Are King James Bible believers "Idolaters"?

Praus · Sep 6, 2013

Brother Sanashankar, God bless you. I wrote this about KJV-onlyism four days ago--it's exactly what you're seeing now--"always and without fail".

Praus said:

brandplucked · Sep 6, 2013

jonathanbchristian said:

Hi jonathan. And that is why you are a Bible Rummager and an unbeliever in the infallibility of ANY Bible in any language. You have set up your own mind and personal preferences as your own private little "final authority". And if anybody asked you to show them or give them a copy of the complete, inspired and infallible words of God, you could not do it. Why? Because you simply do not believe that such a thing exists.

brandplucked · Sep 6, 2013

Which of these TEXTS are parts of your "infallible Bible"?

Hi all. Here is a partial list of specific readings from the various Bible Babble Buffet versions out there today. Do any of you REALLY believe in an infallible Bible? If so, which of these are the historic truths of God? Just pick one example if you like and let us know. Thanks.

Most Evangelical Christians today do not believe that any Bible in any language IS the inerrant words of God. In spite of the lame, signifying nothing, recent Chicago Statement on Biblical Inerrancy, they did get one thing right. It’s found in Article XII - “We deny that Biblical infallibility and inerrancy are limited to spiritual, religious, or redemptive themes, exclusive of assertions in the fields of history and science.” Every true Bible believer should agree with this statement. IF the Bible is not 100% historically true, then at what point does God start to tell us the truth? If we cannot trust God's Book when it comes to specific numbers and names when it comes to past history, then how can we be sure He got the other parts right?

It is devastating for the modern version promoter to see where the New Jerusalem Catholic bible lands on these verses. Also notice how the previous Catholic Douay-Rheims read. It was a whole lot closer to the historical truth than are these more modern translations.

The following short list is just a sampling of the divergent and confusing readings found among the contradictory modern bible versions. There are numerous other examples, but these are just a few to make you aware of what is going on here with "the late$t in $cholar$hip Finding$".

Among these “historic details” are whether Jeremiah 27:1 reads Jehoiakim (Hebrew texts, RV, ASV, NKJV, KJB, ISV, Douay-Rheims, St. Joseph New American Bible 1970) or Zedekiah (RSV, NIV, NASB, ESV, NET, Holman, Catholic New Jerusalem 1985)

1 Samuel 13:1 Here we read: “Saul reigned ONE year; and when he had reigned TWO years over Israel, Saul chose him three thousand men of Israel.” reading - ONE/TWO years (NKJV, KJB, Geneva, Judaica Press Tanach, Orthodox Jewish Bible), or 40/32 (NASB 1972-77) or 30/42 (NASB 1995, NIV), OR 30 years/ 40 years (NET) or _____years and______and two years (RSV, NRSV, ESV 2001 edition, St. Joseph New American Bible 1970, Catholic New Jerusalem 1985), or "was 40 years old...and when he had reigned 2 years" (Amplified bible 1987) or "____years old and reigned 2 years" (Complete Jewish bible, Knox bible) or "was 30 years old...ruled for 42 years" (ISV, Common English Bible) or “32 years old...reigned for 22 years” in the 1989 Revised English Bible, or even "was 50 years old and reigned 22 years." in the New English Bible of 1970!

But wait. There's even more. The ESV 2001 edition had "Saul was________years old when he began to reign, and he reigned____and two years over Israel." But now the 2011 edition of the ESV has come out (I have a hard copy right here in front of me) and it now has the perhaps even more ridiculous reading of "Saul LIVED FOR ONE YEAR AND THEN BECAME KING, and when he had reigned FOR TWO YEARS over Israel, Saul chose 3000 men of Israel...". Think about it. "Saul lived for one year and then became king". They just get loopier and loopier, don't they?

whether 2 Samuel 21:8 reads Michal (Hebrew texts, KJB, NKJV, RV, ASV, Douay-Rheims) or Merab (RSV, NIV, NASB, ESV, NET, Holman, ISV, St. Joseph NAB, Catholic New Jerusalem)

or 70 (NASB, NKJV, RV, ASV, RSV, NRSV, Holman, ISV, KJB) being sent out by the Lord Jesus in Luke 10:1 and 17 or 72 (NIV, ESV, NET, St. Joseph NAB, Catholic New Jerusalem)

or in Matthew 18:22 does the Lord say to forgive your brother not “until 7 times, but unto 70 times 7 times” (= 490 times - KJB, RV, ASV, NASB, NKJV, RSV, ESV, ISV, Douay-Rheims, St. Joseph NAB, ALL Greek texts) or 77 times (NRSV, NIV, Catholic New Jerusalem)

or the 7th day in Judges 14:15 (KJB, NKJV, RV, ASV, Douay-Rheims) or the 4th day (RSV, ESV, NASB, NIV, NET, St. Joseph NAB, Catholic New Jerusalem) or "the NEXT day" ISV (they just made this up!)

Or Hannah taking young Samuel to the house of the LORD with THREE bullocks in 1 Samuel 1:24 (KJB, Hebrew texts, RV, ASV, JPS 1917, NKJV, Youngs, NET, Douay-Rheims) or “A THREE YEAR OLD BULL: (LXX, Syriac RSV, ESV, NIV, NASB, ISV, Holman, St. Joseph NAB, Catholic New Jerusalem)

or God smiting 50,070 men in 1 Samuel 6:19 (KJB, RV, ASV, NASB, NET, ISV, Douay-Rheims) or 70 men slain (RSV, NIV, NRSV, ESV, St. Joseph NAB, Catholic New Jerusalem), or “70 men- 50 chief men” (Young’s), or “70 MEN OUT OF 50,000 Holman Standard

or there being 30,000 chariots in 1 Samuel 13:5 (KJB, NKJV, RV, ASV, NASB, RSV, NRSV, ESV, ISV, Douay-Rheims) or only 3000 (NIV, NET, Holman, St. Joseph NAB, Catholic New Jerusalem)

2 Samuel 15:7 “forty years” (KJB, Hebrew, Geneva, NKJV, NASB, RV, Douay-Rheims) OR “four years” (NIV, RSV, ESV, NET, St. Joseph NAB, Catholic New Jerusalem). The ISV ADDS words to the Hebrew text to make it say what they think it means, saying: "And so it was that forty years after Israel had demanded a king, Absalom asked the king..."

or whether both 2 Samuel 23:18 and 1 Chronicles 11:20 read “chief of the THREE” (KJB, Hebrew texts, RV, ASV, NKJV, NRSV, Holman, NIV, NET, Holman, NET, Douay-Rheims) or THIRTY from the Syriac (NASB, RSV, ESV, St. Joseph NAB, Catholic New Jerusalem) The ISV completely omits any number and just makes up their own text saying: "in charge of the platoons"

or 2 Samuel 24:13 reading SEVEN years (KJB, Hebrew, ASV, NASB, NKJV, NET, ISV, Douay-Rheims) or THREE years (LXX, NIV, RSV, NRSV, ESV, Holman, St. Joseph NAB, Catholic New Jerusalem)

or whether 1 Kings 4:26 reads 40,000 stalls of horses (Hebrew, KJB, RV, ASV, NASB, ESV, NKJV, ISV, Douay-Rheims) or 4,000 stalls (NIV, NET, St. Joseph NAB, Catholic New Jerusalem)

or whether 1 Kings 5:11 reads 20 measures of pure oil (Hebrew texts, Geneva, KJB, ASV, RV, NASB, NRSV, ISV, Douay-Rheims) or 20,000 (RSV, NIV, ESV, NET, LXX and Syriac, St. Joseph NAB, Catholic New Jerusalem)

or in 2 Chronicles 31:16 we read "males from THREE years old" (Hebrew texts, KJB, Geneva Bible, Wycliffe, LXX, Syriac, RV, ASV, RSV, NRSV, ESV, NIV, NKJV, Holman, NET, Douay-Rheims) or "males from THIRTY years old" (NASB - ft. Hebrew “three”, ISV -"every male 30 years old and older", St. Joseph NAB, Catholic New Jerusalem)

or where 2 Chronicles 36:9 reads that Jehoiachin was 8 years old when he began to reign (Hebrew texts, KJB, NASB, NKJV, RV, ASV, KJB, RSV, NRSV, ESV 2001 edition, ISV, Douay-Rheims) or he was 18 years old (NIV, Holman, NET, ESV 2007 edition!!! and once again the Catholic St. Joseph NAB and the New Jerusalem)

or that when God raised the Lord Jesus from the dead it is stated in Acts 13:33 “this day have I begotten thee” (KJB, NASB, NKJV, RV, RSV, NRSV, ESV, Douay-Rheims, St. Joseph NAB) or “today I have become your Father” (NIV, Holman, NET, ISV, Catholic New Jerusalem).

If you go back and read through this list of just some of the numerous very real differences that exist among these Bible of the Month Club versions, ask yourself which (if any) are the 100% historically true words of God. IF "the Bible" is not 100% historically true in the events it narrates, then when does God start to tell us the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth?

As for the ESV, you can see a lot more examples of how this revamped RSV version often rejects the clear Hebrew readings and has changed over 300 verses from the 2001 to the 2007 editions - The ESV - Another King James Bible Believer

jonathanbchristian · Sep 6, 2013

brandplucked said:

Do you believe Bible translators are infallible, including those of the KJV? If you do then by what proof? I believe the original Hebrew and Greek text are infallible.

Praus · Sep 6, 2013

brandplucked said:

The side notes are required for understanding the King James Bible. Removing them is a modernizing corruption to the text and insulting to the legacy of the KJV translators. So the KJV 1611 is more infallible than any edition without side notes.

1611 King James Bible

1 Sam 10:24 And Samuel said to all the people, See ye him whome the Lord hath chosen, that there is none like him among all the people? And all the people shouted, and saide, * God saue the King.
1 Sam 10:24 side note reference: Heb. let the king liue

2 Sam 16:16 And it came to passe when Hushai the Archite, Dauids friend, was come vnto Absalom, that Hushai said vnto Absalom, * God saue the king, God saue the king.
2 Sam 16:16 side note reference: Heb. let the king liue.

1 Kings 1:25 For hee is gone downe this day, and hath slaine oxen, and fat cattel, and sheepe in abundance, and hath called all the kings sonnes, and the captaines of the host, and Abiathar the Priest: and behold, they eate and drinke before him, and say, * God saue king Adoniiah.
1 Kings 1:25 side note reference: Hebr, Let king Adoniiah liue.

c. 1900 King James Bible Pure Cambridge Edition, excellent Bible, but not as excellent as the 1611.

1 Sam 10:24 And Samuel said to all the people, See ye him whom the LORD hath chosen, that [there is] none like him among all the people? And all the people shouted, and said, God save the king.

2 Sam 16:16 And it came to pass, when Hushai the Archite, David’s friend, was come unto Absalom, that Hushai said unto Absalom, God save the king, God save the king.

1 Kings 1:25 For he is gone down this day, and hath slain oxen and fat cattle and sheep in abundance, and hath called all the king’s sons, and the captains of the host, and Abiathar the priest; and, behold, they eat and drink before him, and say, God save king Adonijah.

brandplucked said:

I'm still waiting for guidance from the Holy Spirit about textual "infallibility". I don't control God, in spite of the ants in your pants.

Praus · Sep 6, 2013

brandplucked said:

I got my revelation (on the bus

), there is no perfect English translation, KJV or otherwise. John wrote:

John 21:25 And there are also many other things which Jesus did, the which, if they should be written every one, I suppose that even the world itself could not contain the books that should be written. Amen.

And you are using word like "unbeliever" and "truth" to hold the the King James Bible translation above Jesus Christ, who lived as God on earth. Satan tried that already, it doesn't work!

Matt 4:5-7 Then the devil taketh him up into the holy city, and setteth him on a pinnacle of the temple, And saith unto him, If thou be the Son of God, cast thyself down: for it is written, He shall give his angels charge concerning thee: and in [their] hands they shall bear thee up, lest at any time thou dash thy foot against a stone. Jesus said unto him, It is written again, Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God.

Based on Matt 4 I have to conclude (again) that KJV-only is satanic devil worship.

Josh321 · Sep 6, 2013

Praus said:

It's getting harder and harder with each post to believe that you take the King James Bible seriously...

Prov 6:16 ¶ These six [things] doth the LORD hate: yea, seven [are] an abomination unto him: 17 A proud look, a lying tongue, and hands that shed innocent blood, 18 An heart that deviseth wicked imaginations, feet that be swift in running to mischief, 19 A false witness [that] speaketh lies, and he that soweth discord among brethren.

so what is the " true bible " sir? if it isn't the king james bible

Josh321 · Sep 6, 2013

can't believe your blatantly saying the word of God is wrong

? i think i saw some of your other post saying free masons use it, also people use the bible for witchcraft do you know why? because it is the word of God and God doesn't go against his own words

brandplucked · Sep 6, 2013

jonathanbchristian said:

Hi jonathan, you are missing the whole point. Only God and His words are infallible. I and thousands of others believe God has acted in history to give us an infallible Bible and it is a real Bible you can hold in your hands, read and believe every word if from the living God. It's the King James Bible.

Here are many reasons and "coincidences" why this Book must come from England and be in the English language.

God's Persistent Witness to the Absolute Standard of Written Truth - The King James Holy Bible

Absolute Standard - Another King James Bible Believer

You state:"I believe the original Hebrew and Greek text are infallible." Well, this all sound very pious and good, but it is a meaningless statement. Every body believes the originals WERE infallible, but you just got done using a present tense verb - ARE - when you said you believe the originals ARE infallible. Jonathan, there ARE NO originals. You have never seen a word of them a day in your life and you probably couldn't even read them IF you had them, which you do not. So you are in effect confessing a faith in something that not only have you never seen, but in something that you KNOW doesn't exist!

And this leaves you with NO infallible Bible now. Open your eyes to the meaningless of what you just said.

God bless.

jonathanbchristian · Sep 6, 2013

brandplucked said:

Hi jonathan, you are missing the whole point. Only God and His words are infallible. I and thousands of others believe God has acted in history to give us an infallible Bible and it is a real Bible you can hold in your hands, read and believe every word if from the living God. It's the King James Bible.

Here are many reasons and "coincidences" why this Book must come from England and be in the English language.

God's Persistent Witness to the Absolute Standard of Written Truth - The King James Holy Bible

Absolute Standard - Another King James Bible Believer

You state:"I believe the original Hebrew and Greek text are infallible." Well, this all sound very pious and good, but it is a meaningless statement. Every body believes the originals WERE infallible, but you just got done using a present tense verb - ARE - when you said you believe the originals ARE infallible. Jonathan, there ARE NO originals. You have never seen a word of them a day in your life and you probably couldn't even read them IF you had them, which you do not. So you are in effect confessing a faith in something that not only have you never seen, but in something that you KNOW doesn't exist!

And this leaves you with NO infallible Bible now. Open your eyes to the meaningless of what you just said.

God bless.

So you believe God used theKJV translators but not any other translators? What about the Bible translation for muslims? It obviously went wrong. Why did God let that happen? Does God guarentee only one translation per language for all time even if the launguage changes?

eternally-gratefull · Sep 6, 2013

I would not call them idolators. I used to be one myself. but I did not worship it. and never thought other bibles could not be used, just was afraid to use them myself.

I would just say they are missing out. and holding back God and his ability to use modern bibles. I would never give an old english bible to a person who has never studied it because they would be lost.. But to each their own.

cfultz3 · Sep 6, 2013

brandplucked said:

You state:"I believe the original Hebrew and Greek text are infallible." Well, this all sound very pious and good, but it is a meaningless statement. Every body believes the originals WERE infallible, but you just got done using a present tense verb - ARE - when you said you believe the originals ARE infallible. Jonathan, there ARE NO originals. You have never seen a word of them a day in your life and you probably couldn't even read them IF you had them, which you do not. So you are in effect confessing a faith in something that not only have you never seen, but in something that you KNOW doesn't exist!

But...but...but...but you yourself stated that the KJV translators used original Greek manuscripts/transcripts.....but...but...but

brandplucked · Sep 6, 2013

jonathanbchristian said:

Hi jonathan, God never promised a perfect Bible to every nation, but He did promise that the gospel would be preached in every nation. The gospel is found in the worst of the translations out there, including the Catholic versions, the JW version or the new Vatican Versions like the ESV, NIV, NASB. BUT the issue you are still missing is this: Do you believe that ANY Bible in any language IS the complete and infallible words of God? My bet is that you do not. This is where most Christians are today, and they read, study and believe these bogus bible versions less and less. It is all part of prophesy being fulfilled. God Himself is sending a famine of hearing His words into the land (Amos 8:11) and there will be a falling away from the faith before the return of Christ (2 Thes. 2:3) and Jesus asks: "Nevertheless, when the Son of man cometh, shall he find faith on the earth?" Luke 18:8

God also calls His people to come out of the Great Whore of Babylon - Rev. 18:4, and most Christians today are blinded and deceived by using the new Vatican Versions like the ESV, NIV, NASB.

See - Real Catholic bibles - Another King James Bible Believer

Undeniable Proof the ESV, NIV, NASB, Holman Standard, NET etc. are the new "Vatican Versions"

“Mystery, Babylon the Great, The Mother of Harlots and Abominations of the Earth..is become the habitation of devils, and the hold of every foul spirit...and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with the wine of her fornication...Come out of her, my people, that ye be not partakers of her sins” Revelation 17:2-5; 18:2-4

Trax · Sep 6, 2013

God made vs. man made. This is the core issue with a Bible translation. Here are some examples of
God made items:
1. Exo 20:25 And if thou wilt make me an altar of stone, thou shalt not build it of hewn stone: for if
thou lift up thy tool upon it, thou hast polluted it.
The stones are God made and He accepts items He made. He allows the assembly of the items
but man is not to tamper with the shape of a God made item.

2. Joh 1:12-13 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God,
even to them that believe on his name: (13) Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of
the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
When you get saved, you are a God made new creation.

3. The Bible you read from. Is it God made or is it man made? Only God can make a stone.
Only God can make someone a new creation. And only God can make an inspired word and compile
it into a real Bible. Is your Bible the real deal or a man made hewned stone? This bothers
people to the core. But it is an issue they need to face. If God is that serious about an altar,
how much more serious He is concerning His word, which He magnifies above His own name.
God made vs man made. If you are saved, you will have to decide whose words and thoughts
you want to learn from.

TannarDarr · Sep 6, 2013

p_rehbein said:

NO SCRIPTURE IS NOT!

The message in the Scripture is. THE MESSAGE THE TEACHINGS not the scripture.

TannarDarr · Sep 6, 2013

Josh321 said:

There is no true bible. There is a message. The message is told in many different translations of Bibles. The message is the same. Only pedantics separate them.

Do you worship GOD or PEDANTICS?

ChosenbyHim · Sep 6, 2013

TannarDarr said:

Wrong TannarDarr.

There is a true Bible. It is God's perfect, pure, preserved and inerrant word. And that is the Authorized King James Holy Bible.

You need to study this issue more.

God promised to preserve His words:

Psalm 12:6-7 KJV
The words of the Lord are pure words: as silver tried in a furnace of earth, purified seven times. [7] Thou shalt keep them, O Lord , thou shalt preserve them from this generation for ever.

brandplucked · Sep 6, 2013

TannarDarr said:

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Hi Tannar. Spoken like a true Bible Agnostic. Tell us, Tannar, which of these verses is the true "message", huh? Any idea?

Bible Babel - a look at some of the hundreds of such examples of different meanings found in the multitude of conflicting bible versions on the market today. Here are just a few examples to start off this comparative study. The meanings are often the very opposite of what is found in the King James Bible and many others when we compare what is found in many modern versions.

Genesis 27:39-40

KJB thy dwelling SHALL BE the fatness of the earth
NIV Your dwelling will be AWAY FROM the earth’s richness
NASB, ESV - AWAY FROM the fertility of the earth shall be your dwelling

Job 16:20
KJB My friends SCORN me: but mine eye poureth out tears unto God.
NIV My intercessor IS MY FRIEND as my eyes pour out tears to God.

Psalm 10:4, 5
KJB wicked…..His ways are always GRIEVOUS
NIV wicked…..His ways are always prosperous
NKJV wicked…..His ways are always prospering
ESV wicked…..His ways prosper at all times
HCSB wicked…..His ways are always secure

Psalm 29:9
KJB The voice of the LORD maketh the HINDS TO CALVE
NIV The voice of the LORD TWISTS THE OAKS

Proverbs 18:24
KJB A man that hath friends must shew himself friendly
NASB A man of many friends COMES TO RUIN
NIV A man of many companions MAY COME TO RUIN
ESV A man of many companions MAY COME TO RUIN
HCSB A man with many friends MAY BE HARMED

Proverbs 22:20 "excellent things", "three times" or "thirty sayings"?
KJB (RV, ASV, NASB, NKJV) -Have not I written unto thee EXCELLENT THINGS
NIV, ESV - Have I not written for you THIRTY SAYINGS of counsel and knowledge
Young's - "Have I not written to thee THREE TIMES with counsels and knowledge?

Proverbs 25:23
KJB The north wind DRIVETH AWAY rain
NIV As a north wind BRINGS rain
NASB The north wind BRINGS forth rain
ESV The north wind BRINGS forth rain

Proverbs 26:22
KJB The words of a talebearer are as WOUNDS
NIV The words of a gossip are like choice morsels
NASB The words of a whisperer are like dainty morsels
ESV The words of a whisperer are delicious morsels
HCSB A gossip’s words are like choice food

Ecclesiastes 8:10
KJB wicked…..were FORGOTTEN
NIV wicked…..receive praise
ESV wicked…..were praised

Isaiah 9:1
KJB afterward did more GRIEVOUSLY AFFLICT …….Galilee
NASB later on He shall make it glorious…….Galilee
NIV in the future he will honor Galilee
ESV in the latter time he has made glorious….Galilee

Isaiah 9:3
KJB NOT increased their joy
NIV, TNIV increased the joy
NKJV increased its joy
ESV increased its joy
NASB increased their gladness

Jeremiah 51:3
KJB LET the archer BEND his bow
ESV Let NOT the archer BEND his bow
NIV Let NOT the archer STRING his bow
NASB Let NOT him who BENDS his bow BEND it

Hosea 10:1
KJB Israel is an EMPTY vine
NASB Israel is a luxuriant vine
ESV Israel is a luxuriant vine
NIV Israel was a spreading vine

Hosea 11:12
KJB Judah yet RULETH WITH God
NIV Judah is UNRULY AGAINST God
NASB Judah is also UNRULY AGAINST God

Colossians 2:18
KJB things which he hath NOT seen
NIV, TNIV, ISV what he HAS seen
NASB visions he HAS seen
RSV, ESV, Holman, NET = NASB, NIV.

Colossians 4:8
KJB HE might know YOUR estate
ESV YOU may know how WE ARE
HCSB YOU may know how WE ARE
NIV YOU may know about OUR CIRCUMSTANCES
TNIV YOU may know about OUR CIRCUMSTANCES

Hebrews 3:16
KJB - For some, when they had heard, did provoke: howbeit not all that came out of Egypt by Moses.
NKJV - For who, having heard, rebelled? Indeed, was it not all who came out of Egypt, led by Moses?
ESV -For who were those who heard and yet rebelled? Was it not all those who left Egypt led by Moses?
NIV - Who were they who heard and rebelled? Were they not all those Moses led out of Egypt?

If you want to know the answers and why the King James Bible is right, as always, Go here for the explanations -

Bible Babel 1 - Another King James Bible Believer

"He that hath ears to hear, let him hear." Luke 8:8

God bless.

Praus · Sep 6, 2013

Josh321 said:

Matt 7:6 ¶ Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

I will tell you after you're done deciding whether "a house" or "an house" is correct in each and every of the following verses from the King James Bible.

Gen 33:17 And Jacob journeyed to Succoth, and built him an house, and made booths for his cattle: therefore the name of the place is called Succoth.

Ex 12:3 ¶ Speak ye unto all the congregation of Israel, saying, In the tenth [day] of this month they shall take to them every man a lamb, according to the house of [their] fathers, a lamb for an house:

Ex 12:30 And Pharaoh rose up in the night, he, and all his servants, and all the Egyptians; and there was a great cry in Egypt; for [there was] not a house where [there was] not one dead.

Le 14:34 When ye be come into the land of Canaan, which I give to you for a possession, and I put the plague of leprosy in a house of the land of your possession;

Le 14:55 And for the leprosy of a garment, and of a house,

De 28:30 Thou shalt betroth a wife, and another man shall lie with her: thou shalt build an house, and thou shalt not dwell therein: thou shalt plant a vineyard, and shalt not gather the grapes thereof.

Jg 17:5 And the man Micah had an house of gods, and made an ephod, and teraphim, and consecrated one of his sons, who became his priest.

2Sa 5:11 ¶ And Hiram king of Tyre sent messengers to David, and cedar trees, and carpenters, and masons: and they built David an house.

2Sa 7:2 That the king said unto Nathan the prophet, See now, I dwell in an house of cedar, but the ark of God dwelleth within curtains.

2Sa 7:5 Go and tell my servant David, Thus saith the LORD, Shalt thou build me an house for me to dwell in?

2Sa 7:7 In all [the places] wherein I have walked with all the children of Israel spake I a word with any of the tribes of Israel, whom I commanded to feed my people Israel, saying, Why build ye not me an house of cedar?

2Sa 7:11 And as since the time that I commanded judges [to be] over my people Israel, and have caused thee to rest from all thine enemies. Also the LORD telleth thee that he will make thee an house.

2Sa 7:13 He shall build an house for my name, and I will stablish the throne of his kingdom for ever.

2Sa 7:27 For thou, O LORD of hosts, God of Israel, hast revealed to thy servant, saying, I will build thee an house: therefore hath thy servant found in his heart to pray this prayer unto thee.

1Ki 2:24 Now therefore, [as] the LORD liveth, which hath established me, and set me on the throne of David my father, and who hath made me an house, as he promised, Adonijah shall be put to death this day.

1Ki 2:36 ¶ And the king sent and called for Shimei, and said unto him, Build thee an house in Jerusalem, and dwell there, and go not forth thence any whither.

1Ki 5:3 Thou knowest how that David my father could not build an house unto the name of the LORD his God for the wars which were about him on every side, until the LORD put them under the soles of his feet.

1Ki 5:5 And, behold, I purpose to build an house unto the name of the LORD my God, as the LORD spake unto David my father, saying, Thy son, whom I will set upon thy throne in thy room, he shall build an house unto my name.

1Ki 7:8 ¶ And his house where he dwelt [had] another court within the porch, [which] was of the like work. Solomon made also an house for Pharaoh’s daughter, whom he had taken [to wife], like unto this porch.

1Ki 8:13 I have surely built thee an house to dwell in, a settled place for thee to abide in for ever.

1Ki 8:16 Since the day that I brought forth my people Israel out of Egypt, I chose no city out of all the tribes of Israel to build an house, that my name might be therein; but I chose David to be over my people Israel.

1Ki 8:17 And it was in the heart of David my father to build an house for the name of the LORD God of Israel.

1Ki 8:18 And the LORD said unto David my father, Whereas it was in thine heart to build an house unto my name, thou didst well that it was in thine heart.

1Ki 8:20 And the LORD hath performed his word that he spake, and I am risen up in the room of David my father, and sit on the throne of Israel, as the LORD promised, and have built an house for the name of the LORD God of Israel.

1Ki 11:18 And they arose out of Midian, and came to Paran: and they took men with them out of Paran, and they came to Egypt, unto Pharaoh king of Egypt; which gave him an house, and appointed him victuals, and gave him land.

1Ki 12:31 And he made an house of high places, and made priests of the lowest of the people, which were not of the sons of Levi.

1Ch 14:1 Now Hiram king of Tyre sent messengers to David, and timber of cedars, with masons and carpenters, to build him an house.

1Ch 17:1 Now it came to pass, as David sat in his house, that David said to Nathan the prophet, Lo, I dwell in an house of cedars, but the ark of the covenant of the LORD [remaineth] under curtains.

1Ch 17:4 Go and tell David my servant, Thus saith the LORD, Thou shalt not build me an house to dwell in:

1Ch 17:5 For I have not dwelt in an house since the day that I brought up Israel unto this day; but have gone from tent to tent, and from [one] tabernacle [to another].

1Ch 17:6 Wheresoever I have walked with all Israel, spake I a word to any of the judges of Israel, whom I commanded to feed my people, saying, Why have ye not built me an house of cedars?

1Ch 17:10 And since the time that I commanded judges [to be] over my people Israel. Moreover I will subdue all thine enemies. Furthermore I tell thee that the LORD will build thee an house.

1Ch 17:12 He shall build me an house, and I will stablish his throne for ever.

1Ch 17:25 For thou, O my God, hast told thy servant that thou wilt build him an house: therefore thy servant hath found [in his heart] to pray before thee.

1Ch 22:6 ¶ Then he called for Solomon his son, and charged him to build an house for the LORD God of Israel.

1Ch 22:7 And David said to Solomon, My son, as for me, it was in my mind to build an house unto the name of the LORD my God:

1Ch 22:8 But the word of the LORD came to me, saying, Thou hast shed blood abundantly, and hast made great wars: thou shalt not build an house unto my name, because thou hast shed much blood upon the earth in my sight.

1Ch 22:10 He shall build an house for my name; and he shall be my son, and I [will be] his father; and I will establish the throne of his kingdom over Israel for ever.

1Ch 28:2 Then David the king stood up upon his feet, and said, Hear me, my brethren, and my people: [As for me], I [had] in mine heart to build an house of rest for the ark of the covenant of the LORD, and for the footstool of our God, and had made ready for the building:

1Ch 28:3 But God said unto me, Thou shalt not build an house for my name, because thou [hast been] a man of war, and hast shed blood.

1Ch 28:10 Take heed now; for the LORD hath chosen thee to build an house for the sanctuary: be strong, and do [it].

1Ch 29:16 O LORD our God, all this store that we have prepared to build thee an house for thine holy name [cometh] of thine hand, and [is] all thine own.

2Ch 2:1 And Solomon determined to build an house for the name of the LORD, and an house for his kingdom.

2Ch 2:3 ¶ And Solomon sent to Huram the king of Tyre, saying, As thou didst deal with David my father, and didst send him cedars to build him an house to dwell therein, [even so deal with me].

2Ch 2:4 Behold, I build an house to the name of the LORD my God, to dedicate [it] to him, [and] to burn before him sweet incense, and for the continual shewbread, and for the burnt offerings morning and evening, on the sabbaths, and on the new moons, and on the solemn feasts of the LORD our God. This [is an ordinance] for ever to Israel.

2Ch 2:6 But who is able to build him an house, seeing the heaven and heaven of heavens cannot contain him? who [am] I then, that I should build him an house, save only to burn sacrifice before him?

2Ch 2:12 Huram said moreover, Blessed [be] the LORD God of Israel, that made heaven and earth, who hath given to David the king a wise son, endued with prudence and understanding, that might build an house for the LORD, and an house for his kingdom.

2Ch 6:2 But I have built an house of habitation for thee, and a place for thy dwelling for ever.

2Ch 6:5 Since the day that I brought forth my people out of the land of Egypt I chose no city among all the tribes of Israel to build an house in, that my name might be there; neither chose I any man to be a ruler over my people Israel:

2Ch 6:7 Now it was in the heart of David my father to build an house for the name of the LORD God of Israel.

2Ch 6:8 But the LORD said to David my father, Forasmuch as it was in thine heart to build an house for my name, thou didst well in that it was in thine heart:

2Ch 7:12 ¶ And the LORD appeared to Solomon by night, and said unto him, I have heard thy prayer, and have chosen this place to myself for an house of sacrifice.

2Ch 36:23 Thus saith Cyrus king of Persia, All the kingdoms of the earth hath the LORD God of heaven given me; and he hath charged me to build him an house in Jerusalem, which [is] in Judah. Who [is there] among you of all his people? The LORD his God [be] with him, and let him go up.

Ezr 1:2 Thus saith Cyrus king of Persia, The LORD God of heaven hath given me all the kingdoms of the earth; and he hath charged me to build him an house at Jerusalem, which [is] in Judah.

Ezr 4:3 But Zerubbabel, and Jeshua, and the rest of the chief of the fathers of Israel, said unto them, Ye have nothing to do with us to build an house unto our God; but we ourselves together will build unto the LORD God of Israel, as king Cyrus the king of Persia hath commanded us.

Job 20:19 Because he hath oppressed [and] hath forsaken the poor; [because] he hath violently taken away an house which he builded not;

Ps 31:2 Bow down thine ear to me; deliver me speedily: be thou my strong rock, for an house of defence to save me.

Ps 84:3 Yea, the sparrow hath found an house, and the swallow a nest for herself, where she may lay her young, [even] thine altars, O LORD of hosts, my King, and my God.

Pr 17:1 Better [is] a dry morsel, and quietness therewith, than an house full of sacrifices [with] strife.

Pr 24:3 Through wisdom is an house builded; and by understanding it is established:

Isa 56:7 Even them will I bring to my holy mountain, and make them joyful in my house of prayer: their burnt offerings and their sacrifices [shall be] accepted upon mine altar; for mine house shall be called an house of prayer for all people.

Zec 5:11 And he said unto me, To build it an house in the land of Shinar: and it shall be established, and set there upon her own base.

Mt 10:12 And when ye come into an house, salute it.

Mt 13:52 Then said he unto them, Therefore every scribe [which is] instructed unto the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man [that is] an householder, which bringeth forth out of his treasure [things] new and old.

Mt 20:1 For the kingdom of heaven is like unto a man [that is] an householder, which went out early in the morning to hire labourers into his vineyard.

Mr 3:19 And Judas Iscariot, which also betrayed him: and they went into an house.

Mr 3:25 And if a house be divided against itself, that house cannot stand.

Mr 6:10 And he said unto them, In what place soever ye enter into an house, there abide till ye depart from that place.

Mr 7:24 ¶ And from thence he arose, and went into the borders of Tyre and Sidon, and entered into an house, and would have no man know [it]: but he could not be hid.

Lu 6:48 He is like a man which built an house, and digged deep, and laid the foundation on a rock: and when the flood arose, the stream beat vehemently upon that house, and could not shake it: for it was founded upon a rock.

Lu 6:49 But he that heareth, and doeth not, is like a man that without a foundation built an house upon the earth; against which the stream did beat vehemently, and immediately it fell; and the ruin of that house was great.

Lu 11:17 But he, knowing their thoughts, said unto them, Every kingdom divided against itself is brought to desolation; and a house [divided] against a house falleth.

Joh 2:16 And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father’s house an house of merchandise.

Ac 7:47 But Solomon built him an house.

2Co 5:1 For we know that if our earthly house of [this] tabernacle were dissolved, we have a building of God, an house not made with hands, eternal in the heavens.

Dread_Zeppelin1 · Sep 6, 2013

I know from a brief study that the history of translating the ancient texts into the KJV was a very thorough, strict process. Could I rattle off the whole reasoning behind it? Probably not, I'd have to go back and try to find all the facts again but bottom line is--I made a conscious decision to believe what I had in my hand is the word of God.

I'll use the KJV first, then NIV second...but why give it a second thought? You either believe what you have in your hand is the word of God or you don't. If you feel like what you're reading isn't what you think should be written then maybe you need to look inside your soul instead of blaming the book's origin.

I don't know what it means to worship the KJV. You can prefer a version but to worship it sounds ridiculous.

Are King James Bible believers "Idolaters"?

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