Obama a muslim?

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Muslim forums and other forums suggest he may be.

In islam it is spoken of war from the inside as a focus such a pretending to be something to gain access
Apparently muslims were attacked from the inside by another muslim communist group trying to kill out this group.
Very calculated attacks from every one surrounding.


There has been a lot of lying to the people for a very long time about many things that seem so good but are truly not.
 
No. This is very ignorant and offensive and is contrary to the commandment of 'thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour'.

Horrible thread.
 
I was reading articles about it also in islamic home pages as well as in other media.
Many reasons why i question it.
Of course it would be kept secret if he were.
Maybe i beleive he is a muslim.
 
Personally, I think is absurd to accuse Obama of being a muslim, because there is no evidence.

1) No one has ever said they saw him attend services at any Mosque.
2) He has attended a Christian church for 20 years.
3) No one has ever seen him pray as the Muslims do.
4) He eats non-halal meats.
5) His favorite dish includes pork. forbidden by the Koran.
6) He drinks beer, forbidden by the Koran.
7) He has publicly denied being a Muslim.
8) He was accused of being a muslim by an unnamed source during his presidential campaign.
9) Obama's father, a muslim, left him when he was 13 months old. After that he was raised by his mother who is a Christian.
10) He grew up in Hawaii, which did not have a mosque while Obama grew up.

So now, you bring up a bunch of Muslims he think it is possible to be a muslim and pretend to be a Christian, who drinks alcohol, eats pork and attends Christian services. In other words you have brought up groundless charges against Obam because you think he is a muslim. Is that correct?
 
I wouldn't say he is a muslim, nor he is a Christian. He is more lenient to the muslim interest yes, it's been very clear from many of his and his officials political actions. (Authors like Walid Shoebat and Raymond Ibrahim, are 2 of the many argument-full critics plus John MacArthur exposition on whether is Obama a Christian also a good one).
His mother wasn't a Christian as well, as far as I am concerned.

Of course only Jesus knows whether Obama really believes in him or not, but from 'his fruits', in my opinion, a man who laughs at biblical verses (both from OT and NT), it's very reasonable to doubt his faith.

May Jesus' mercy be upon us
 
My apologies.

It was out of place.

Many muslims attend christian churches and marry woman that they call chirstians "children of the book".

I saw footage that said he is muslim and of him praising islam and saying he is muslim but i beleive it was manipulated footage.
The other articles were also probably been from mal.

If he were muslim he could still be a good man and still beleive old testament.
Some muslims live less strict than others.
One muslim brother even married a woman who was swearing, smoking and drinking and was not christian even.
This is 4bidden but he chose to do so anyway.
This man went to masjid every day and never drank alcohol but rarely smoked hubbly bubbly (flavoured tobacco smoked in water pipe)
Maybe he decided to wait for her and teach her the way or be patient with her.


I have also had people say things about me that are not true and being a public figure or/and dissliked one may be exposed more to such.
To even have footage manipulated that he is saying all these things but it did look "dubbed" at the end of the tape.
They may of added to him saying it sweet then after a while they added other text.
In the beginning of the film footage it looked real speech after a while it changed and looked dubbed/manipulated as i see on second view.


It was in wrong of this islamic homepage to say he is muslim if he is not and then have footage of him holding speeches pretty much saying he is.

We should be open minded and tolerant to different types of people and not hate people or disciminate them for having another religion or race or culture.

I was not writing in hate but my writings were wrong and out of place.
(it happens)

4give me father for i have sinned, once again i write things that should not of been written.
If I was a media with rock solid evidence yes i would.
But im not and was not.
It was a topic that is personal and that is wrong also to speak of a person and on a site, despite being public figure.
I actually was not inciting hate or ill willing.

I have been on some muslim sites and have islam in my background but am now born again christian.
Not sure what "flew into me"
All i can do is agree: it was inappropriate and out of place.
 
About President Obama Of The United States Of America. I have heard many suggestions and conspiracies.
Most of em I don't believe. The one suggesting he is planning to sell the Us to China seems to be waterproff tho.
 
He went to Muslim school in Indonesia when he was growing up.
He bowed to the king of Saudi Arabia the first time he met him.
During an interview with George Stephenolplopolous(sp), He inadvertently said - "My muslim faith"
(To which George quickly corrected him - "christian");
Obama - "My christian faith".
The church he went to in Chicago didn't require its members to be christian.
And on and on......
He was the first president to not hold a prayer breakfast since that particular tradition was started.
(Since then he has), nothing to do with politics though I'm sure.
I could go on and on.
His name growing up was Barry Soetoro. People knew him as 'Barry' in Hawaii, when he lived there with his grandparents.
He chose the name 'Barrack' because it was the name of Mohamed's horse.
And on and on.
His grampa was big in the Ford foundation.
His mom and dad met each other in a 'Russian Language" class. Not because they were training to do anything for the CIA.
Senior Obama was a member of the Kenyen royal family....and on and on.
Barrack's cousin was the non elected campaigner whose followers rioted when he lost the election in Kenya.
Many were brutally killed. (Including all the members of an Assembly of God Church who happened to be hiding inside).
They were killed, one by one as they tried to escape the blaze that was set to their place of worship.
And on and on.
He was chosen at a young age to be a front man for the power elite by Zbigniew Brzezinski. (High mover and shaker representing the liberal faction of the new world order as Henry Kissinger represented the right.)
After serving 3 years as a U.S. senator he announced his candidacy for, and was elected president of the U.S.
 
I am an Indonesian, but his 2 former schools were catholic and state/public school, not madrassa (islamic school). however, he was registered as a muslim in the student registration.
almost all government leaders are bowing down to islamic kings (qatar, saudi, uae etc)indirectly, by agreeing receiving gifts or grants with in exchange total guarantee of islam-supportive environment.
A better point to accuse his faith as a muslim is, why nobody in sharia law governed country killed him or tried to kill him, as he is an apostate and penalty for those who left islam is death (based on Sharia (quran and hadith)).

In the end, Jesus knows his complete reality though.

God's grace be upon us
 
RickShafer said:
He went to Muslim school in Indonesia when he was growing up.
He bowed to the king of Saudi Arabia the first time he met him.
During an interview with George Stephenolplopolous(sp), He inadvertently said - "My muslim faith"
(To which George quickly corrected him - "christian");
Obama - "My christian faith".
The church he went to in Chicago didn't require its members to be christian.
And on and on......
He was the first president to not hold a prayer breakfast since that particular tradition was started.
(Since then he has), nothing to do with politics though I'm sure.
I could go on and on.
His name growing up was Barry Soetoro. People knew him as 'Barry' in Hawaii, when he lived there with his grandparents.
He chose the name 'Barrack' because it was the name of Mohamed's horse.
And on and on.
His grampa was big in the Ford foundation.
His mom and dad met each other in a 'Russian Language" class. Not because they were training to do anything for the CIA.
Senior Obama was a member of the Kenyen royal family....and on and on.
Barrack's cousin was the non elected campaigner whose followers rioted when he lost the election in Kenya.
Many were brutally killed. (Including all the members of an Assembly of God Church who happened to be hiding inside).
They were killed, one by one as they tried to escape the blaze that was set to their place of worship.
And on and on.
He was chosen at a young age to be a front man for the power elite by Zbigniew Brzezinski. (High mover and shaker representing the liberal faction of the new world order as Henry Kissinger represented the right.)
After serving 3 years as a U.S. senator he announced his candidacy for, and was elected president of the U.S.
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He DID NOT go to muslim school. He went to public and Catholic school in Indonesia.
 
When Obama was 2 years old, his parents divorced and his father moved away from the family's home in Hawaii. Four years later, his mother married an Indonesian man, Lolo Soetoro, who moved his new wife and stepson to Jakarta. Obama attended a Muslim school in Indonesia for two years as a child, he wrote in in "Dreams From My Father," his first memoir.

"The teacher wrote to tell my mother that I made faces during Koranic studies," he said.

Obama was exposed to a variety of religious experiences at a young age.
"During the five years that we would live with my stepfather in Indonesia, I was sent first to a neighborhood Catholic school and then to a predominately Muslim school," Obama wrote in "Audacity." "In our household, the Bible, the Koran, and the Bhagavad Gita sat on the shelf."
 
well of course the public school in indonesia will be dominated by muslim students. back then 93% of Indonesians are muslims. however, public schools isn't the same with Madrassa. Just FYI. Indonesia was never, is not. and by the Grace of Jesus, will never be a Sharia country. (amen!)
however, he might get Quranic studies, yes, since he was registered as a muslim.
 
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isaria said:
My apologies.

It was out of place.

Many muslims attend christian churches and marry woman that they call chirstians "children of the book".

I saw footage that said he is muslim and of him praising islam and saying he is muslim but i beleive it was manipulated footage.
The other articles were also probably been from mal.

If he were muslim he could still be a good man and still beleive old testament.
Some muslims live less strict than others.
One muslim brother even married a woman who was swearing, smoking and drinking and was not christian even.
This is 4bidden but he chose to do so anyway.
This man went to masjid every day and never drank alcohol but rarely smoked hubbly bubbly (flavoured tobacco smoked in water pipe)
Maybe he decided to wait for her and teach her the way or be patient with her.


I have also had people say things about me that are not true and being a public figure or/and dissliked one may be exposed more to such.
To even have footage manipulated that he is saying all these things but it did look "dubbed" at the end of the tape.
They may of added to him saying it sweet then after a while they added other text.
In the beginning of the film footage it looked real speech after a while it changed and looked dubbed/manipulated as i see on second view.


It was in wrong of this islamic homepage to say he is muslim if he is not and then have footage of him holding speeches pretty much saying he is.

We should be open minded and tolerant to different types of people and not hate people or disciminate them for having another religion or race or culture.

I was not writing in hate but my writings were wrong and out of place.
(it happens)

4give me father for i have sinned, once again i write things that should not of been written.
If I was a media with rock solid evidence yes i would.
But im not and was not.
It was a topic that is personal and that is wrong also to speak of a person and on a site, despite being public figure.
I actually was not inciting hate or ill willing.

I have been on some muslim sites and have islam in my background but am now born again christian.
Not sure what "flew into me"
All i can do is agree: it was inappropriate and out of place.
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There is no need for you to apologize for this thread because a few people in here don't like what you had to say. If they don't like your thread then they didn't have to type in it.

Is he secretly a Muslim? I don't know.
Is there reason to believe he holds some Islamic beliefs? Yes.
Some conspiracy theories point to that he is, but they are conspiracy theories and I am not much of a fan of such things. No matter his religion we do live in a country where according to the constitution his religious beliefs do not matter.
 
he didn't go to a madrassa. you're welcome rick. please pray for Indonesia.
 
isaria said:
Muslim forums and other forums suggest he may be.

In islam it is spoken of war from the inside as a focus such a pretending to be something to gain access
Apparently muslims were attacked from the inside by another muslim communist group trying to kill out this group.
Very calculated attacks from every one surrounding.


There has been a lot of lying to the people for a very long time about many things that seem so good but are truly not.
Click to expand...


I don't think that Obama is a follower of islam....he is simply a liberal....where anything goes...it's a case of 'I'm Ok, you're OK'...

Obama is a fence sitter...he doesn't want to offend anyone by plainly stating his beliefs to the world...that is why I have little respect for the man.
 
Obama's not my favorite President by any stretch of the imagination, nor is he one I agree with most of the time or even like. My opinion is maybe he is a Muslim, but whatever he is, he isn't someone I would vote for again if he could run a 3rd term
 
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