Does God expect the Jews to stop Jewish rituals when they know Jesus?

[Hizikyah]

Greek:
Παῦλος - Paul
Σαῦλος - Saul

Hebrew:
שָׁאוּל, Šāʼûl - Saul (Modern Sha'ul) - {He changed his name, maybe you didn't hear.....it's been 2000 years}

Let me guess Kepha is Peter now?

And that fact that there is a statue of Jupiter at Rome that they call Peter dosen't bother you 1 bit?

Jupiter = Jew Peter

 

[RickShafer]

Apparently this line of thinking excludes the context of this and other of Paul's writings. Just use it as you wish to support any doctrinal error you wish...

1Co 10:28 But if any man say unto you, This is offered in sacrifice unto idols, eat not for his sake that shewed it, and for conscience sake: for the earth is the Lord's, and the fulness thereof:

The subject here is meat offered to idols.

Ha, ha, ha!
You do err greatly!
Please list the other scriptures you reference to support your argument.
(Because you have not referenced any)
- -Or continue in your error.

 

[RickShafer]

Let me guess Kepha is Peter now?

And that fact that there is a statue of Jupiter at Rome that they call Peter dosen't bother you 1 bit?

Jupiter = Jew Peter

Are you dull?
Or can't you read?

 

[Hizikyah]

Are you dull?
Or can't you read?

My point is I will stick with the original, thank you.

Are you one of those "Jesus spoke Aramaic," people?

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

Are you one of those "Jesus spoke Aramaic," people?

Are you one of those 'Jesus spoke Hebrew to a populace that didn't understand Hebrew' people?

 

[RickShafer]

He's a 'Jew Peter' person.
Even though the name of that greek god predated Simon Peter by hundreds of years.

 

[RickShafer]

Jew Peter - Jupiter.
Nice. (I almost wish I'd thought of that)

 

[Hizikyah]

Are you one of those 'Jesus spoke Hebrew to a populace that didn't understand Hebrew' people?

Have you heard of vowel pointing? This was still going on for hundreds of years after Yahshua's death and resurrection. Vowel pointing is Hebrew. So yeah they spoke Hebrew. Every greek manuscript says Yahshua called out to Shaul with the Holy Language or the Hebrew language, how did Shaul understand and recognize it as Hebrew? There is only one Bible that says Aramaic and it's the NIV, NO ORIGINAL TEXT BACKS THAT UP. Also why would He speak the language of Babylon?

You know what thought, you might be right a renowned Bible Scholar did say Yahshua spoke Aramaic, what was his name?.......oh yeah Mel Gibson.

 

[Hizikyah]

He's a 'Jew Peter' person.
Even though the name of that greek god predated Simon Peter by hundreds of years.

That is why the pagans chaned Kepha's name to Peter, to match their pagan god.

Isayah 65:15, "And the names of your gods will remain as a trap; test, to My chosen; for Yahweh our Father will slay you, but he will give His servants a Name; Yahweh, that will remain forever."

 

[RickShafer]

Jupiter is Zeus.
Dates back to the eighth century B.C.
Way before Simon Peter.

 

[RickShafer]

People who have studied scripture so extensively that they know the old way of spelling sometimes use that spelling, not thinking about that others don't take that much time for study, so they spell Paul Shaul.

Many people in Paul's day didn't consider pork food. Paul was intent on making the gospel accepted by pagans who felt that if it meant what they ate, they preferred their old diet. Gospel was important, not diet. Paul did not say that you may not use food as a symbol of what God wants of us. If pork who ate refuse symbolized uncleanliness, Paul did not say that abstaining from unclean meat could not be used to symbolize that. God had suggested we do that, Paul pointed out the point that was important was the spiritual point, you could eat that meat and still be clean, spiritually.

Paul did not say?
Paul did not say?
Paul did not say a lot of things.
But what he did say is plain.
You can't use a negative to prove a positive.
It's like saying, "the numeral two is not the numeral one....so therefore any numeral that is not one is two".

 

[Hizikyah]

Exactly, you are proving my point, that is why they changed his name, to match the name of their pagan god.

Were they supposed to make up a new pagan god after they crucified Kepha.

And you do know that Kepha was called Kepha, he never heard the name Peter called to him, Yahshua didn't speak greek.

Yahchanan 1:42, "Then he brought him to Yahshua. And when Yahshua looked at him, He said: You are Simon son of Yahnah. You will be called Kepha.."

 

[Hizikyah]

To the original post, before one can even consider this topic they must be able to discern the difference between "Jewish Rituals" and Yahweh's instructions. If you study Constantine you will see hee labeled everything of Yahweh and Yahshua "Jewish customs" and said, "we will have nothing to do with the rabble of the Jews."

An introduction to some of what the Jews did falesly add is here:

http://christianchat.com/bible-discussion-forum/72285-key-unlock-some-yahshuas-words.html

 

[RedTent]

Paul did not say?
Paul did not say?
Paul did not say a lot of things.
But what he did say is plain.
You can't use a negative to prove a positive.
It's like saying, "the numeral two is not the numeral one....so therefore any numeral that is not one is two".

Your point is that Paul says we should eat pork. My point is that Paul did not say that.

 

[RickShafer]

Kephas - aramaic for stone.
Big deal.
Jesus called him that.
Now.......what are you trying to make out of this?

 

[Praus]

Let me guess Kepha is Peter now?

And that fact that there is a statue of Jupiter at Rome that they call Peter dosen't bother you 1 bit?

Jupiter = Jew Peter

This is delusional, Latin is still used by the Holy See: Documenta Lingua Latina exarata

The Latin for Jupiter is Iupiter. The Latin for Peter is Petrus and in Greek he is Πέτρος.

1 Peter 1:1
Petrus apostolus Iesu Christi electis advenis dispersionis Ponti Galatiae Cappadociae Asiae et Bithyniae (Vulgate)

Πέτρος ἀπόστολος Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ ἐκλεκτοῖς παρεπιδήμοις διασπορᾶς Πόντου, Γαλατίας, Καππαδοκίας, Ἀσίας, καὶ Βιθυνίας, (SBLGNT)

 

[RickShafer]

Your point is that Paul says we should eat pork. My point is that Paul did not say that.

No, my point was Paul said not to refuse it for - "the earth is the Lord's and the fullness thereof".
(A saying so important he repeated it twice in the epistle) - I Cor. 10:26 and 10:28.

 

[Hizikyah]

This is delusional, Latin is still used by the Holy See: Documenta Lingua Latina exarata

The Latin for Jupiter is Iupiter. The Latin for Peter is Petrus and in Greek he is Πέτρος.

1 Peter 1:1
Petrus apostolus Iesu Christi electis advenis dispersionis Ponti Galatiae Cappadociae Asiae et Bithyniae (Vulgate)

Πέτρος ἀπόστολος Ἰησοῦ Χριστοῦ ἐκλεκτοῖς παρεπιδήμοις διασπορᾶς Πόντου, Γαλατίας, Καππαδοκίας, Ἀσίας, καὶ Βιθυνίας, (SBLGNT)

Im no scholar never claim to be, however, there was no J in english until the 15th century and there has never been a J in Hebrew. I don't know how Jew is written in latin as I know nothing about latin, I do know however satan is tricky and is beyond the human mind, therefore My whole point is IM NOT TAKING ANY CHANCES IF I KNOW SOMETHING MIGHT BE WRONG, not worth it to me. What is Jew in latin, I can learn something here

 

[Hizikyah]

Also you have no problem that the statue of Jupiter is in Rome and they call it Peter

Jupiter = Jew Peter that does not raise any flags?

 

[HeRoseFromTheDead]

So yeah they spoke Hebrew. Every greek manuscript says Yahshua called out to Shaul with the Holy Language or the Hebrew language, how did Shaul understand and recognize it as Hebrew? There is only one Bible that says Aramaic and it's the NIV, NO ORIGINAL TEXT BACKS THAT UP. Also why would He speak the language of Babylon?

Scribes and scholars, like Paul, understood Hebrew, but the common folk didn't. That is why they had to have Targumists (Targum - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) to translate from Hebrew to Aramaic at religious gatherings. Targums were prevalent a century before Christ because the populace forgot how to speak Hebrew.