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Elin

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Those of you who are claiming to be spiritual jews (as I am)
should not boast against the original branch:)
Discussing Biblical truth is not boasting against anything any more than the NT does.
 
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CoooCaw

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well come on

you are the expert

what was the % christian at that time??? vs the % moslem

and what is it now??????????

who drained the malarial swamps in the jordan valley and how????


you know...i can not STAND LYING PROPAGANDA.
you clearly think the majority of your audience is uninformed (stupid) or doesn't care.

unfortunately for YOU - neither applies to me.
so let's see who has an interest doing what you do - SURPRISE! as if i didn't know.

i'll be reporting you from now on for knowingly posting false information.
any 12 year old that has even thought about this issue has encountered the Mark Twain trick.
disgusting.

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Travelers' impressions of 19th-century Palestine

In Chapters 46, 39, 52 and 56 of his Innocents Abroad, American author Mark Twain wrote of his visit to Palestine in 1867: "Palestine sits in sackcloth and ashes. Over it broods the spell of a curse that has withered its fields and fettered its energies. Palestine is desolate and unlovely -- Palestine is no more of this workday world. It is sacred to poetry and tradition, it is dreamland."(Chapter 56)[28] "There was hardly a tree or a shrub anywhere. Even the olive and the cactus, those fast friends of a worthless soil, had almost deserted the country". (Chapter 52)[29] "A desolation is here that not even imagination can grace with the pomp of life and action. We reached Tabor safely. We never saw a human being on the whole route". (Chapter 49)[30] "There is not a solitary village throughout its whole extent – not for thirty miles in either direction. ...One may ride ten miles (16 km) hereabouts and not see ten human beings." ...these unpeopled deserts, these rusty mounds of barrenness..."(Chapter 46)[31]

These descriptions of the often quoted non-arable areas few people would inhabit are as Twain says, "by contrast" to occasional scenes of arable land and productive agriculture: "The narrow canon in which Nablous, or Shechem, is situated, is under high cultivation, and the soil is exceedingly black and fertile. It is well watered, and its affluent vegetation gains effect by contrast with the barren hills that tower on either side"..."Sometimes, in the glens, we came upon luxuriant orchards of figs, apricots, pomegranates, and such things, but oftener the scenery was rugged, mountainous, verdureless and forbidding"..."We came finally to the noble grove of orange-trees in which the Oriental city of Jaffa lies buried"..."Small shreds and patches of it must be very beautiful in the full flush of spring, however, and all the more beautiful by contrast with the far-reaching desolation that surrounds them on every side [32]

Bayard Taylor who wrote of the Jezreel Valley in 1852 ".. one of the richest districts in the world"..."The soil is a dark-brown loam, and, without manure, produces annually superb crops of wheat and barley." [33] Laurence Oliphant wrote in 1887, again of the Valley of Jezreel "..a huge green lake of waving wheat, with its village-crowned mounds rising from it like islands ... it presents one of the most striking pictures of luxuriant fertility which it is possible to conceive"[34]

Kathleen Christison, an American author who spent sixteen years as an analyst for the CIA, was critical of attempts to use Twain's humorous writing as a literal description of Palestine at that time.

She writes that "Twain's descriptions are high in Israeli government press handouts that present a case for Israel's redemption of a land that had previously been empty and barren. His gross characterizations of the land and the people in the time before mass Jewish immigration are also often used by US propagandists for Israel."[35] For example she noted that Twain described the Samaritans of Nablus at length without mentioning the much larger Arab population at all.[36] The Arab population of Nablus at the time was about 20,000.[37]

Demographics of Palestine - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia < click


your JUNK just steels my resolve to make sure you don't keep getting away with this.

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for those who care:


THE 1948 ETHNIC CLEANSING
OF PALESTINE

ILAN PAPPE

http://palestine-studies.org/enakba/exodus/Pappe, The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine.pdf < click


MORE COMING..........
 
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The next time that some of you would like to jump on my back let me know in advance and I will strap a saddle to make your ride a little more pleasurable.
 
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The next time that some of you would like to jump on my back let me know in advance and I will strap a saddle to make your ride a little more pleasurable.
Psalm 20:7 Some [trust] in chariots, and some in horses: but we will remember the name of the LORD our God. 8 They are brought down and fallen: but we are risen, and stand upright.


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CoooCaw

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The Arabs in Palestine

As Hussein foresaw, the regeneration of Palestine, and the growth of its population, came only after Jews returned in massive numbers. The Jewish population increased by 470,000 between World War I and World War II while the non-Jewish population rose by 588,000. In fact, the permanent Arab population increased 120 percent between 1922 and 1947.

This rapid growth was a result of several factors. One was immigration from neighboring states — constituting 37 percent of the total immigration to pre-state Israel — by Arabs who wanted to take advantage of the higher standard of living the Jews had made possible. The Arab population also grew because of the improved living conditions created by the Jews as they drained malarial swamps and brought improved sanitation and health care to the region. Thus, for example, the Muslim infant mortality rate fell from 201 per thousand in 1925 to 94 per thousand in 1945 and life expectancy rose from 37 years in 1926 to 49 in 1943.


The Arab population increased the most in cities with large Jewish populations that had created new economic opportunities. From 19221947, the non-Jewish population increased 290 percent in Haifa, 131 percent in Jerusalem and 158 percent in Jaffa. The growth in Arab towns was more modest: 42 percent in Nablus, 78 percent in Jenin and 37 percent in Bethlehem.



see the link to read about..

Jewish Land Purchases
 
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This rapid growth was a result of several factors. One was immigration from neighboring states — constituting 37 percent of the total immigration to pre-state Israel — by Arabs who wanted to take advantage of the higher standard of living the Jews had made possible. The Arab population also grew because of the improved living conditions created by the Jews as they drained malarial swamps and brought improved sanitation and health care to the region. Thus, for example, the Muslim infant mortality rate fell from 201 per thousand in 1925 to 94 per thousand in 1945 and life expectancy rose from 37 years in 1926 to 49 in 1943.
But Israel is still "in line for some discipline", right CoooCaw? :confused:

This is post #689 and it's
still unclear what the actual topic of this thread is. :(

What say you CoooCaw?
:confused:


We already know that Israel is in line for some discipline; we also know that what you have been sowing you gonna reap bigtime!
 
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CoooCaw

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But Israel is still "in line for some discipline", right CoooCaw? :confused:

This is post #689 and it's
still unclear what the actual topic of this thread is. :(

What say you CoooCaw?
:confused:
I will also gather all nations, and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, and will plead with them there for my people and for my heritage Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations, and parted my land.


they will not be punished for acquiring land but for giving it away

and the United Nations will pay big time for taking Israel\s land
 
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Married_Richenbrachen

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and the United Nations will pay big time for taking Israel\s land
But didn't the United Nations give some of that land in the first place? So the United Nations giveth, and the United Nations taketh away, blessed be the...? This sounds like a false god to me.

I think the world-wide communist organisation needs a good punishing, but not for the reasons you state.
 
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Kerry

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But didn't the United Nations give some of that land in the first place? So the United Nations giveth, and the United Nations taketh away, blessed be the...? This sounds like a false god to me.

I think the world-wide communist organisation needs a good punishing, but not for the reasons you state.
In 1947 the UN tried to give them land in South America. This was rejected by the jews and a preacher wrote to the president of America and said that they should have the land of the bible. The UN rejected, but then gave in. Then they were concerned over what the nation should be called. Israel was rejected, but another preacher wrote to the secretary of the UN and Israel was accepted as it's name. Just like the bible predicted "Shall I make a nation in one day" and it was so
 
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In 1947 the UN tried to give them land in South America. This was rejected by the jews and a preacher wrote to the president of America and said that they should have the land of the bible. The UN rejected, but then gave in. Then they were concerned over what the nation should be called. Israel was rejected, but another preacher wrote to the secretary of the UN and Israel was accepted as it's name. Just like the bible predicted "Shall I make a nation in one day" and it was so
So you don't think it could be a clever deception appearing to fulfill a bible prophecy that was already fulfilled, in an attempt to deceive people that probably otherwise wouldn't be deceived?

It just doesn't seem that hard to me for people with unlimited money and a lot of power (e.g. Rothschilds, UN communists) to say... "Hmmm, we're going to rename this plot of land Israel, and cause all those calling themselves Jews from Europe and elsewhere to migrate, by paying them money if they do, and causing oppression and fear where they live if they don't." But maybe that's just me and what I'd do if I were hell-bent on deceiving the world.
 
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CoooCaw

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ok, here I am with the white cane......

this is a prophecy from Joel 3:2

"I will also gather all nations <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< THE UNITED NATIONS DER!!!!!!!!!!




and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, <<<Kidron Valley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


and will plead with them there <<< BETWEEN THE TEMPLE MOUNT AND THE MOUNT OF OLIVES


for my people and for my heritage Israel <<< God's LAND and God's PEOPLE

whom they << ie The united nations

have scattered <<<< PREVIOUSLY

among the nations, and parted my land. << THE UN HAS DONE THIS prior to the fulfillment of the prophecy - obviously still in our future


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jahsoul

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ok, here I am with the white cane......

this is a prophecy from Joel 3:2

"I will also gather all nations <<<<<<<<<<<<<<< THE UNITED NATIONS DER!!!!!!!!!!




and will bring them down into the valley of Jehoshaphat, <<<Kidron Valley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


and will plead with them there <<< BETWEEN THE TEMPLE MOUNT AND THE MOUNT OF OLIVES


for my people and for my heritage Israel <<< God's LAND and God's PEOPLE

whom they << ie The united nations

have scattered <<<< PREVIOUSLY

among the nations, and parted my land. << THE UN HAS DONE THIS prior to the fulfillment of the prophecy - obviously still in our future


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So the United Nations scattered the Children of Israel among the nations? You underlined "and" but left out what preceded it. So for that narrative to fit, the United Nations would have had to scatter the Children of Israel among the nations AND parted the land.
 
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CoooCaw

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yes it is all future; do you need 2 white canes?





So the United Nations scattered the Children of Israel among the nations? You underlined "and" but left out what preceded it. So for that narrative to fit, the United Nations would have had to scatter the Children of Israel among the nations AND parted the land.
 
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yes it is all future; do you need 2 white canes?
So it's a future event (the UN scattering them and dividing their land) of something that has already happened thousands of years ago (The Children of Israel being scattered and loosing their land) that leads to promises of the "Jews" getting their promised land back forever which "miraculously" happened in 1948, but in the future, the State of Israel will be scattered and land divided, which leads to the circle of contradictions.
 

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Amosyah 5:26, "Instead you have lifted up the idolatrous temple of Molech; your god and Chiun your star-god the star of your god which you made for yourselves."
 

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Amosyah 5:26, "Instead you have lifted up the idolatrous temple of Molech; your god and Chiun your star-god the star of your god which you made for yourselves."
most have no clue whats going on here
 
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CoooCaw

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So it's a future event (the UN scattering them and dividing their land) of something that has already happened thousands of years ago (The Children of Israel being scattered and loosing their land) that leads to promises of the "Jews" getting their promised land back forever which "miraculously" happened in 1948, but in the future, the State of Israel will be scattered and land divided, which leads to the circle of contradictions.
you may be right; some of it may already have happened

but has God ever taken on the UN in the valley of Jehosophat??