Ukraine the bad guy?

[Fundaamental]

It's nice to know your life is only worth 400 dollars

What do you think 🤔

Basically Russia has people making a decision on whether to sacrifice there life for a 400 dollar gain,,,

It's a bit like saying I'll only do a risky job like say climbing a high building for no less than 200 dollars, because my life is worth more than a hundred dollars.

But still is your life only worth 200 dollars if you choose to climb that building

So basically you have this thought in mind which would be I know if I refuse to sign up this will show my life is worth more than 400 dollars.

But on the other hand if you don't sign up your telling your russian comrades you would rather pay 400 dollars than go and protect your friends who could die.

So you make a decision based on 400 dollars either way.

The chances are you would sign up to show that your not seen as a person who values russian life at 400 dollars

The irony of it

 

[cv5]

Asking Ukraine to surrender is asking them to lay down and die....Basically suicide.
And Russia has never once been timid about committing genocide. NEVER

I would say that 350K dead Ukrainians already constitute a de facto genocide. However, the fault lies with Z and the west.....not Russia.
Z because he caved, the west because they incited/escalated.

 

[JohnDB]

I would say that 350K dead Ukrainians already constitute a de facto genocide. However, the fault lies with Z and the west.....not Russia.
Z because he caved, the west because they incited/escalated.

So (using your numbers which doesn't include the genocide going on behind the lines I'm assuming) instead of 350k dead 8 million dead is perfectly acceptable?

You seem to think Russia is some sort of cute cuddly bear instead of the vicious rabid animal it is. Ask Poland about their time of occupation.
Ask the Czech Republic or Slovakia about their time of occupation.
Romania?
Azerbaijan?
Kazakhstan? (Who are currently feeling the heat of Russia beginning their occupation as well....they just might begin a new all out counter-offensive with Russia)

 

[ZNP]

So (using your numbers which doesn't include the genocide going on behind the lines I'm assuming) instead of 350k dead 8 million dead is perfectly acceptable?

You seem to think Russia is some sort of cute cuddly bear instead of the vicious rabid animal it is. Ask Poland about their time of occupation.
Ask the Czech Republic or Slovakia about their time of occupation.
Romania?
Azerbaijan?
Kazakhstan? (Who are currently feeling the heat of Russia beginning their occupation as well....they just might begin a new all out counter-offensive with Russia)

This is the wrong question. If you are going to get into the ring with Mike Tyson you have to be all in, 100%.

You can't say well we'll just use conventional warfare, no depleted uranium.

My bad, I mean you can't say we'll draw the line at advanced weapons systems like the F16.

Sorry, I'm looking at old statements out of the Whitehouse. My point is if you get into that heavyweight fight nothing is off the table, even banned weapons like cluster bombs. Even tactical nukes, and look this goes both ways. There is no referee that says you can only fight in Ukraine. Oil pipelines are on the table, world exports of food and grain is on the table, drone strikes on the Kremlin are on the table. That means that the same is true for Russia, they can attack Washington DC, they can attack our infrastructure, they can send people across our border.

So are you saying we must get into a nuclear holocaust with Russia in order to stop them taking control of Ukraine which is on their border and critical to their national defense, not ours.

 

[JohnDB]

This is the wrong question. If you are going to get into the ring with Mike Tyson you have to be all in, 100%.

You can't say well we'll just use conventional warfare, no depleted uranium.

My bad, I mean you can't say we'll draw the line at advanced weapons systems like the F16.

Sorry, I'm looking at old statements out of the Whitehouse. My point is if you get into that heavyweight fight nothing is off the table, even banned weapons like cluster bombs. Even tactical nukes, and look this goes both ways. There is no referee that says you can only fight in Ukraine. Oil pipelines are on the table, world exports of food and grain is on the table, drone strikes on the Kremlin are on the table. That means that the same is true for Russia, they can attack Washington DC, they can attack our infrastructure, they can send people across our border.

So are you saying we must get into a nuclear holocaust with Russia in order to stop them taking control of Ukraine which is on their border and critical to their national defense, not ours.

WE aren't fighting....Ukraine is. WE are merely keeping our promises according to the treaty WE signed with them.

It doesn't matter if you voted for Bill Clinton or not. He was our president and got the treaty. Corporate guilt, consequences, and privileges still apply no matter what.

 

[ZNP]

WE aren't fighting....Ukraine is. WE are merely keeping our promises according to the treaty WE signed with them.

It doesn't matter if you voted for Bill Clinton or not. He was our president and got the treaty. Corporate guilt, consequences, and privileges still apply no matter what.

F16s, Cluster bombs and depleted uranium shells were part of our treaty with Ukraine?

 

[cv5]

So (using your numbers which doesn't include the genocide going on behind the lines I'm assuming) instead of 350k dead 8 million dead is perfectly acceptable?

You seem to think Russia is some sort of cute cuddly bear instead of the vicious rabid animal it is. Ask Poland about their time of occupation.
Ask the Czech Republic or Slovakia about their time of occupation.
Romania?
Azerbaijan?
Kazakhstan? (Who are currently feeling the heat of Russia beginning their occupation as well....they just might begin a new all out counter-offensive with Russia)

Get a grip on reality.
-it is 2023 not 1933
-Russia is not the Soviet Union
-Putin is not Stalin

 

[JohnDB]

F16s, Cluster bombs and depleted uranium shells were part of our treaty with Ukraine?

Yep...they were...even up to F-16s and more.

ALL were included by the vague nature of the clauses. So we can give them anything we wish to. So can the rest of NATO.

 

[cv5]

WE aren't fighting....Ukraine is. WE are merely keeping our promises according to the treaty WE signed with them.

It doesn't matter if you voted for Bill Clinton or not. He was our president and got the treaty. Corporate guilt, consequences, and privileges still apply no matter what.

Regime change was part of the supposed "treaty"? No. No it was not. In fact it was merely one of the many egregious acts that VIOLATED/USURPED any treaties.

Do you understand the concept of "good faith" as regards treaties?

 

[ZNP]

Yep...they were...even up to F-16s and more.

ALL were included by the vague nature of the clauses. So we can give them anything we wish to. So can the rest of NATO.

Wow, how desperate do you have to be to get WWIII to interpret it as saying that. By that reasoning it includes ICBMs and tactical nukes and assassinations.

 

[cv5]

Yep...they were...even up to F-16s and more.

ALL were included by the vague nature of the clauses. So we can give them anything we wish to. So can the rest of NATO.

According to reputable sources, it will take (from the present) fully THIRTY MONTHS to train pilots and deliver aircraft.

Rots of ruck with that fantasy. Just another limp-wristed excuse to keep the fires of war burning and keep slaughtering Ukrainians.

Evidently, the pro-war pro-Ukraine crowd loves killing Ukrainians even MORE than the Russians do.....

 

[cv5]

Yep...they were...even up to F-16s and more.

ALL were included by the vague nature of the clauses. So we can give them anything we wish to. So can the rest of NATO.

Putin and Xi:
"bring it".....

 

[JohnDB]

Wow, how desperate do you have to be to get WWIII to interpret it as saying that. By that reasoning it includes ICBMs and tactical nukes and assassinations.

Doesn't matter if you like it or not.

I'm in no hurry but God might be. It's HIS call for when the missiles fly. Not mine and not yours.

And military activities will not end this war. Russia being to poor to continue will. And they have some serious issues going on as I posted earlier and more.

 

[JohnDB]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1684197388854915073

 

[cv5]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1684186297739493376

 

[BearerOfTheMorningStar]

A great recap of the month of big gains and pushes against Wicked Russian as told by that good Russian Dude included with the usual updates by Warthog Defense. Besides just numbers of Wicked Russian people killed being in trully massive counts, massive amoutns of Russian tanks that cannot be replaced so easily are being destroyed. As well as additional informations on lesser known but nonetheless senior military figure inside Wicked Russia caught up in Mad Tsar Putin's paranoid purges that are still on-going. Big losses for Unholy Russia and big gains and victories to the good guys of Ukraine and the Holy Russian revolutionaries, PRAISE JESUS!

 

[JohnDB]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1684470355497189377

 

[cv5]

Looking like the Russians are wiping out armored columns with total impunity......

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1684603840417394688

 

[cv5]

Warning: strong language.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1684574681666580480

 

[cv5]

Just sit down and negotiate and end the carnage. No army should be subjected to this kind of turkey shoot.

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1684552185357500417