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Romans, 11;25,,,,"until the fullness of the gentiles be come in",,,,,,,,then they will be grafted back in,they will say "blessed is he that come in the name of the lord",,,but first they fall,,,,then they are grafted back in,,,,i am in the midst of loving you,,,,,,,,
Cool, thanks for the music.
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"must have been mistaken" ... What? Acts 22:3 I am verily a man [which am] a Jew, born in Tarsus, [a city] in Cilicia, yet brought up in this city at the feet of Gamaliel, [and] taught according to the perfect manner of the law of the fathers, and was zealous toward God, as ye all are this day. (KJV PCE)
שְׁמַע יִשְׂרָאֵל
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The term, Jew, has become the umbrella title of all born into the descendants of Israel or converted to their faith.
A person born into a Jewish family is a Jew, just as anyone born into a Christian family is a Christian, just as anyone born in a given country is that nationality, or anyone born into any religion is that religion. When and if an individual wishes to change this situation, he or she may come his or her age of reason. Yes, people are born into religion and nationality.
This has always been the case, and no amount of dizzifying intellectual nonsense will ever change this fact, unless of course those who have chosen to love evil believe it, for they are under a spirit of delusion.
A person born into a Jewish family is a Jew, just as anyone born into a Christian family is a Christian, just as anyone born in a given country is that nationality, or anyone born into any religion is that religion. When and if an individual wishes to change this situation, he or she may come his or her age of reason. Yes, people are born into religion and nationality.
This has always been the case, and no amount of dizzifying intellectual nonsense will ever change this fact, unless of course those who have chosen to love evil believe it, for they are under a spirit of delusion.
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The Gentiles have the gospel ministered to them in just about every nation, but this thread concerns the Jews, if I am not mistaken.
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There's a couple that I do dogsitting for and one of the women is Jewish, so fairly recently. And they remember very well what I was like when I was drinking, which I hope gives some gravity to my testimony. They're still lesbians though...
What have you confessed to them with your tongue concerning the Lord Jesus Christ and the cross of Calvary? Have they heard from you about God's great salvation and the forgiveness of sins and have you risked it all for love sake because their souls are in the balance of life and death? How shall they hear unless we tell them?
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Ahah we have a touchy subject. The abrahamic covenant is still in affect to the christian as well as the Hebrew. If we are children of faith we are children of Abraham as he is the father of faith and has children as numerous as the stars as promised. However, the seed of Abraham hold a special place in the heart of the Father. Look at Israel now. They are leaps ahead in engineering and agriculture which was just 30 years ago a dessert. They are prospering and will continue to do so as they are His prophetic clock and most of them are atheist. So why is God blessing them, His promise and the end times as we call them although they are not the end and will never be an end as far as we know. In the face of their enemies they continue to prosper, they are Gods witness as the church has failed to do so. Remember prior to 1948 there was no Israel and they became a country in a day as spoken by the word of God. So treat them kindly as a nation, but as far as individual treat them as you would biblical treat a neighbor.
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Your witness to these things happening in Israel is true but to some that post here it is nothing but poppycock and rubbish. They refuse to see the faithfulness of God to what he has promised or the goodness of God that has brought favor upon them. Their faith is limited because they have a wrong understanding about Israel and the church.
I've told anyone who will listen all of that and much more. I'm charged by Jesus Christ to love God more than any person (myself included).
Luke 10:25 ¶ And, behold, a certain lawyer stood up, and tempted him, saying, Master, what shall I do to inherit eternal life? 26 He said unto him, What is written in the law? how readest thou? 27 And he answering said, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy strength, and with all thy mind; and thy neighbour as thyself. 28 And he said unto him, Thou hast answered right: this do, and thou shalt live.
Luke 14:26 If any [man] come to me, and hate not his father, and mother, and wife, and children, and brethren, and sisters, yea, and his own life also, he cannot be my disciple.
The core issue in terms of loving my neighbor is warning them about the hell, right? And it's a gospel for all humanity, not just Jews and Greeks.
Rom 1:16 For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to the Greek.
ΠΡΟΣ ΡΩΜΑΙΟΥΣ 1:16 ου γαρ επαισχυνομαι το ευαγγελιον του χριστου δυναμις γαρ θεου εστιν εις σωτηριαν παντι τω πιστευοντι ιουδαιω τε πρωτον και ελληνι
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if you want to be here during the tribulation that is your problem
I have not specified a timetable for Jews to return to Israel
When Jesus returns he will send his angels to gather the elect(ie his brethren the jews) from the four winds
I actually borrowed the title of the thread from Jack Chick;
Support your local Jew: Jack T Chick: Amazon.com: Books
I have not specified a timetable for Jews to return to Israel
When Jesus returns he will send his angels to gather the elect(ie his brethren the jews) from the four winds
I actually borrowed the title of the thread from Jack Chick;
Support your local Jew: Jack T Chick: Amazon.com: Books
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Why are so many afraid of confrontational evangelism? We want to show them the gospel in hopes they will see Christ in us but we hesitate to confess with our mouth that same Jesus who came to SEEK and SAVE that which is lost, who are both Jew and Gentile. We believe by faith in our heart and we do the work of confessing that faith with our tongue. Don't take 1 John 3:18 out of context when it concerns verse 17 of having the world's goods and seeing your brother have need and you shut up your bowels of compassion. Who has believed our REPORT and how shall they HEAR without a PREACHER?
People are not afraid of anything, however most who believe refrain from practices and dogmas not in the Word, or at least not perceived by them as taught in the Word.
Think about this: Confrontation! or Winning converts by our love for each other and for others. Which is from Yeshua, Jesus? Hint, it is taught in the Book, John.
Think about this: Confrontation! or Winning converts by our love for each other and for others. Which is from Yeshua, Jesus? Hint, it is taught in the Book, John.
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That's another problem with this thread then, the original poster follows a false teacher.
It's a good thing you have me and xuanvuive2013 so at least you have good music.
Jack Chick's False Gospel
Jack Chick's False Gospel
Chick Tracts are Dangerous!
By David J. Stewart
Jack Chick does not believe that faith in Christ is enough to be saved; he also teaches that a sinner MUST have intentions to reform to be saved. That is a very false gospel, ANOTHER GOSPEL. Mr. Chick can try to hide behind his statement of faith, which is vague; but his tracts, every one of them, teach the Lordship Salvation heresy!!!
A man told me that he wouldn't get saved for a long time, because Jack Chick's Chick Tracts had taught him that God wouldn't save him unless he was willing to stop shacking up with his girlfriend in fornication. Since the man wasn't willing to turn from some of the sins in his life, he thought he couldn't be saved. I think that's a big issue and Jack Chick is corrupting the gospel, adding a step that God never added to be saved. We are the SINNERS and Jesus is the SAVIOR... it's that simple! A person is saved if they acknowledge their guilt of sin before God (Romans 3:19) and trust upon Jesus, the Christ, the Son of God (John 20:31)!!!
I am sick and tired of Christian leaders being loyal to each other instead of the Bible. Anything can be justified. It is apostasy! I see pastors of large churches blindly supporting other pastors who deny the inspiration of the King James Bible. They're a disgrace to the ministry!!! Get right with God you Bible-inspiration-denying imposter!
And then I see influential Christian authors and leaders supporting men like Jack Chick who teach millions of people that they cannot be saved unless they surrender to Christ and are willing to stop sinning. In step one Jack Chick says to admit you are a sinner, and then in step two he requires people to be willing to turn from sin (repent). Biblical repentance only requires step one; not step two. Since this is a separate step from admitting you're a sinner, clearly Jack Chick expects people to reform to be saved. This is a false gospel and I'm going to contend for the Christian faith against anyone who hinders sinners from coming to Christ for salvation. Jack Chick is hindering sinners from coming to Christ!
I am not being unkind, but it's time for Christians to stop getting their theology from Hollywood movie stars like Kirk Cameron, high-level Freemasons like Pat Robertson (who was ordained into the ministry at the Freemason Street Baptist Church), Council On Foreign Relations [CFR] members like Rick Warren, and cartoon artists like Jack Chick. WHAT SAITH THE SCRIPTURE? WHAT SAITH THE SCRIPTURE? WHAT SAITH THE SCRIPTURE? WHAT SAITH THE SCRIPTURE?
All of these men teach that faith in Christ is not sufficient for salvation unless a person is willing to surrender their life to Christ and be willing to stop sinning. This is salvation by WORKS (which is not salvation at all, Romans 11:6). The Bible speaks plainly in Romans 4:5, “But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is counted for righteousness.”That's what saith the Scripture! How much clearer could the Word of God be... but to him that WORKETH NOT... HIS FAITH IS COUNTED FOR RIGHTEOUSNESS!!!
Jack Chick and others like him need to get out of the driver's seat and stop trying to do the Holy Spirit's job of convicting sinners concerning their sins and the changes that need to be made in one's life. That's God's department.
Mr. Chick's artwork is captivating and unsurpassed in quality. It is certainly true that Chick Tracts get read.
Unfortunately, Jack Chick is doctrinally flawed (as are many religious leaders, authors, and influential people in churches today). Chick Tracts are recognized worldwide. Mr. Chick's ministry has receivedtens-of-millions of dollars in revenues from the sale of his religious cartoon tracts. The ministry boasts of having sold over 500,000,000 copies worldwide!
Tragically, many people are being deceived by Mr. Chick's false gospel. Truly the love of money is the root of all evil (1st Timothy 6:10).
The following page appears on the back of all Chick Tracts...
In step #2 on how to go to Heaven, Jack Chick teaches damnable heresy... “Be willing to turn from sin (repent).” This is unbiblical. To require sinners to “be willing to turn from sin” to be saved is an act of self-righteousness.
Carefully notice that this is not acknowledging one's sinnership, for that is requirement #1 in Chick Tracts. Jack Chick adds an entirely new requirement to be saved; not only admitting one's guilt of being a sinner, but also being willing to cease from those sins. In effect, Jack Chick is trying to do the Holy Spirit's job. Instead of allowing God to change a person who has come to Christ to be saved; Jack Chick requires sinners to change themselves as a prerequisite to placing their faith in Christ. This is a false gospel of qualification by works. 2nd Corinthians 11:3-4 warns us about “another gospel.”
Jack Chick has perverted the Gospel. The word “repent” in the Bible simply means “a change of mind”; not a change of behavior. Jack Chick cites Acts 17:30 as evidence of his perversion of the Gospel... “And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent.” Although it is certainly true that repentance is necessary for salvation, the Bible does not teach that a sinner must “be willing to turn from sin” in order to be saved. Jack Chick wrongly assumes that repentance means from sin; thus, he has fabricated his own false gospel of works salvation. This is a very serious issue, because if one's wrong on salvation—they're wrong on everything.
Please read REPENT! REPENT! REPENT! to learn the Biblical meaning of repentance.
Also, I just want to point out that California appears to be a hot-bed of heresy, considering that John MacArthur, Jack Chick, Ray Comfort, and Kirk Cameron are all based in the state of California.
Jack Chick's teaching on repentance is that you cannot come to Christ for salvation unless you first intend not to walk in sin after you receive Him. This is “qualification by works” as a prerequisite for receiving Christ as Savior.
Also, notice the prayer that Jack Chick leads sinners to pray in order to be saved. He includes the phrase... “I am willing to turn from sin.” This is of the Devil. Salvation is a free gift, NOT conditioned upon our willingness to turn from sin. You can't show me one Scripture where the Word of God requires someone to be willing to forsake their sins to be saved. Again, it is “qualification by works” as a prerequisite for receiving Christ as Savior. Please notice that the words “believe” and “believeth” are found 85-times in the Gospel of John; but the word “repent” is NOT mentioned even once. Clearly, the man who believes on Christ has repented. That is what Biblical repentance is...turning to God by faith in Jesus' name to be forgiven of one's sins.
Romans 4:5 plainly states... “But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the ungodly, his faith is COUNTED for righteousness.” Did you read that? ... a man's faith is COUNTED for righteousness!!! This means that a person can be saved and continue living in sin. Before you get upset, you'd better stop and realize that the Bible is filled with believers who lived in horrible sin. Noah was a drunkard. Samson was a whoremonger. David was an adulterer and murderer. Rahab was a prostitute. Isaiah had a dirty mouth. Jonah ran from God. Peter denied and cursed the name of Jesus. Ananias and Sapphira stole from the church. The church at Corinth had a serious problem with church members committing fornication, fighting against each other, suing one another, and even showing up drunk at the Lord's Supper.
Jack Chick's Own Words Condemn Him
Jack Chick cites Acts 17:30 in support of his heresy. Carefully notice in Acts 17:30 that God COMMANDSall sinners to “repent” in order to be saved. Repentance is NOT optional. So “being willing” to repent is not enough! God orders us to REPENT!!! If repentance is merely being "willing" to turn from sin, as Jack Chick defines it, then salvation cannot occur. The Word of God plainly states that there can be no salvation without repentance. Yet, Jack Chick defines repentance as merely being "willing" to turn from sin (not actually doing anything about one's sins). Clearly, Jack Chick's definition of repentance is impossible, because how can you only be "willing" to do something that God absolutely requires you to do to be saved? Obviously Jack Chick is wrong on the Biblically meaning of repentance.
BEWARE: Another Gospel
Thank God—a believer's salvation is rooted in Jesus' righteousness, and not our own—because we have no righteousness of our own to offer God. 2nd Corinthians 5:21 states, "For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him." Our only hope is in the precious blood of Jesus Christ. The following page is from the Chick Tract, This Was Your Life...
Chick Tracts seem to have a different answer than the Bible to the question, "What must I do to be saved?"
Surrender your life to Christ? That's Lordship Salvation!
On their website's statement of faith, they state concerning salvation:
"Salvation is the gift of God and includes the forgiveness of sins, the imputation of the Righteousness of Jesus Christ, and the gift of eternal life. Union with the triune God provides all blessings in this life and the life hereafter. Salvation is received by faith alone, apart from all good works and merit."SOURCE: Statement of faith
Yet, Mr. Chick horribly contradicts himself in every tract he writes when he REQUIRES lost sinners to "Be willing to turn from sin" to be saved. No Sir! Why doesn't he state that in his statement of faith? This is deception! Jesus plainly said in Revelation 21:6... "I will give unto him that is athirst of the fountain of the water of life FREELY." Jesus said in John 7:28, "He that believeth on me, as the scripture hath said, out of his belly shall flow rivers of living water."
It is false doctrine to require lost sinners to "be willing to turn from sin" as part of saving grace. Jesus shed His precious blood to pay for our sins, because our own self-righteousness could NOT save us. Isaiah 64:6 declares our own self-righteousness as "filthy rags" in the sight of God Almighty. Matthew 6:33 commands... "But seek ye first the kingdom of God, and HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS; and all these things shall be added unto you." To go to Heaven my friend, you need HIS RIGHTEOUSNESS, i.e., Jesus' righteousness. We read in Romans 10:3,4... "For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God. For Christ is the end of the law for righteousness to every one that believeth." Jack Chick asks sinners to establish their own righteousness when he tells them they MUST "be willing to turn from sin" in order to have God's free gift of eternal life.
For years, I ignorantly supported Jack Chick's ministry, not realizing that he was teaching the Lordship Salvation heresy. After several months of conviction by the Holy Spirit, I decided I needed to do the right thing and stop distributing Chick Tracts. I speak the truth without apology. Say what you will about how much Chick Tracts get read... it makes them all that much more dangerous, especially to children. Jack Chick is wrong on salvation! As with Ray Comfort, John MacArthur and other Lordship Salvationists, Jack Chick speaks double-talk, i.e., he says one thing in his official doctrinal statement, and something completely different in his Chick Tracts. The doctrinal content in Chick Tracts is 100% contradictory to Mr. Chick's official doctrinal statement.
Most of the false prophets teaching the heresy of Lordship Salvation are from California (John Mac Arthur, Ray Comfort, Kirk Cameron, Jack Chick, et cetera). California is a hotbed of false prophets! Lordship Salvation is the teaching that a person must stop living in sin to be saved. In Jack Chick's case, he's a bit more subtle, teaching that it's not enough to admit one's sinnership to be saved; but a person must also be willing to stop living in sin to be saved. These are all damnable heresies that destroy the gift of God. You don't give up anything to be saved; Jesus gave up everything to pay for our sins. Jesus came into the world to SAVE SINNERS! If you want to be saved, then repent toward God by placing your faith in Jesus Christ, the Son of God, to forgive your sins. It's that simple. God will take care of the rest from there.
Conclusion
Jack Chick is a false prophet! Stop trying to force people to live right by corrupting the simple plan of salvation! I realize that Mr. Chick has done MUCH to promote other ministries and Christian authors who are diligently fighting against the evils of Catholicism, Wicca, et cetera (and I can appreciate that); BUT, I cannot sit back as a God-fearing believer and remain silent while Jack Chick is telling millions of people that they MUST "be willing to turn from sin" to be saved. Mr. Chick fails to explain what he means in his tracts by the phrase, "be willing to turn from sin." The only reasonable conclusion that a person can assume is that they cannot be saved unless they are willing to cease from their sinful living (which is untrue!).
I recently received a letter from a gentleman, who told me that for many years he was reluctant to get saved, because he had read aChick Tract and genuinely thought God wouldn't save him unless he was willing to stop living in sin. The man expressed his frustration that he would have died and went straight to Hell because of Jack T. Chick, if it weren't for a dear saint of God, who explained to him from the Bible that eternal life is a free gift of God which is NOT conditioned upon a lifestyle change or willingness to clean up one's life. Jack Chick is teaching heresy and should be avoided by all soulwinning ministries. My recommendation is to write and draw your own Gospel tracts. People will look at your pictures just as eagerly as they will Mr. Chick's.
I am not happy to expose Jack Chick as a false prophet. In fact, it pains me. I realize most professed "Christians" today are phonies. Certainly, genuine repentance should result in a drastic change within the soul of the believer (2nd Corinthians 5:17). However, the change comes as a RESULT of genuine repentance; and NOT as a prerequisite to salvation itself. Jack Chick requires a willingness to change (i.e., turn from sin) as a requirement to be saved. This is damnable heresy and a road to Hell, because it is self-righteousness! Hebrews 12:8 tells us that God will chastise His children if they live in sin. Although no believer can live in sin without Holy Spirit conviction, many believers do live horribly sinful lives (as evidenced by king Solomon in the Bible).
To be saved, a person must become GUILTY before God (Romans 3:19), realizing one's condemnation under God's Holy Law, and justly deserved penalty in Hellfire—turning by faith to Jesus Christ for forgiveness. The precious blood of Jesus Christ is what washes our sins away forever... "Forasmuch as ye know that ye were not redeemed with corruptible things, as silver and gold, from your vain conversation received by tradition from your fathers; But with the precious blood of Christ, as of a lamb without blemish and without spot" (1st Peter 1:18,19). Jesus paid a debt He did not owe; because we owed a debt we could not pay. Oh how foolish it is for anyone to require lost sinners to be willing to depart from their sins to be saved.
According to Chick Tracts, it's not enough to admit you're a sinner to be saved, you must also be willing to turn from those sins. Jack Chick needs to either change his tracts to accurately reflect his website's statement of faith; or else rewrite his statement of faith to backup the Lordship Salvation he's teaching in his tracts. To continue to teach both is contradictory, confusing, and deceitful. Don't you tell me that you believe salvation is the free gift of God, and then contradict yourself by saying that sinners must be willing to turn from their sins to be saved. No Sir! You are 100% wrong. What a Gospel Tract should tell people who want to be saved is:
1. Admit you are a GUILTY sinner, under the condemnation of God's Law, deserving of Hellfire (Romans 3:19,23; 6:23).
2. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, Whose redeeming blood will wash away your sins (Acts 16:31; 1st Peter 1:18,19).
The change (i.e., the FRUIT of a believer's faith) that genuine repentance brings is not a requirement to be saved. It is a separate issue. We must not confuse the ROOT of a believer's faith with the FRUIT of a believer's faith (See: Are We Justified by Faith and Works?).
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I love your heart but Pentecost happened and Peter preached with many words to that crowd that had gathered and 3,000 souls were added. Salvation comes through preaching the word of the gospel. People need to hear the gospel preached. How shall they hear without a preacher.
Rom 10:13-15 13 For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved.14 How then shall they call on him in whom they have not believed? and how shall they believe in him of whom they have not heard? and how shall they hear without a preacher?
15 And how shall they preach, except they be sent? as it is written, How beautiful are the feet of them that preach the gospel of peace, and bring glad tidings of good things!
Mark 16:19,20 19 So then after the Lord had spoken unto them, he was received up into heaven, and sat on the right hand of God.20 And they went forth, and preached every where, the Lord working with them, and confirming the word with signs following. Amen.
Acts 8:25 25 And they, when they had testified and preached the word of the Lord, returned to Jerusalem, and preached the gospel in many villages of the Samaritans.
Acts 13:5 5 And when they were at Salamis, they preached the word of God in the synagogues of the Jews: and they had also John to their minister.
Heb 4:2 2 For unto us was the gospel preached, as well as unto them: but the word preached did not profit them, not being mixed with faith in them that heard it.
Rom 16:24-27 24 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.25 Now to him that is of power to stablish you according to my gospel, and the preaching of Jesus Christ, according to the revelation of the mystery, which was kept secret since the world began,
26 But now is made manifest, and by the scriptures of the prophets, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, made known to all nations for the obedience of faith:
27 To God only wise, be glory through Jesus Christ for ever. Amen.
what unfulfilled promises is God supposedly fulfilling today in the State of Israel in the Middle East?
of course, concerning such a serious matter one would hope to be able to carefully document from His Word what this unfulfilled promise is.
if all you have is a romantic narrative with no scriptural documentation, please don't bother.
i know the satanic dispensational doctrine that reverses everything God has revealed about Himself and His promises.
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salvation apparently has little to do with this mysterious unfulfilled promise we are all supposed to be supporting - with bloodshed.
what does the Gospel have to do with your unfulfilled promise.
this is about LAND, is it not....God owes some people some LAND apparently, and salvation does not enter into it. not for the millions killed over that LAND so far. most of them died in unbelief....and many of them were killed by people who call themselves Christians....so that this mysterious unfulfilled promise can come to pass.
where is any of that in scripture.
is any of that in the Sermon on the Mount or the Great Commission...i missed it.