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phil36

phil36

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Hi to my brothers and sisters overseas..

I was just wanting to ask how is life for Christians in were you are.. sometimes in the west we get so caught up in our own problems we forget our brothers and sisters around the globe.

Anyhow nice to meet you all.

Phil
 
Hi brother phil36, I'm from Indonesia. There's no Indonesia Christian Forum, so I jumped into this forum as I saw you posted the same thread to other forums.
Living as Christian in Indonesia, can be both hard and easy. Where I come from, there's tons of Muslims tried to attack Christians and as Christians, we have to be more careful with these attacks. Sometimes, I found it hard to introduce Jesus through my life, for example: how to respond silly questions from Muslim people. I was about to get angry when they said "It was not Jesus who died upon the cross, it was just the bad guy". Then, I tried to explain that to them shortly because sometimes I'm afraid I said wrong things to them and it got me angry.
I need advice about this please :(
 
I can't speak for the whole christian family since I have missed so many church fellowships due to work and family concerns. But generally, more and more churches are being started here in the country, with the trend of being small/house churches rather than big and formal churches, which actually is more effective in ministering to the needs of christians. This is because big and formal churches have the tendency to scare off the poor and less privileged (since there are a lot of poor FIlipinos who still need to hear and immerse in real Christian fellowships. We also keep hearing about churches splitting up, but God still uses such situations for the advancement of his kingdom, these split churches continue to grow and multiply. Thank you for the concern, God be continually praised!
 
respekt said:
Hi brother phil36, I'm from Indonesia. There's no Indonesia Christian Forum, so I jumped into this forum as I saw you posted the same thread to other forums.
Living as Christian in Indonesia, can be both hard and easy. Where I come from, there's tons of Muslims tried to attack Christians and as Christians, we have to be more careful with these attacks. Sometimes, I found it hard to introduce Jesus through my life, for example: how to respond silly questions from Muslim people. I was about to get angry when they said "It was not Jesus who died upon the cross, it was just the bad guy". Then, I tried to explain that to them shortly because sometimes I'm afraid I said wrong things to them and it got me angry.
I need advice about this please :(
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Hi respect,

Sorry to hear about that. All you can do is explain the gospel the best way you can, just pray that the Lor will guide your steps. I think f you can get onto youtube there is a Christian apologist called Ravi Zacharias and he debates muslims..I think you will find may answers listening to him. Anyhow praying for you and brothes and sister in Indonesia and I am sure some here on cc will also.

God Bless, and may Jesus guard your steps.

Phil
 
kriket said:
I can't speak for the whole christian family since I have missed so many church fellowships due to work and family concerns. But generally, more and more churches are being started here in the country, with the trend of being small/house churches rather than big and formal churches, which actually is more effective in ministering to the needs of christians. This is because big and formal churches have the tendency to scare off the poor and less privileged (since there are a lot of poor FIlipinos who still need to hear and immerse in real Christian fellowships. We also keep hearing about churches splitting up, but God still uses such situations for the advancement of his kingdom, these split churches continue to grow and multiply. Thank you for the concern, God be continually praised!
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Hi Kriket,

Good to here the gospel is spreading more and more.. and people are coming to Jesus :) I can imagine that poverty has a real impact on peoples lives..however as you know Jesus can transcend poverty and give people real joy..praise God indeed.

God Bless
Phil
 
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maxwel said:
Hey respekt,

I'm giving you some links to evidences for the crucifixion and the resurrection of Christ.

Most people won't listen when you give explanations or evidence, but some will listen, and it if you understand these things it will certainly help you in your own daily life.

Crucifixion
Islam and the Crucifixion of Jesus | Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry

Resurrection
14 Evidences for the Resurrection of Jesus Christ—and 14 References | Parchment and Pen

God Bless,
Max
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Thanks brother. I will translate it asap! God bless..
 
respekt said:
Hi brother phil36, I'm from Indonesia. There's no Indonesia Christian Forum, so I jumped into this forum as I saw you posted the same thread to other forums.
Living as Christian in Indonesia, can be both hard and easy. Where I come from, there's tons of Muslims tried to attack Christians and as Christians, we have to be more careful with these attacks. Sometimes, I found it hard to introduce Jesus through my life, for example: how to respond silly questions from Muslim people. I was about to get angry when they said "It was not Jesus who died upon the cross, it was just the bad guy". Then, I tried to explain that to them shortly because sometimes I'm afraid I said wrong things to them and it got me angry.
I need advice about this please :(
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Stay clear of them.
They are of that spiritual type that hates any outward sign.
Much as Jesus went no more to Jerusalem after John 7, because it was the seat of religious power and they continually tried to subvert Him at every step. So the religious do always crucify the Son afresh.
The only time Jesus returned to the seat of religious power of His people was when He was crucified. (Way after John 7)
 
respekt said:
Hi brother phil36, I'm from Indonesia. There's no Indonesia Christian Forum, so I jumped into this forum as I saw you posted the same thread to other forums.
Living as Christian in Indonesia, can be both hard and easy. Where I come from, there's tons of Muslims tried to attack Christians and as Christians, we have to be more careful with these attacks. Sometimes, I found it hard to introduce Jesus through my life, for example: how to respond silly questions from Muslim people. I was about to get angry when they said "It was not Jesus who died upon the cross, it was just the bad guy". Then, I tried to explain that to them shortly because sometimes I'm afraid I said wrong things to them and it got me angry.
I need advice about this please :(
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Maybe ponder on this: as it is for all of us that believe
[h=3]Matthew 10:16-20[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

[SUP]16 [/SUP]Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. [SUP]17 [/SUP]But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues; [SUP]18 [/SUP]and ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles. [SUP]19 [/SUP]But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. [SUP]20 [/SUP]For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.
 
RickShafer said:
Stay clear of them.
They are of that spiritual type that hates any outward sign.
Much as Jesus went no more to Jerusalem after John 7, because it was the seat of religious power and they continually tried to subvert Him at every step. So the religious do always crucify the Son afresh.
The only time Jesus returned to the seat of religious power of His people was when He was crucified. (Way after John 7)
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My biggest issue is not able to decipher my thoughts and explanations through words. Reading some intellectual comments on this site might help me better next time.
 
homwardbound said:
Maybe ponder on this: as it is for all of us that believe
Matthew 10:16-20

Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

[SUP]16 [/SUP]Behold, I send you forth as sheep in the midst of wolves: be ye therefore wise as serpents, and harmless as doves. [SUP]17 [/SUP]But beware of men: for they will deliver you up to the councils, and they will scourge you in their synagogues; [SUP]18 [/SUP]and ye shall be brought before governors and kings for my sake, for a testimony against them and the Gentiles. [SUP]19 [/SUP]But when they deliver you up, take no thought how or what ye shall speak: for it shall be given you in that same hour what ye shall speak. [SUP]20 [/SUP]For it is not ye that speak, but the Spirit of your Father which speaketh in you.
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Amen to that brother. I'm thinking of reading my bible and digging more about Him. Thanks a lot.
 
Hello respect:

I hope you are still safe and well. In the system in which we live it is frustrating when we feel we my want to commit to someone about the Christian way. Just know you will be safe in doing so. It is different when one is face to face with someone than it is on a forum or some other site. God bless and stay safe.
 
freeman4 said:
Hello respect:

I hope you are still safe and well. In the system in which we live it is frustrating when we feel we my want to commit to someone about the Christian way. Just know you will be safe in doing so. It is different when one is face to face with someone than it is on a forum or some other site. God bless and stay safe.
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Yes, you're right brother. Thank you and God bless :)
 
respekt said:
Amen to that brother. I'm thinking of reading my bible and digging more about Him. Thanks a lot.
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when reading maybe go with this:
[h=3]Hebrews 8:10-13[/h]Authorized (King James) Version (AKJV)

[SUP]10 [/SUP]For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people: [SUP]11 [/SUP]and they shall not teach every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the Lord: for all shall know me, from the least to the greatest. [SUP]12 [/SUP]For I will be merciful to their unrighteousness, and their sins and their iniquities will I remember no more. [SUP]13 [/SUP]In that he saith, A new covenant, he hath made the first old. Now that which decayeth and waxeth old is ready to vanish away.
 
kind of hard to answer.. culturally and customarily different approach but spiritually we all face the same struggles or conflicts to mature and grow in Christ :)
 
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