham Fuller, Uncle Ruslan, the CIA and the Boston Bombings | Veterans Today
 
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no thats okay.
im not for the official 911 narrative. its totally debunked.



i understand....i meant the ramp up since 911; this war on terror; the (fake) arab springs and so on.
instigated...fomented.
of course it wouldnt take much - all you do is take out secular rulers that have some degree of stability (whether they are despots or not, well....as Bush claimed after saddam went down - is the world a safer place....clearly not)

and we can see what the MB is going to do if they take total control.
the thing is - who are they.

thats what i keep posting about.

yup....okay
yes, the other narrative of the story of 911 (that the jews did it, not al-qaeda), was first suggested by the Iranian governments.
I could care less about MB, though, when Islam is still there.
 
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ya...it's a mess:(
eerily quiet now. ahem.

...

Graham Fuller, Uncle Ruslan, the CIA and the Boston Bombings

By F. William Engdahl

One of the many unexplained (at least not officially) anomalies of the persons claimed to have carried out the Boston Marathon bombings is the presence of key CIA figure in the direct family of the accused brothers. Ruslan Tsarnaev, the outspoken uncle of the brothers was married to Samantha A. Fuller until 2004. Samantha’s father is Graham Fuller, the senior CIA person who architected the Afghan Islamic fundamentalist Mujahideen war against the Soviets. He is also implicated in creating a global jihad network, presumably acting on behalf of CIA interests.

Graham Fuller, Uncle Ruslan, the CIA and the Boston Bombings | Veterans Today
Did CIA also make the quran? hmm, i wonder what fundamentalist's definition is.
 
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Did CIA also make the quran? hmm, i wonder what fundamentalist's definition is.
Is a man not innocent until proven guilty? Why do so many of these alleged Islamic terrorists mysteriously die before being brought to trial? And if the questions about these deaths get too awkward, the witnesses to the alleged terrorists' deaths mysteriously die, too. Can't you see a pattern?

It's easy to pin all sorts of crimes on the dead. Much harder if the accused are alive to defend themselves in a fair trial by jury, and proof of accusations are required.
 
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Is a man not innocent until proven guilty? Why do so many of these alleged Islamic terrorists mysteriously die before being brought to trial? And if the questions about these deaths get too awkward, the witnesses to the alleged terrorists' deaths mysteriously die, too. Can't you see a pattern?

It's easy to pin all sorts of crimes on the dead. Much harder if the accused are alive to defend themselves in a fair trial by jury, and proof of accusations are required.
Have you read the Quran?
Have you read the Hadith and Sira Rasulullah?
Thanks for advice, but I did. And i don't blame the muslims. Muslims are victims. I blame allah and muhammad.