Who is to blame for the latest Isreal Palestine war really ?

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wolfwint said:
No, your are one the wrong boat and you have to much phantasie.
First: Israel is in war now, because Hamas killed 1200 peaceful civilans. Including raping woman and killing children.
Second: Hamas is taking social places ( hospitals, schools) and palastine civilians to protect themselves behind them.
Third: Hamas did this in knewing that many palastine civilians will die.
Fourth: Netanjahu has maby no white west. But he did this war not for to kill children under 2 years old.

As I said, if the International Fellowship including the arab countrys which belong to the UN wantet to stop Hamas they could do this very quick. Because Hamas is a criminal organisation.

But they dont realy want.
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see you forgot to ask me my perspective again,

Happy New year 😊
 
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wolfwint said:
because Hamas killed 1200 peaceful civilans.
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The fact is that many were IDF and that many were killed by the IDF to prevent the taking of hostages.
The IDF also set fire to the cars.
It is really important to have the facts straight because it is not exactly known how many were killed by Hamas and/or the IDF.
 
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wolfwint said:
Happy New year, i did not forgot to ask your perspective 😀
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well if the massacre of innocence reaches 14000 infants killed in Gazza the lord could return soon.

I think it's nearly at that figure now
 
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HeIsHere said:
Victim blaming, and the numbers are disproportionate, so wrong.
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Hamas is in your eyes victim.
An Organisation with the goal to eliminate all jews and is doing so much they can to do it, is in my eyes no victim.
 
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wolfwint said:
Hamas is in your eyes victim.
An Organisation with the goal to eliminate all jews and is doing so much they can to do it, is in my eyes no victim.
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This is not Hamas >>>>> "well if the massacre of innocence reaches 14000 infants killed in Gazza the lord could return soon

They did not die by Hamas rockets, get the facts straight.
 
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This is not Hamas >>>>> "well if the massacre of innocence reaches 14000 infants killed in Gazza the lord could return soon

They did not die by Hamas rockets, get the facts straight.
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But Hamas is the reason of this war.
In which country you live?
Which country government would accept that an Terrororganisation which openly claimed to wipe you out of your country and kill you, without trying to stop this?

As I said their are states like Iran and Quartar who could stop it, by unarming the Hamas.
But the dont want, because they have the same goal. eliminate Israel.
 
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wolfwint said:
But Hamas is the reason of this war.
In which country you live?
Which country government would accept that an Terrororganisation which openly claimed to wipe you out of your country and kill you, without trying to stop this?

As I said their are states like Iran and Quartar who could stop it, by unarming the Hamas.
But the dont want, because they have the same goal. eliminate Israel.
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some would say keep attacking Russia untill Ukraine is destroyed. have you thought about whether there is another party at play other than hamas.
 
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some would say keep attacking Russia untill Ukraine is destroyed. have you thought about whether there is another party at play other than hamas.
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So far I know no ucraine attacked russia and killed their civilians! But russia attacked the ucraine. Not allone this in 2014 taking land from ucraine.
Would GB or the USA tolerate if Irland or Mexiko would take land from their territory?

It is interesting that russia and Iran are best friends.
 
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wolfwint said:
But Hamas is the reason of this war.
In which country you live?
Which country government would accept that an Terrororganisation which openly claimed to wipe you out of your country and kill you, without trying to stop this?

As I said their are states like Iran and Quartar who could stop it, by unarming the Hamas.
But the dont want, because they have the same goal. eliminate Israel.
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There is more than one reason, trying to make everything black and white is the first mistake in any conflict.
 
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So far I know no ucraine attacked russia and killed their civilians! But russia attacked the ucraine. Not allone this in 2014 taking land from ucraine.
Would GB or the USA tolerate if Irland or Mexiko would take land from their territory?

It is interesting that russia and Iran are best friends.
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How about the promises made to Gorbachev by NATO and the USA, how about starting at the beginning not in the middle.
 
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How about the promises made to Gorbachev by NATO and the USA, how about starting at the beginning not in the middle.
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Yes, thats a good point. Europe is so very much powerful and did everything the last decades to be able to attack russia.
Putin plays this card. And he does everything only for self defending. Sorry for be ironic!
I dont trust Putin in anyway.
 
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