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The accusations start to fly:

....you don't know and have never studied categorical doctrine.

....you do not know doctrine or operate in the Spirit

....you accuse others of being under the influence of the devil when in reality they are thinking and conducting themselves under doctrine that you have never learned.

.....if you bring up my sin with your tongue, that God has forgiven and cleansed, then that is evil, and if you use your it to discredit me with your tongue, that is malicious

....and if you falsely accuse me of any sin that is not true, then that is slander.

....You need to study why the word of God tells us not to let any corrupt communication proceed out of our mouth but only that which can be used to minister grace and edification.

....You need to study why the tongue is such a little member of the body that is set on fire of hell boasting great things which can start blazing fires and defile the whole body, that can bless God and curse men at the same time, full of unruly evil and deadly poison.

....You need to learn the doctrine of the tongue and search the scriptures as a humble servant and presume nothing but learn it as a little child.

How did Dispensationalism Come About?

Dispensationalism may be traced to J.N. Darby (1800-1882) who was an ordained minister of the Church of England. Darby, however, was dissatisfied with the strict clericalism found in that Church, and joined a group of like-minded men who did not see the need for a trained, and an ordained ministry. Everyone was a “pastor” and could preach and teach the Word regardless of whether he was equipped to do so or not.

He became one of the important leaders of the Plymouth Brethren movement. Having a prolific pen, Darby left behind at least 53 volumes (each volume containing about 400 pages) of his writings. He interpreted the Bible in terms of a series of dispensations.

C.I. Scofield (1843-1921) was closely associated with the Plymouth Brethren, and through them he received Darby’s teachings. Scofield was so enamoured with Darby’s dispensationalism that he systematised his theology. In 1909, he published his Reference Bible which promoted and popularised dispensational theology. He compartmentalised the Scriptures into neat dispensational sections. This made it an extremely attractive Study Bible.

Dallas Theological Seminary, under its founder Lewis Sperry Chafer (1871-1952), became the School to champion dispensational theology. Till today, it is unashamedly dispensational.

Its dispensational distinctive is clearly spelled out under Article V of its doctrinal constitution where covenant theology is unequivocally rejected.:

[Covenant theology sees only one unifying dispensation (better termed “covenant”) since the fall of Adam when God promised a divine Saviour who will save His people from sin (Gen 3:15, Rom 5:12-21)].5

http://febc.edu.sg/assets/pdfs/tracts/Dispensationalism Examined.pdf < click

...

....and if you falsely accuse me of any sin that is not true, then that is slander.
Ephesians 1:10 10 That in the dispensation of the fulness of times he might gather together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; even in him:

The purpose God had in mind is given us in the words, “that in the dispensation of the fulness of times, etc.” The preposition is eis, “with a view to,” indicating what direction the purpose took. The word “dispensation” requires some study. It is not preceded by the definite article. The word is oikonomia, which is made up of oikos,“house,” and nomos, “law.” The compound word means, “the management of a household, or of household affairs, the management, oversight, administration of other’s property, the office of a manager, overseer, stewardship.” Thus, it speaks here of an administration by God of a certain period of human history designated as “the fulness of times.”

Our word “dispensation,” used in Bible teaching nomenclature, refers to a certain period of time marked by a certain method in which God administers the affairs of mankind, such as the dispensation of grace, etc. It does not have that meaning here. Instead of referring to a dispensation itself, it speaks of the method by which God administers the particular time referred to in the words “the fulness of times.”

Paul had received by revelation a measure of grace according to God's purpose that he was to administer, dispense, oversee and manage in terms of its affairs, its doctrine and the building up of believers as a habitation of God through the Spirit.

This was to be done by faith and all under the stewardship of this grace that was given.

This was never offered to Israel nor was it a part of the commonwealth of Israel.

It was solely offered to the church as part of the manifold grace and wisdom of God according to God's purpose to reveal the mystery of Christ and the church.

It excluded Israel as a people and nation
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....You need to study why the tongue is such a little member of the body that is set on fire of hell boasting great things which can start blazing fires and defile the whole body, that can bless God and curse men at the same time, full of unruly evil and deadly poison.

....You need to learn the doctrine of the tongue and search the scriptures as a humble servant and presume nothing but learn it as a little child.
 
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How did Dispensationalism Come About?

Dispensationalism may be traced to J.N. Darby (1800-1882) who was an ordained minister of the Church of England. Darby, however, was dissatisfied with the strict clericalism found in that Church, and joined a group of like-minded men who did not see the need for a trained, and an ordained ministry. Everyone was a “pastor” and could preach and teach the Word regardless of whether he was equipped to do so or not.

He became one of the important leaders of the Plymouth Brethren movement. Having a prolific pen, Darby left behind at least 53 volumes (each volume containing about 400 pages) of his writings. He interpreted the Bible in terms of a series of dispensations.

C.I. Scofield (1843-1921) was closely associated with the Plymouth Brethren, and through them he received Darby’s teachings. Scofield was so enamoured with Darby’s dispensationalism that he systematised his theology. In 1909, he published his Reference Bible which promoted and popularised dispensational theology. He compartmentalised the Scriptures into neat dispensational sections. This made it an extremely attractive Study Bible.

Dallas Theological Seminary, under its founder Lewis Sperry Chafer (1871-1952), became the School to champion dispensational theology. Till today, it is unashamedly dispensational.

Its dispensational distinctive is clearly spelled out under Article V of its doctrinal constitution where covenant theology is unequivocally rejected.:

[Covenant theology sees only one unifying dispensation (better termed “covenant”) since the fall of Adam when God promised a divine Saviour who will save His people from sin (Gen 3:15, Rom 5:12-21)].5

http://febc.edu.sg/assets/pdfs/tracts/Dispensationalism%20Examined.pdf < click

...
Having fun yet? Your like a spinning vinyl record with a deep long scratch and ever time it goes around I hear this awful sound and have to shut it off and put the vinyl record in the undesirable pile marked 'unwanted'. I don't feel bad for the scratched up record, it's just not a good record and not worth listening to. I pull out the other vinyl records from their protective sleeves with no scratches, that have been preserved and properly maintained all these years and oh do they sound good and trustworthy to my ears. They put a smile on my face, hope in my heart with joy and set my feet dancing with 'Gracey'. 'Dispy' and 'Gracey' dancing together in oneness and unity in a melody of life. There has never been any dust on that record because I play it all the time and the needle is clean and sharp and never misses a single note or skips a beat, putting forth and filling the air of the room with that melody of life. Nothing, including that scratched up record, can separate us from that melody of love and life that we have in the Spirit and in truth.

BradC
 
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Having fun yet? Your like a spinning vinyl record with a deep long scratch and ever time it goes around I hear this awful sound and have to shut it off and put the vinyl record in the undesirable pile marked 'unwanted'. I don't feel bad for the scratched up record, it's just not a good record and not worth listening to. I pull out the other vinyl records from their protective sleeves with no scratches, that have been preserved and properly maintained all these years and oh do they sound good and trustworthy to my ears. They put a smile on my face, hope in my heart with joy and set my feet dancing with 'Gracey'. 'Dispy' and 'Gracey' dancing together in oneness and unity in a melody of life. There has never been any dust on that record because I play it all the time and the needle is clean and sharp and never misses a single note or skips a beat, putting forth and filling the air of the room with that melody of life. Nothing, including that scratched up record, can separate us from that melody of love and life that we have in the Spirit and in truth.

BradC
Proverbs 18:6 - 7 A fool's lips enter into contention, and his mouth calleth for strokes.A fool's mouth is his destruction, and his lips are the snare of his soul.
 

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It's one thing to mention sin for the sake of conviction
are you a previously banned member - username Red33 - whose real name is actually Brad?

mind you, the "categorical" doctrine of the 'dispensational free grace mystery parenthesis church age" says:

"No act of obedience, preceding or following faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, such as commitment to obey, sorrow for sin, turning from one's sin, baptism, or submission to the Lordship of Christ, may be added to, or considered as a part of, faith as a condition for receiving eternal salvation (Romans 4:5; Galatians 2:16; Titus 3:5)."

Bible Doctrines, Categorical Bible Studies - Spokane Bible Church
www.spokanebiblechurch.com/.../Bible Doctrines/Bible-Doctrines.ht...‎

so i reckon it's all covered by grace.
no need to repent of nor confess any sin.

....

"Free Grace theology is a Christian soteriological view teaching that everyone receives eternal life the moment they believe in Jesus Christ as their personal Savior and Lord. "Lord" refers to the belief that Jesus is the Son of God and therefore able to be their "Savior".[1] The view distinguishes between the "call to believe" in Christ as a Savior and receiving the gift of eternal life, and the "call to follow" Christ and become obedient disciples,[1] meaning that the justified believer is free from any subsequent obligations unless he or she decides to undergo the process of sanctification.[2]

...in Hodges' book Absolutely Free! and later in more detail in his book, Harmony With God Hodges took the position that the process of repentance may be a preparatory step in coming to salvation, and should be evident in the life of a believer, but a lost man can be born again apart from repentance by any definition. Hodges also said he no longer held to the “change of mind” view of repentance. In Harmony with God Hodges said there is only one answer to the question, “What must I do to be saved?” Hodges emphatically stated, “Repentance is not part of that answer. It never has been and never will be.”

Free Grace theology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < click
 
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... oh do they sound good and trustworthy to my ears. They put a smile on my face, hope in my heart with joy and set my feet dancing with 'Gracey'. 'Dispy' and 'Gracey' dancing together in oneness and unity in a melody of life.
Eccl 1:17-18 And I gave my heart to know wisdom, and to know madness and folly: I perceived that this also is vexation of spirit. For in much wisdom [is] much grief: and he that increaseth knowledge increaseth sorrow.
 

zone

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Having fun yet? Your like a spinning vinyl record with a deep long scratch and ever time it goes around I hear this awful sound and have to shut it off and put the vinyl record in the undesirable pile marked 'unwanted'. I don't feel bad for the scratched up record, it's just not a good record and not worth listening to. I pull out the other vinyl records from their protective sleeves with no scratches, that have been preserved and properly maintained all these years and oh do they sound good and trustworthy to my ears. They put a smile on my face, hope in my heart with joy and set my feet dancing with 'Gracey'. 'Dispy' and 'Gracey' dancing together in oneness and unity in a melody of life. There has never been any dust on that record because I play it all the time and the needle is clean and sharp and never misses a single note or skips a beat, putting forth and filling the air of the room with that melody of life. Nothing, including that scratched up record, can separate us from that melody of love and life that we have in the Spirit and in truth.

BradC
Deuteronomy 18:15
The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your fellow Israelites. You must listen to him.

Deuteronomy 18:18
I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him.

Malachi 4
4"Remember the law of Moses My servant, even the statutes and ordinances which I commanded him in Horeb for all Israel. 5"Behold, I am going to send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and terrible day of the LORD. 6"He will restore the hearts of the fathers to their children and the hearts of the children to their fathers, so that I will not come and smite the land with a curse."

Matthew 11:14
13"For all the prophets and the Law prophesied until John. 14"And if you are willing to accept it, John himself is Elijah who was to come. 15"He who has ears to hear, let him hear

John 1
Jesus Calls His First Disciples
40One of the two who heard John speak and followed Him, was Andrew, Simon Peter's brother. 41He found first his own brother Simon and said to him, "We have found the Messiah " (which translated means Christ). 42He brought him to Jesus. Jesus looked at him and said, "You are Simon the son of John; you shall be called Cephas " (which is translated Peter).

Matthew 21
The Triumphal Entry
1Now when they drew near to Jerusalem and came to Bethphage, to the Mount of Olives, then Jesus sent two disciples, 2saying to them, “Go into the village in front of you, and immediately you will find a donkey tied, and a colt with her. Untie them and bring them to me. 3If anyone says anything to you, you shall say, ‘The Lord needs them,’ and he will send them at once.” 4This took place to fulfill what was spoken by the prophet, saying,

5 “Say to the daughter of Zion,
‘Behold, your king is coming to you,
humble, and mounted on a donkey,
anda on a colt, the foal of a beast of burden.’”

6The disciples went and did as Jesus had directed them. 7They brought the donkey and the colt and put on them their cloaks, and he sat on them. 8Most of the crowd spread their cloaks on the road, and others cut branches from the trees and spread them on the road. 9And the crowds that went before him and that followed him were shouting, “Hosanna to the Son of David! Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord! Hosanna in the highest!” 10And when he entered Jerusalem, the whole city was stirred up, saying, “Who is this?” 11And the crowds said, “This is the prophet Jesus, from Nazareth of Galilee.”

....

Paul had received by revelation a measure of grace according to God's purpose that he was to administer, dispense, oversee and manage in terms of its affairs, its doctrine and the building up of believers as a habitation of God through the Spirit.

This was to be done by faith and all under the stewardship of this grace that was given.

This was never offered to Israel nor was it a part of the commonwealth of Israel.

It was solely offered to the church as part of the manifold grace and wisdom of God according to God's purpose to reveal the mystery of Christ and the church.

It excluded Israel as a people and nation
.....BradC


In Defense of Israel will shake Christian theology. It scripturally proves that the Jewish people as a whole did not reject Jesus as Messiah. It will also prove that Jesus did not come to earth to be the Messiah. It will prove that there was a Calvary conspiracy between Rome, the high priest, and Herod to execute Jesus as an insurrectionist too dangerous to live. Since Jesus refused by word and deed to claim to be the Messiah, how can the Jews be blamed for rejecting what was never offered? Read this shocking expose, In Defense of Israel - John Hagee

...

1 John 2:22
Who is the liar, if not the one who denies that Jesus is the Messiah? This one is the antichrist: the one who denies the Father and the Son.
 
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are you a previously banned member - username Red33 - whose real name is actually Brad?

mind you, the "categorical" doctrine of the 'dispensational free grace mystery parenthesis church age" says:

"No act of obedience, preceding or following faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, such as commitment to obey, sorrow for sin, turning from one's sin, baptism, or submission to the Lordship of Christ, may be added to, or considered as a part of, faith as a condition for receiving eternal salvation (Romans 4:5; Galatians 2:16; Titus 3:5)."

Bible Doctrines, Categorical Bible Studies - Spokane Bible Church
www.spokanebiblechurch.com/.../Bible%20Doctrines/Bible-Doctrines.ht...‎

so i reckon it's all covered by grace.
no need to repent of nor confess any sin.

....

"Free Grace theology is a Christian soteriological view teaching that everyone receives eternal life the moment they believe in Jesus Christ as their personal Savior and Lord. "Lord" refers to the belief that Jesus is the Son of God and therefore able to be their "Savior".[1] The view distinguishes between the "call to believe" in Christ as a Savior and receiving the gift of eternal life, and the "call to follow" Christ and become obedient disciples,[1] meaning that the justified believer is free from any subsequent obligations unless he or she decides to undergo the process of sanctification.[2]

...in Hodges' book Absolutely Free! and later in more detail in his book, Harmony With God Hodges took the position that the process of repentance may be a preparatory step in coming to salvation, and should be evident in the life of a believer, but a lost man can be born again apart from repentance by any definition. Hodges also said he no longer held to the “change of mind” view of repentance. In Harmony with God Hodges said there is only one answer to the question, “What must I do to be saved?” Hodges emphatically stated, “Repentance is not part of that answer. It never has been and never will be.”

Free Grace theology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < click
As long as the 'Red Sox' keep winning in the playoff you can call me 'Red' whenever you want.

You are infatuated with all these false doctrines, false accusations, false brethren who you esteem and other forms of falsehood. You need light Zone, the right kind of light that will illuminate you and remove the darkness that you have been persuaded by. It could be very serious in the long run. Speaking evil of other believers on this site or anywhere else is just not the way of the Spirit nor the written word. That is a big huge NO NO and you should correct yourself by the grace of God and adjust to what the scriptures teach on it! You really seem to care if it not of the Spirit, your going to get your point and doctrine across no matter what. Where's the meekness, the fruit of meekness, the learning in meekness and the communication in meekness? Is meekness not a part of your life as a believer anymore? Your missing out and you seem to want others to follow in the same steps.
 

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As long as the 'Red Sox' keep winning in the playoff you can call me 'Red' whenever you want.

You are infatuated with all these false doctrines, false accusations...
are you previously banned Red33?

yes or no?
 

zone

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Deuteronomy 18:15
The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your fellow Israelites. You must listen to him.

Deuteronomy 18:18
I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their fellow Israelites, and I will put my words in his mouth. He will tell them everything I command him.

Malachi 4
4"Remember the law of Moses My servant, even the statutes and ordinances which I commanded him in Horeb for all Israel. 5"Behold, I am going to send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and terrible day of the LORD. 6"He will restore the hearts of the fathers to their children and the hearts of the children to their fathers, so that I will not come and smite the land with a curse."

Matthew 11:14
13"For all the prophets and the Law prophesied until John. 14"And if you are willing to accept it, John himself is Elijah who was to come. 15"He who has ears to hear, let him hear

John 1
Jesus Calls His First Disciples
40One of the two who heard John speak and followed Him, was Andrew, Simon Peter's brother. 41He found first his own brother Simon and said to him, "We have found the Messiah " (which translated means Christ). 42He brought him to Jesus. Jesus looked at him and said, "You are Simon the son of John; you shall be called Cephas " (which is translated Peter).

Matthew 21
The Triumphal Entry
1Now when they drew near to Jerusalem and came to Bethphage, to the Mount of Olives, then Jesus sent two disciples, 2saying to them, “Go into the village in front of you, and immediately you will find a donkey tied, and a colt with her. Untie them and bring them to me. 3If anyone says anything to you, you shall say, ‘The Lord needs them,’ and he will send them at once.” 4This took place to fulfill what was spoken by the prophet, saying,

5 “Say to the daughter of Zion,
‘Behold, your king is coming to you,
humble, and mounted on a donkey,
anda on a colt, the foal of a beast of burden.’”

6The disciples went and did as Jesus had directed them. 7They brought the donkey and the colt and put on them their cloaks, and he sat on them. 8Most of the crowd spread their cloaks on the road, and others cut branches from the trees and spread them on the road. 9And the crowds that went before him and that followed him were shouting, “Hosanna to the Son of David! Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord! Hosanna in the highest!” 10And when he entered Jerusalem, the whole city was stirred up, saying, “Who is this?” 11And the crowds said, “This is the prophet Jesus, from Nazareth of Galilee.”

....

Paul had received by revelation a measure of grace according to God's purpose that he was to administer, dispense, oversee and manage in terms of its affairs, its doctrine and the building up of believers as a habitation of God through the Spirit.

This was to be done by faith and all under the stewardship of this grace that was given.

This was never offered to Israel nor was it a part of the commonwealth of Israel.

It was solely offered to the church as part of the manifold grace and wisdom of God according to God's purpose to reveal the mystery of Christ and the church.

It excluded Israel as a people and nation
.....BradC


In Defense of Israel will shake Christian theology. It scripturally proves that the Jewish people as a whole did not reject Jesus as Messiah. It will also prove that Jesus did not come to earth to be the Messiah. It will prove that there was a Calvary conspiracy between Rome, the high priest, and Herod to execute Jesus as an insurrectionist too dangerous to live. Since Jesus refused by word and deed to claim to be the Messiah, how can the Jews be blamed for rejecting what was never offered? Read this shocking expose, In Defense of Israel - John Hagee

...

1 John 2:22
Who is the liar, if not the one who denies that Jesus is the Messiah? This one is the antichrist: the one who denies the Father and the Son.
As long as the 'Red Sox' keep winning in the playoff you can call me 'Red' whenever you want.

You are infatuated with all these false doctrines, false accusations
did Jesus come to be the Messiah of Israel?
was He the promised Messiah?
did God offer the Messiah, Jesus...and The New Covenant He Promised....to Israel?
did many receive Him?

He came for the lost sheep of Israel...did He find them?
did they know His Voice and follow Him?
 
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You need light Zone, the right kind of light that will illuminate you and remove the darkness that you have been persuaded by.
2 Cor 11:12-14 But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we. For such [are] false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
 

zone

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i see NO exception clause in this...for 'gentiles' in the mystery gentile church age parenthesis gap church in 2013:

1 John 2:22
Who is the liar, if not the one who denies that Jesus is the Messiah? This one is the antichrist: the one who denies the Father and the Son.
 

zone

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Where's the meekness, the fruit of meekness, the learning in meekness and the communication in meekness?
if i am really really really sweet and nice to you :) let's say for a couple of years, will you repent of - or at least consider repenting of the doctrine you hold?

history says no.

dear friend Red - PLEASE :) stop teaching heresy, stop saying Israel didn't get what God promised her, and stop laying guilt trips on people who reject antichrist xtian zionism.
 
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2 Cor 11:12-14 But what I do, that I will do, that I may cut off occasion from them which desire occasion; that wherein they glory, they may be found even as we. For such [are] false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
Would you like to explain the application of that passage of scripture that you are shooting for? Don't hesitate, I'm ready are you?
 
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if i am really really really sweet and nice to you :) let's say for a couple of years, will you repent of - or at least consider repenting of the doctrine you hold?

history says no.

dear friend Red - PLEASE :) stop teaching heresy, stop saying Israel didn't get what God promised her, and stop laying guilt trips on people who reject antichrist xtian zionism.
It looks like you have never studied the doctrine of meekness and have no application for it. You have the wrong premise so no one is going to repent of the truth that they have been persuaded by through the Spirit. That would be foolishness and a lack of integrity. Maturity in the things of God only establishes the truth and would never get us to deny it through some false system of repentance. You need light and lots of it, I hope you get it and soon.
 
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Would you like to explain the application of that passage of scripture that you are shooting for? Don't hesitate, I'm ready are you?
"Not a soul / But felt a fever of the mad and play'd / Some tricks of desperation. ... the first man that leap'd; cried, 'Hell is empty / And all the devils are here.'"
--Ariel, The Tempest, William Shakespeare (1611 :rolleyes:)


2 Cor 11:12-14 ... for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.
You need light Zone, the right kind of light that will illuminate you
 
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CooCaw, I just want you to know that I am supporting a local practicing Jew who has become an acquaintance through business. He is a good business man and handles his job very well. I have been able to earn his trust in a measure and look forward to an opportunity to present the gospel to him. Thanks for this thread, one that has purpose and meaning and is very relevant in these days we live in. I have also met many wonderful Jewish believers on this thread who have contributed much by way of understanding and appreciate their lives and how they have contributed.
 

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.......the "categorical" doctrine of the 'dispensational free grace mystery parenthesis church age" says:

"No act of obedience, preceding or following faith in the Lord Jesus Christ, such as commitment to obey, sorrow for sin, turning from one's sin, baptism, or submission to the Lordship of Christ, may be added to, or considered as a part of, faith as a condition for receiving eternal salvation (Romans 4:5; Galatians 2:16; Titus 3:5)."

Bible Doctrines, Categorical Bible Studies - Spokane Bible Church
http://christianchat.com/bible-disc...om/.../Bible Doctrines/Bible-Doctrines.ht...‎

....

"Free Grace theology is a Christian soteriological view teaching that everyone receives eternal life the moment they believe in Jesus Christ as their personal Savior and Lord. "Lord" refers to the belief that Jesus is the Son of God and therefore able to be their "Savior".[1] The view distinguishes between the "call to believe" in Christ as a Savior and receiving the gift of eternal life, and the "call to follow" Christ and become obedient disciples,[1] meaning that the justified believer is free from any subsequent obligations unless he or she decides to undergo the process of sanctification.[2]

...in Hodges' book Absolutely Free! and later in more detail in his book, Harmony With God Hodges took the position that the process of repentance may be a preparatory step in coming to salvation, and should be evident in the life of a believer, but a lost man can be born again apart from repentance by any definition. Hodges also said he no longer held to the “change of mind” view of repentance. In Harmony with God Hodges said there is only one answer to the question, “What must I do to be saved?” Hodges emphatically stated, “Repentance is not part of that answer. It never has been and never will be.”

Free Grace theology - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < click
Maturity in the things of God only establishes the truth and would never get us to deny it through some false system of repentance. You need light and lots of it, I hope you get it and soon.

"some false system of repentance"?

yes, that's right.
in this "Dispensation", THE DISPENSATION OF GRACE [the TWISTING of Paul's STEWARDSHIP] repentance from sin and unbelief (which includes the idolatry of wrong beliefs about GOD HIMSELF - The God of ISRAEL) is not required.


hmmm.....didn't i read on a disp. apologetics site the claim disp was accused wrongly of antinomianism?
 
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"Not a soul / But felt a fever of the mad and play'd / Some tricks of desperation. ... the first man that leap'd; cried, 'Hell is empty / And all the devils are here.'"
--Ariel, The Tempest, William Shakespeare (1611 :rolleyes:)
Whatever that means I know not and the application is even further in the distance. if that's your best, you can't be held responsible.