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Elin

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Very gracious of you. Good night from Spain............Desde España, buenas noches..........
Desde America, gratias.

No hable Espanol.
 
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A bunch of Jews.

[video=youtube;kseBpgJsuEM]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kseBpgJsuEM[/video]

 
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iamsoandso

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but then there was also "the council of yavneh",,,,,which led to all this misunderstanding,,,,,,
 
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BradC

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Doc my best friend in the whole world is a jew. my family is jewish (lapsed/assimilated).
i'm good to jews. i go to a jewish website and have for years.

they are not the problem (except that criminal element that insists on hiding in the masses - criminals are criminals...not holy people).
xtian zionists are the problem. in case you missed me saying so ten thousand times.

and no, God hasn't mercifully or for any other reason blinded them.
they are free to come to Christ if they continue NOT in their hatred of Him and unbelief.

stop making God the author of their SIN and UNBELIEF.

for your ridiculous Plan B fable. grow up. or not.
i don't care.

moving along.
You and your plan B. There's no plan B, you just like to accuse me and others of ascribing to such a notion. There's just God's plan and if it doesn't work out for man because of his terrible decisions and sin, then God has a plan for that to. You see, it's all God's plan and he works all things together for the good because all things are of God, and they are for our sakes. But that upsets you and you think that we make God partial toward the Jews because he has a plan for them, the people who he has chosen for his elect. Whether they live in unbelief or not they are still God's people and he will judge them accordingly and he doesn't need you or me butting in with our crazy doctrine. He needs us to do what he has called us to do and minister the gospel to every creature and to edify the body of Christ. That's not difficult, but it takes grace and the Holy Spirit to do it all in the love of God. The church won't be here when God brings terrible chastisement to the children of Israel (using the world to do it) to bring their heart to a place of repentance to receive the Messiah. Isn't that what you want, the salvation of Israel? That's what God is after and no, God is not a minister of sin or unbelief, so you can knock off with that also.
 

Elin

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The greatest example I can think of that illustrates confrontational evangelism is when the Lord confronted Saul on the road to Damascus and suddenly shone a light from heaven round about him that he fell to the earth and heard the voice of the Lord. Direct confrontation right from heaven and you can't get anymore confrontational then that, do you think?
Stephen wasn't too shabby in Ac 7:51-60:

"You stiff-necked people with uncircumcised hearts and ears!
You are just like your fathers: You always resist the Holy Spirit!
Was there ever a prophet your fathers did not persecute?

"They even killed those who predicted the coming of the Righteous (Just) One.
And now you have betrayed and murdered him--you who have received the law
that was put into effect through angels but have not obeyed it."

It cost him his life.
 
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BradC

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Stephen wasn't too shabby in Ac 7:51-60:

"You stiff-necked people with uncircumcised hearts and ears!
You are just like your fathers: You always resist the Holy Spirit!
Was there ever a prophet your fathers did not persecute?

"They even killed those who predicted the coming of the Righteous (Just) One.
And now you have betrayed and murdered him--you who have received the law
that was put into effect through angels but have not obeyed it."

It cost him his life.
Not too shabby!
 
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CoooCaw

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back atya you silly girl

the giveaway is that you are the one who is rattled - ie uncertain

I am amused and bemused

why dont you nail your colours to the mask

instead of attacking sound Bible doctrine, tell us exactly what you believe regarding eschatology Jews and the Church

are you really willing to stake your eternal soul on this false system you're addicted to?
it's not easy coming out of dispensationalism.
i know you can't stand me...or anyone who rattles this cage - but i assure you, this is heresy and is thoroughly antichrist.
if you want help backing out of it and finding your way into what the Bible really says, PM me.
i will not share with anyone that you have.
i can help you, if you want it.

but believe me CooCaw, you really have to want out of this mess.
if the Holy Spirit is not prompting you that something's wrong with your beliefs, you're in a lot of trouble.
if He is (He is The Spirit of Truth)...send me a message.
there is a way out.

zone.
 
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CoooCaw

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I have never misrepresented what they are in their unsaved state

it cost 6million jews to get their country back

another 2/3 will die before they submit to their messiah

the joys of being the chosen people

if you read the OT carefully, at the beginning, God warned them it might come to this.

not to mention the gambling; human trafficking (white slavery); organ trafficking; organized crime; prostitution; abortions; drug smuggling and manufacture; banking fraud; murder; warmongering; racism...and on and on....

this is not different form any other decadent western society.
these are overwhelmingly unregenerate peoples....doing just what we once did.

yet this is God's Holy Land? and holy people?

how so?

they are free to live this way and make their choices - as all apparently are.
but please....don't tell my this is God's holy people.
most are atheists.
 
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CoooCaw

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if you do not believe the text of the bible or know any history, it is doubtful you can be enlightened


It was fulfilled in their return from exile under Nehemiah.


They will be uprooted when the heavens disappear with a roar; the elements are destroyed by fire, and the earth and everything in it will be laid bare (2Pe 3:10).

It's not literal. . .so it must be figurative of the Kingdom of Messiah, which will not be uprooted in the world, or anywhere else, or at any time.
 

zone

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You and your plan B. There's no plan B, you just like to accuse me and others of ascribing to such a notion. There's just God's plan and if it doesn't work out for man because of his terrible decisions and sin, then God has a plan for that to. You see, it's all God's plan and he works all things together for the good because all things are of God, and they are for our sakes. But that upsets you and you think that we make God partial toward the Jews because he has a plan for them, the people who he has chosen for his elect. Whether they live in unbelief or not they are still God's people and he will judge them accordingly and he doesn't need you or me butting in with our crazy doctrine. He needs us to do what he has called us to do and minister the gospel to every creature and to edify the body of Christ. That's not difficult, but it takes grace and the Holy Spirit to do it all in the love of God. The church won't be here when God brings terrible chastisement to the children of Israel (using the world to do it) to bring their heart to a place of repentance to receive the Messiah. Isn't that what you want, the salvation of Israel? That's what God is after and no, God is not a minister of sin or unbelief, so you can knock off with that also.
you mean you don't subscribe to pretrib rapture for the Mystery Church Age Church?
that's Plan B.
 

zone

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instead of attacking sound Bible doctrine, tell us exactly what you believe regarding eschatology Jews and the Church
cough cough.
don't say i didn't offer.
 

zone

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it cost 6million jews to get their country back
really!
interesting.
tell me more about that theory.

another 2/3 will die before they submit to their messiah
rubbish dispensationalism

the joys of being the chosen people
ya....6 million (supposedly) killed in WW2....then 2/3 killed in order for a few to be saved.
i don't know your god.

if you read the OT carefully, at the beginning, God warned them it might come to this.
which OT?
not the real one.
you're a footnotes man.
 
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CoooCaw

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really!
interesting.
tell me more about that theory.



rubbish dispensationalism



ya....6 million (supposedly) killed in WW2....then 2/3 killed in order for a few to be saved.
i don't know your god.



which OT?
not the real one.
you're a footnotes man.
ad hominem

40If they shall confess their iniquity, and the iniquity of their fathers, with their trespass which they trespassed against me, and that also they have walked contrary unto me; 41And that I also have walked contrary unto them, and have brought them into the land of their enemies; if then their uncircumcised hearts be humbled, and they then accept of the punishment of their iniquity: 42Then will I remember my covenant with Jacob, and also my covenant with Isaac, and also my covenant with Abraham will I remember; and I will remember the land. 43The land also shall be left of them, and shall enjoy her sabbaths, while she lieth desolate without them: and they shall accept of the punishment of their iniquity: because, even because they despised my judgments, and because their soul abhorred my statutes. 44And yet for all that, when they be in the land of their enemies, I will not cast them away, neither will I abhor them, to destroy them utterly, and to break my covenant with them: for I am the LORD their God. 45But I will for their sakes remember the covenant of their ancestors, whom I brought forth out of the land of Egypt in the sight of the heathen, that I might be their God: I am the LORD.
 

zone

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ad hominem

40If they shall confess their iniquity, and the iniquity of their fathers, with their trespass which they trespassed against me, and that also they have walked contrary unto me; 41And that I also have walked contrary unto them, and have brought them into the land of their enemies; if then their uncircumcised hearts be humbled, and they then accept of the punishment of their iniquity: 42Then will I remember my covenant with Jacob, and also my covenant with Isaac, and also my covenant with Abraham will I remember; and I will remember the land. 43The land also shall be left of them, and shall enjoy her sabbaths, while she lieth desolate without them: and they shall accept of the punishment of their iniquity: because, even because they despised my judgments, and because their soul abhorred my statutes. 44And yet for all that, when they be in the land of their enemies, I will not cast them away, neither will I abhor them, to destroy them utterly, and to break my covenant with them: for I am the LORD their God. 45But I will for their sakes remember the covenant of their ancestors, whom I brought forth out of the land of Egypt in the sight of the heathen, that I might be their God: I am the LORD.

can't do much for ya.
apparently the arrival of Emmanuel means little if anything to you.
smashing arabs and taking Greater israel means something tho.

night.
 

PennEd

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ad hominem

40If they shall confess their iniquity, and the iniquity of their fathers, with their trespass which they trespassed against me, and that also they have walked contrary unto me; 41And that I also have walked contrary unto them, and have brought them into the land of their enemies; if then their uncircumcised hearts be humbled, and they then accept of the punishment of their iniquity: 42Then will I remember my covenant with Jacob, and also my covenant with Isaac, and also my covenant with Abraham will I remember; and I will remember the land. 43The land also shall be left of them, and shall enjoy her sabbaths, while she lieth desolate without them: and they shall accept of the punishment of their iniquity: because, even because they despised my judgments, and because their soul abhorred my statutes. 44And yet for all that, when they be in the land of their enemies, I will not cast them away, neither will I abhor them, to destroy them utterly, and to break my covenant with them: for I am the LORD their God. 45But I will for their sakes remember the covenant of their ancestors, whom I brought forth out of the land of Egypt in the sight of the heathen, that I might be their God: I am the LORD.

I admire your persistence, but your'e dealing with a person who has a deep seated hatred for Jews. She spends almost every one of her many posts doing everything in her power to get others to hate them as well. We know this is her goal not only in trying to twist and confuse people regarding Scripture, but she also is a holocaust denier. Even If someone bought her garbage she tries to peddle on Scripture regarding the Jews, the fact that she won't even accept recent history on their persecution, TELLS you that she hates these people.

I for one, am extremely disappointed by CC in not pulling the plug on this person, she goes beyond discussing doctrinal differences, it will likely result on me pulling the plug on this site.
 

zone

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I admire your persistence, but your'e dealing with a person who has a deep seated hatred for Jews. She spends almost every one of her many posts doing everything in her power to get others to hate them as well. We know this is her goal not only in trying to twist and confuse people regarding Scripture, but she also is a holocaust denier. Even If someone bought her garbage she tries to peddle on Scripture regarding the Jews, the fact that she won't even accept recent history on their persecution, TELLS you that she hates these people.

I for one, am extremely disappointed by CC in not pulling the plug on this person, she goes beyond discussing doctrinal differences, it will likely result on me pulling the plug on this site.
open a thread on holocaust history.
see you there.

big talker - big manipulator. no facts.
unfortunately for you....i've studied the issue.
i'll watch for your thread.
document all your claims.
 
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CoooCaw

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I have friends who live in greater israel

can't do much for ya.
apparently the arrival of Emmanuel means little if anything to you.
smashing arabs and taking Greater israel means something tho.

night.