Mark of the beast is sunday laws.

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Shiloah

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There you go! Hahahaha! Your entire belief system is clearly and entirely bogus based on lies alone. I would have been worried about myself if you hadn't said that.

I have studied this for myself. Why would I listen to any correction given by you when all I've seen posted by you thus far are misinterpretations of scripture? No, I don't listen to false teachers, but I mean AFTER I've carefully examined their beliefs by way of prayerful and extensive study of the scriptures.
I think it's funny how all of your arguments begin by pointing out denominations you believe are cults. You rarely if ever just post scripture and allow it to speak for itself. You always have to throw in your interpretation, if not before, immediately after the posted scripture, which very rarely even resembles the posted scripture. Again and again, you prove what you are.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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Don't blame me for the theology you espouse which aligns perfectly with the false doctrine of cult organizations. It's obvious that is where you got it from and I'm finally glad to hear you admit it. Honesty is the first step in leaving your denial. You just made one small step toward reality though you have a LONG way to go.


There you go! Hahahaha! Your entire belief system is clearly and entirely bogus based on lies alone. I would have been worried about myself if you hadn't said that.

I have studied this for myself. Why would I listen to any correction given by you when all I've seen posted by you thus far are misinterpretations of scripture? No, I don't listen to false teachers, but I mean AFTER I've carefully examined their beliefs by way of prayerful and extensive study of the scriptures.
 
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Shiloah

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It's not amazing how you came to exactly the wrong conclusions. It's obvious. You have misconstrued the meaning of the words that were spoken and built a wrong theology around your misunderstanding.

Like I said before, the reason for that is because you are very ignorant of the historical, cultural, language, etc... context of the translated words. You've misinterpreted the words and then strung the misinterpretations together into the theology of Shiloah rather than the theology of God. In order to really understand the latter, you have to know the particulars.

It's really that simple. The rest of your post here is nonsensical rambling about how you have special knowledge from God and every other genuine Christian that actually studies the history, culture, and language of Jesus's day and time when He spoke the words doesn't.

Denial is more than the river in Egypt you're swimming in.
All you are are assumptions. You've no idea my education. I ALMOST posted it, but then didn't, for the same reason I'm so continually disgusted with your continuous bragging of being so much more educated than everyone else. I'll just leave it at this. I have studied the history of the church. I also know I have a decent IQ, and I have never been told I am delusional by some doctor, so I have no reason to assume my thinking is inferior to yours. My conclusions say your conclusions are entirely misguided. That probably has to do a lot with the fact that you put so much stock in you education, which again, has entirely to do with the doctrines of man. Jesus obviously never had any respect for self-proclaimed theological authorities. They obviously were entirely able to misinterpret scriptures.

You know nothing about the truth of God. This is made clear to me repeatedly in every one of your posts. You base every argument you make on your self-appointed (or shall I say self-annointed) authority apparently you believe was given to you through your education, again and again, given to you by men who believe even more highly of themselves.

Again and again, Christ said He would give wisdom to the simple and confound the wise. You clearly represent that standard, for you are clearly and entirely confounded by your own earthly wisdom.
 
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AgeofKnowledge

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Lol, injured pride and ignorance is in you honey. That's all these recent posts reveal. I forgive you and have love for you though. Now if we can just get all that cult heresy out of you.

The modern Christian world has so many bogus doctrines taught to them by men like you "AgeOfKnowledge." Your very name gives away your pretentiousness. The Prodestant world is little to no better than the Catholic world is nowadays. Most of their doctrines are based on a misunderstanding of scriptures. You're a perfect example of that which I speak. Cults can be small or they can involve the entire Christian world.
 

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Oh, by the way, I'm an annihilationist. I find it profoundly telling that those that teach we no longer need to keep God's law also teach that God sends us to hell where we remain in conscious torment forever and ever, in essence, a never-ending torture chamber. I keep God's laws because He told me too, because He has saved me from hopelessness and He's promised to give me Himself, in essence, meaning eternal life with HIM. That's my reward, to be with that ONE I love forever. I do nothing in fear of eternal torment because I don't believe in it. Again, I do what I do out of love for my Lord, my King, and my God.
very impressive.
 
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Shiloah

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Lol, injured pride and ignorance is in you honey. That's all these recent posts reveal. I forgive you and have love for you though. Now if we can just get all that cult heresy out of you.
I am amazed though that after all of your supposed education you can't do any better than this. You can't even address what I say scripturally. You just keep throwing your "you're part of a cult" insults. Clearly, all your grandeous education didn't teach you how to act like anything but a naughty child. But like scriptures keep telling me;

Proverbs 20:4 4 Don’t answer the foolish arguments of fools, or you will become as foolish as they are.

I am guilty of that.
 

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Lol, injured pride and ignorance is in you honey. That's all these recent posts reveal. I forgive you and have love for you though. Now if we can just get all that cult heresy out of you.

lol....you're such a flexible guy AoK

 
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AgeofKnowledge

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There you go again silly. One of the features of Proverbs 20:4 has to do with self-control and the power to cool passions.

And here you are, a proponent of cult heresies, wielding the verse in a post that clearly lacks self-control and is designed to inflame. That's naughty... lol.





I am amazed though that after all of your supposed education you can't do any better than this. You can't even address what I say scripturally. You just keep throwing your "you're part of a cult" insults. Clearly, all your grandeous education didn't teach you how to act like anything but a naughty child. But like scriptures keep telling me;

Proverbs 20:4 4 Don’t answer the foolish arguments of fools, or you will become as foolish as they are.

I am guilty of that.
 
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Shiloah

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And I can just feel the love.... ;)
 
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Reformedjason

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The mark of the beast in my opinion will be in the mind. Not some tattoo , satan is smart. If he says line up and I will tattoo your head, people will be know something is up. People that don't know Christ will be deceived. They will take the mark in their foreheads and not know it. Things of God will seem like foolishness to them. If you have the mark of God , satan will not be able to fool you. What is in the forehead? The mind. Why the right hand? That is the people doing satans work.
 

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There you go again silly. One of the features of Proverbs 20:4 has to do with self-control and the power to cool passions.

And here you are, a proponent of cult heresies, wielding the verse in a post that clearly lacks self-control and is designed to inflame. That's naughty... lol.
you missed the martyr's nod to failing (someone's fault tho).

I am amazed though that after all of your supposed education you can't do any better than this. You can't even address what I say scripturally. You just keep throwing your "you're part of a cult" insults. Clearly, all your grandeous education didn't teach you how to act like anything but a naughty child. But like scriptures keep telling me;

Proverbs 20:4 4 Don’t answer the foolish arguments of fools, or you will become as foolish as they are.

I am guilty of that.
 
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danschance

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*[[1Jn 2:4]] KJV* He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
No one here is advocating the abandonment of the moral laws of God. The ceremonial laws and dietary laws have been fulfilled and are currently obsolete.

We are to still not to murder, slander, fornicate, steal, covet, etc. But notice Jesus never tells the man in Matt 19, to obey the sabbath or make sure not to eat pork. If the Sabbath is so important, why did Jesus not mention it at that point? Plus you ignored what the disciples said that Sarah posted.

25 When his disciples heard it, they were exceedingly amazed, saying, Who then can be saved?
26 But Jesus beheld them, and said unto them, With men this is impossible; but with God all things are possible.
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Or maybe they just continued reading the book of Acts and seen this

"17 Now while Peter doubted in himself what this vision which he had seen should mean , behold , the men which were sent from Cornelius had made enquiry for Simon's house, and stood before the gate, 18 And called , and asked whether Simon, which was surnamed Peter, were lodged there. 19 While Peter thought on the vision, the Spirit said unto him, Behold , three men seek thee. 20 Arise therefore, and get thee down , and go with them, doubting nothing: for I have sent them. 21 Then Peter went down to the men which were sent unto him from Cornelius; and said , Behold , I am he whom ye seek : what is the cause wherefore ye are come ? 22 And they said , Cornelius the centurion, a just man, and one that feareth God, and of good report among all the nation of the Jews, was warned from God by an holy angel to send for thee into his house, and to hear words of thee. 23 Then called he them in , and lodged them. And on the morrow Peter went away with them, and certain brethren from Joppa accompanied him. 24 And the morrow after they entered into Caesarea. And Cornelius waited for them , and had called together his kinsmen and near friends. 25 And as Peter was coming in , Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him. 26 But Peter took him up , saying , Stand up ; I myself also am a man. 27 And as he talked with him, he went in , and found many that were come together . 28 And he said unto them, Ye know how that it is an unlawful thing for a man that is a Jew to keep company , or come unto one of another nation; but God hath shewed me that I should not call any man common or unclean. "
it is true that God used the vision to teach peter not to consider gentiles to be unclean...

-however- the fact remains that God would not tell someone to sin...not even as a symbol of something else...so evidently eating 'unclean' food would not have been a sin...

otherwise peter would have been -right- to refuse...and God would have had to say 'wait let me come up with another symbol that doesn't involve me commanding you to sin'...

and like i said already...one of the main things that made the gentiles 'unclean' in the jews' eyes was the fact that they ate unclean foods...so this isn't just an entirely unrelated symbol...
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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Amazing how we can be blind to the obvious. These people were sinning at the same time they kept these sabbaths and feasts. Need I say more?
most sabbath keepers -today- are sinning at the same time they keep the sabbaths and feasts...

they sin because they 'put God to the test by placing upon the neck of the disciples a yoke which neither our fathers nor we have been able to bear'...acts 15:10...and because they have 'disturbed you with their words, unsettling your souls'...acts 15:24...

and sabbath keepers sin by giving false testimony against their neighbors when they accuse non sabbath keepers and call them future recipients of the mark of the beast...
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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We already covered this Rachel. Jesus is our High Priest. The priests worked on the sabbath in the temple and were not guilty.
yes we did cover this...the bible says -we- are also priests...so we can also work on the sabbath and not be guilty of sin...
 
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RachelBibleStudent

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What do you think the scripture about pulling your ram or sheep or whatever out of a ditch is about? We have to do a bit of deductive reasoning to think that out.
i was really just making the point that for a denomination that claims everything they teach and do is based on scripture...and that accuses everyone else of just giving their opinions...this person made a post justifying his sabbath practices that wasn't based on scripture and appealed repeatedly to personal opinion...

what i was pointing out was a fine example of hypocrisy...