Why I'm getting the vaccine.

[Magenta]

I thought that it was Elijah with the bears...he was pretty handy with calling fire down from the sky...but it's been years since I read the passages about the two.
You might be right.
I remember it was a bunch of juvenile delinquents and his head was shaved for Nazarite vows...

I'll have to read Kings again to refresh my memory. *Sigh*

Elisha and the Two Bears (2 Kings 2:23-25)

23 Then he (Elisha) went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up by the way, young lads came out from the city and mocked him and said to him, “Go up, you baldhead; go up, you baldhead!” 24 When he looked behind him and saw them, he cursed them in the name of the LORD. Then two female bears came out of the woods and tore up forty-two lads of their number. 25 And he went from there to Mount Carmel, and from there he returned to Samaria.

 

[JohnDB]

Elisha and the Two Bears (2 Kings 2:23-25)

23 Then he (Elisha) went up from there to Bethel; and as he was going up by the way, young lads came out from the city and mocked him and said to him, “Go up, you baldhead; go up, you baldhead!” 24 When he looked behind him and saw them, he cursed them in the name of the LORD. Then two female bears came out of the woods and tore up forty-two lads of their number. 25 And he went from there to Mount Carmel, and from there he returned to Samaria.

Yep...I'm going to have to read/study all this again.


Oh...oh...oh....

Just read that chapter again...
That back and forth thing had to be annoying as all get out.
From Gigal to Bethel back to Jericho and then finally across the Jordan just to come back to Jericho, fix the well and then back to Bethel again...he had been burning up that same road over and over again.
(Gigal was somewhat a riverside suburb of Jericho)

That walking back and forth musta been a sight to see.
That's probably what attracted the attention of the youths.
Might of been millennials...

 

[Nehemiah6]

We all are looking at the data, research, and expert opinions to try and make an educated choice for our personal health. It is hard to do with so much misinformation, unknown, lack of research, and experts who disagree.

There is plenty of sound, scientific, and reliable information. You just have to separate the wheat from the chaff.
Neuroscientist Breaks Down Vaccine's Glaring Weakness and Why Officials Won't Tell You the Alternative
"Early in the pandemic, some scientists and physicians argued that pursuing herd immunity was a better strategy for stemming the coronavirus than enacting one-size-fits-all lockdowns and mask mandates. However, many of these scientists were silenced, deplatformed and/or attacked by the media."
https://www.westernjournal.com/neur...ing-weakness-officials-wont-tell-alternative/

People should always bear in mind that there were two vicious and evil campaigns going on since January 2020: (1) an unbelievable campaign against the Wuhan origin of the bio-weapon and a huge attempt to maximize COVID deaths to create fear and panic and (2) a huge attempt to sabotage all effective treatments and supplements such as HCQ, the HCQ combo pack with azithromycin and zinc, ivermectin, zinc, vitamin D, etc.

The mainstream media plotted and planned to ensure that there would be a daily barrage of bogus "cases" and "deaths" in order to maintain lockdowns, masking, distancing, etc. and once the "vaccines" were rolled out, every effort was made to prevent people from knowing the truth about the numbers of deaths and adverse effects. IOW there was a worldwide COVID Conspiracy which has yet to be addressed. The next step by the evil media was to make the unvaccinated the scapegoats for all infections which proved that the "vaccines" were worthless.

 

[mindfulzen]

https://investors.modernatx.com/new...ounces-new-study-showing-its-covid-19-vaccine


https://www.yahoo.com/news/double-jabbed-people-carry-same-140126657.html

The two articles...

not natuarrllt

You say fear of death is understandable, but agree we have nothing to fear when I claim it, them accuse me of spamming you because I have responded to you? I am not sure why you are so upset.

The OP stated that he took the first jab, and if we do not hear from him in the next week, it is because he might have died. I do not know if he fears death, but he sure has thought about it. So, I say I understand and offer some info, if he wants to make sure he avoids the one that old folks do not get here. The next jab, and can be assured some if it is the one he already got too. Accusing me of fearing death is incorrect. Accusing me of being upset, is also incorrect.

 

[Moses_Young]

It seems you believe that any Christian who has been vaxxed has renounced Jesus as their Lord and Savior

I didn't use those words. I believe those who have accepted the vax have allowed an abomination which causes desolation (the gene modification substance) into God's temple (i.e. His people). These people have surrendered the sovereignty of their bodies to something that is not God. What if this modification allows your mind to be controlled? Then the mind controlled might be controlled to renounce Jesus as Lord and Saviour. What if these people are no longer considered to be man? Whether the vax is the Mark of the Beast or no, if one doesn't draw the line at giving the government access to one's body (which, for Christians, really belongs to God), the Mark of the Beast is only footsteps away.

I am have not heard of this being part of the protocol... and now you are connecting it to the Nephilim which some believe were the offspring of angels and humans... again, not something everyone believes. However, I wonder if a study were to be done, if it could be determined how many anti-vaxxers also believe it is the mark of the beast, and if they also subscribe to the theory that the Nephilim were offspring of angels and humans.

In general, my posts are directed to those who believe the bible. If people do not, it is to their detriment. Those who refuse to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.

 

[Magenta]

I didn't use those words. I believe those who have accepted the vax have allowed an abomination which causes desolation (the gene modification substance) into God's temple (i.e. His people). These people have surrendered the sovereignty of their bodies to something that is not God. What if this modification allows your mind to be controlled? Then the mind controlled might be controlled to renounce Jesus as Lord and Saviour. What if these people are no longer considered to be man? Whether the vax is the Mark of the Beast or no, if one doesn't draw the line at giving the government access to one's body (which, for Christians, really belongs to God), the Mark of the Beast is only footsteps away.

In general, my posts are directed to those who believe the bible. If people do not, it is to their detriment. Those who refuse to learn from the past are doomed to repeat it.

You didn't use those words, but accepting the MotB amounts to renouncing Jesus... and I believe you know this. The mark of the beast cannot exist until the beast himself is in power during the tribulation. Do you believe we are in the tribulation now?

 

[Roughsoul1991]

There is plenty of sound, scientific, and reliable information. You just have to separate the wheat from the chaff.
Neuroscientist Breaks Down Vaccine's Glaring Weakness and Why Officials Won't Tell You the Alternative
"Early in the pandemic, some scientists and physicians argued that pursuing herd immunity was a better strategy for stemming the coronavirus than enacting one-size-fits-all lockdowns and mask mandates. However, many of these scientists were silenced, deplatformed and/or attacked by the media."
https://www.westernjournal.com/neur...ing-weakness-officials-wont-tell-alternative/

People should always bear in mind that there were two vicious and evil campaigns going on since January 2020: (1) an unbelievable campaign against the Wuhan origin of the bio-weapon and a huge attempt to maximize COVID deaths to create fear and panic and (2) a huge attempt to sabotage all effective treatments and supplements such as HCQ, the HCQ combo pack with azithromycin and zinc, ivermectin, zinc, vitamin D, etc.

The mainstream media plotted and planned to ensure that there would be a daily barrage of bogus "cases" and "deaths" in order to maintain lockdowns, masking, distancing, etc. and once the "vaccines" were rolled out, every effort was made to prevent people from knowing the truth about the numbers of deaths and adverse effects. IOW there was a worldwide COVID Conspiracy which has yet to be addressed. The next step by the evil media was to make the unvaccinated the scapegoats for all infections which proved that the "vaccines" were worthless.

I forgot to add conspuracies only complicated the search for truth. I have heard everything you posted above, then everything against it, then other opinions as well. I for one do not see it to be so easy to separate fact from fiction. I would prefer doctors to promote other ways than just the vaccine but if I choose to only listen to them then I am allowing a bias to corrupt my search for truth. It really just comes down to who you trust.

 

[Moses_Young]

You didn't use those words, but accepting the MotB amounts to renouncing Jesus... and I believe you know this. The mark of the beast cannot exist until the beast himself is in power during the tribulation. Do you believe we are in the tribulation now?

That's not a belief I would stake my salvation on. Man is created in God's image. It is not for us to surrender God's image to Satan's abominations.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

You didn't use those words, but accepting the MotB amounts to renouncing Jesus... and I believe you know this. The mark of the beast cannot exist until the beast himself is in power during the tribulation. Do you believe we are in the tribulation now?

The Mark will be this
Revelation 13 and 20,

Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name. This calls for wisdom: let the one who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666.

Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands.
———

It will be the number 666 on the forehead or their hand. Also noted, during the tribulation. The beast is also not hidden but very evident.

So where is this number? Where is the beast? Where is the mark on the forehead or hand? Is it imagery or literal? I believe literal as John doesn't say it was like but literally explains it.

 

[Moses_Young]

The Mark will be this
Revelation 13 and 20,

Also it causes all, both small and great, both rich and poor, both free and slave, to be marked on the right hand or the forehead, so that no one can buy or sell unless he has the mark, that is, the name of the beast or the number of its name. This calls for wisdom: let the one who has understanding calculate the number of the beast, for it is the number of a man, and his number is 666.

Also I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded for the testimony of Jesus and for the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands.
———

It will be the number 666 on the forehead or their hand. Also noted, during the tribulation. The beast is also not hidden but very evident.

So where is this number? Where is the beast? Where is the mark on the forehead or hand? Is it imagery or literal? I believe literal as John doesn't say it was like but literally explains it.

I still think letting Caesar mark Christ's followers is dangerous territory.

For example, can a Christian practice witch-craft? God destroyed the Earth because of the wickedness which came after the Nephilim. I believe the gene modifications are in the same category. If you will accept the mark in your arm, why not your right hand or forehead? Is the mark literal, but the locations metaphorical (right hand - obedience to the beast government, forehead - fear or worship of the government)? Why would a Christian let Caesar put Caesar's mark on Christ's body or His temple? The vax might be the Mark of the Beast, it might be a very close test run. But if you don't draw the line now, how and where will you draw one?

 

[Magenta]

That's not a belief I would stake my salvation on. Man is created in God's image. It is not for us to surrender God's image to Satan's abominations.

You did not answer the question... if this vax is the MotB then we are in the tribulation.

Do you believe we are in the tribulation?

 

[JohnDB]

I still think letting Caesar mark Christ's followers is dangerous territory.

For example, can a Christian practice witch-craft? God destroyed the Earth because of the wickedness which came after the Nephilim. I believe the gene modifications are in the same category. If you will accept the mark in your arm, why not your right hand or forehead? Is the mark literal, but the locations metaphorical (right hand - obedience to the beast government, forehead - fear or worship of the government)? Why would a Christian let Caesar put Caesar's mark on Christ's body or His temple? The vax might be the Mark of the Beast, it might be a very close test run. But if you don't draw the line now, how and where will you draw one?

I'm truly trying to understand his hermeneutics with his assertions but it's really out there from any point of view I have heard of.

My main sticking points are:

Why God didn't send us people to develop the mRNA vaccines that seem to be an excellent answer to the global pandemic.

The number 666 is absolutely missing from the pharmaceutical companies and vaccines.

Beast behavior and rejection of God. (Moderna scientist at Vanderbilt University is a Christian man)

Hand or forehead mark...which is a stamp done with a hammer.

Then on top of this we have someone labeling something that has been proven to be good as evil...which is something that Jesus said something very critical about.

And in times past the signs God used for his people to follow were always very very obvious and clear. (Blood on doorpost, pillar of fire, flags on poles, deaf-mutes hearing and speaking, blind seeing, dead coming to life, and etc etc etc. The signs of evil were just as obvious and blatant as these. None have been fully evidenced yet outside the norm that regularly happen.

 

[Moses_Young]

You did not answer the question... if this vax is the MotB then we are in the tribulation.

Do you believe we are in the tribulation?

That's your belief. I don't believe the prophecies are clear enough to say. I'm not sure if we are in the tribulation.

 

[JohnDB]

RNA are the instructions of what DNA to read and how to read them.
These messenger RNA vaccines simply tell your body to fight this specific virus and how to recognize it...which results in your body producing antibodies to fight it off. There is no changing of DNA.
The virus? It absolutely changes your DNA...it changes your cells into virus producing factories. It infects your immune system until you begin to have an over reaction and then you begin to die from organ failure. Since it really likes your endocrine systems there's a strong possibility that this virus will cause birth defects in future generations of those once infected.

 

[Magenta]

That's your belief. I don't believe the prophecies are clear enough to say. I'm not sure if we are in the tribulation.

I am trying to determine your beliefs and why you keep saying people have received the MotB if vaxxed. It does not appear to have any basis whatsoever in Scripture. Just something you like to say for the trollishness of it... much like other things you repeatedly say.

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

I don't think we are in Mark of the beast territory here & the OP has prayed about his decision and is satisfied with it.

For now.

What I would consider if you yield to this phase of the Covid Program is that you are trusting the very establishment that introduced the virus in the first place to give you advice about it. Along with the invasive alledged prevention.

Remember "Have the vaccine and return to normal" was the exhortation at first. It wasn't mentioned about the second, third, and never-ending booster shots apart from the myriad of variants that can be as many as the vax pushers deem necessary.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

I still think letting Caesar mark Christ's followers is dangerous territory.

For example, can a Christian practice witch-craft? God destroyed the Earth because of the wickedness which came after the Nephilim. I believe the gene modifications are in the same category. If you will accept the mark in your arm, why not your right hand or forehead? Is the mark literal, but the locations metaphorical (right hand - obedience to the beast government, forehead - fear or worship of the government)? Why would a Christian let Caesar put Caesar's mark on Christ's body or His temple? The vax might be the Mark of the Beast, it might be a very close test run. But if you don't draw the line now, how and where will you draw one?

There will be no might be the mark. You will know. It will be a deliberate choice that is if you here on Earth during the Tribulation period.

How do you know your DNA has not been modified already? Have you not had any vaccines ever? What if your parents or grandparents did?

Plus it is said that it doesn't modify your DNA. So we have a obvious contradiction.

Hand and forehead are quite literal. Plus the number 666.

 

[JohnDB]

I find it very disconcerting that people who couldn't help their children with middle school mathematics have somehow become experts in the fields of Virology, epidemiology, physiology, and immunology...
All the fields requiring an above average understanding of mathematics and calculus...

Just saying.

 

[Gardenias]

Yes, after much deliberation, this 70 year old is having his first jab tomorrow. It was a difficult decision to make. I consulted my GP first. I was also prompted by my son. We talk from time to time and he told me that he's had the two jabs. He obviously survived and he had few side effects.

I do very little without praying about it and I have peace about my decision. If you don't hear from me in the next week or so, you'll know it was a bad one.

I understand why people are avoiding the vaccine. It's your right and your choice. What I don't accept is that Christians have the right to abuse, slander or condemn those who don't think as they do. I won't accept that you have the right to quote opinion as fact, or present false and misleading information as if was truth. We will give an account of every idle word that we say. I suggest that Christians fact check their statements before they hit the keyboard.

You do what you think is best,I've felt the same and had my first injection and get my second next Fri.

It is still a free choice and fear and hate should not be what leads us but the SPIRIT!

I'll leave it to God to sort it in the end!
Rest in the Lord is not anxiety,fear or anguish but peaceful calm!

 

[HisKid]

Yes, after much deliberation, this 70 year old is having his first jab tomorrow. It was a difficult decision to make. I consulted my GP first. I was also prompted by my son. We talk from time to time and he told me that he's had the two jabs. He obviously survived and he had few side effects.

I do very little without praying about it and I have peace about my decision. If you don't hear from me in the next week or so, you'll know it was a bad one.

I understand why people are avoiding the vaccine. It's your right and your choice. What I don't accept is that Christians have the right to abuse, slander or condemn those who don't think as they do. I won't accept that you have the right to quote opinion as fact, or present false and misleading information as if was truth. We will give an account of every idle word that we say. I suggest that Christians fact check their statements before they hit the keyboard.

Gideon, can you explain why you have announced this here? What kind of response are you looking for? I'm just very confused as to why you felt the need to announce it. As for me, I am not in the least bit concerned about your decision. It's your decision. There was really no need for you to make this announce, was there? Just so very curious.