Ukraine the bad guy?

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cv5

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I think JohnDB was sad that he was too old to join the Ukraine army, so this story might encourage him, they will take him now.
Could be. Word is they are now mobilizing 16 to 60 year-olds. I mean at 59 you might as well go out in a blaze of glory right?

Imagine having that much blood on your hands? And blood squandered so selfishly for little more than favors, funds and flake?
 

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Could be. Word is they are now mobilizing 16 to 60 year-olds. I mean at 59 you might as well go out in a blaze of glory right?

Imagine having that much blood on your hands? And blood squandered so selfishly for little more than favors, funds and flake?
Is there really that much difference between 60 and 65, I doubt they would reject you just because you are older than 60.

This is great news for

JohnDB -- This is your chance to improve your image, all those people accusing you of being a coward wanting others to go fight when you wouldn't, hey this will prove them wrong!

Same with you Bearerofthemorningstar, this is your chance to show the evil, wicked Russians who is Lord.
 

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I don't see half the posts in this thread....
But

The notion that there is going to be a winner of this war through a decisive military victory is absolutely absurd. There's only one time in human history this has happened and that was WW2.

But 99.999% of the time this is not how modern wars end.
North and South Korea are still fighting skirmishes on a regular basis. Georgia and Chechnya still have dissident groups that fight Russia. Even Belarus has dissident groups that are fighting. Albania still has terrorists running about causing trouble. (Bosnia/Serbia)

Most(but not all) of the fighting and killing stops when the ugliest, slimyest and most deceitful people in the world decide to stop fighting....of course I'm speaking of Politicians.

And the problem is that if they don't come to an agreement that is livable by the people....it's not going to work. But politicians don't care about people. And so the wars continue to be fought.

Gorbachev created Ukraine carefully and with great care because his wife was from Ukraine he didn't want them to be war torn like they are today.

If Russia(Putin) had left them and Moldova alone in 2014 none of this would be going on. And now Russia and the entire world is preparing for the end of Russia and especially Putin.
 

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JohnDB and Lightbearer don't let this report discourage you. So they lost all the tanks and other vehicles. All you need is a leather strap and you can use a slingshot just like lightbearer has said, you will be the modern day David bringing down the evil, vile, horrible, despicable, really, really bad Russians.

Just know there are still those who are cheering you on, we can't stand them calling you hypocrites for wanting others to go fight when you won't.
 

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I don't see half the posts in this thread....
But

The notion that there is going to be a winner of this war through a decisive military victory is absolutely absurd. There's only one time in human history this has happened and that was WW2.

But 99.999% of the time this is not how modern wars end.
North and South Korea are still fighting skirmishes on a regular basis. Georgia and Chechnya still have dissident groups that fight Russia. Even Belarus has dissident groups that are fighting. Albania still has terrorists running about causing trouble. (Bosnia/Serbia)

Most(but not all) of the fighting and killing stops when the ugliest, slimyest and most deceitful people in the world decide to stop fighting....of course I'm speaking of Politicians.

And the problem is that if they don't come to an agreement that is livable by the people....it's not going to work. But politicians don't care about people. And so the wars continue to be fought.

Gorbachev created Ukraine carefully and with great care because his wife was from Ukraine he didn't want them to be war torn like they are today.

If Russia(Putin) had left them and Moldova alone in 2014 none of this would be going on. And now Russia and the entire world is preparing for the end of Russia and especially Putin.
you really believe ww2 was a war that was won ?.

Let's start with the monstrosities Germany apparently created all by themselves.

Killing of many innocent Jews and many innocent people all around Europe.

Invasion of many countries.

At the time it was thought when this war was so called won.

If the war had not have been won places like United Kingdom France Poland Israel would all be Germany now, and the world would be ruled by Nazis.

But somehow or other this war was supposedly won and Germany still got to be be Germany under the rule of the Germans.

So here we have a war supposedly won a country like Germany defeated for wanting to make every other country Germany, but somehow Germany still remained Germany, afterwards.

Hmmm 🤔 I wonder is Germany still Germany all around the world ?
 

Fundaamental

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Maybe the word Germany should read in the devided language, germs spread by Hitler's
Befor Germany was named Germany and before Hitler was created.

Maybe the truth is Hitler's are demons and Germany is a spiritual realm that exists spreading germs
 

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Grassley Releases Bombshell FBI Doc Discussing $10MM Biden Bribe; Burisma Boss Said Hunter 'Dumber Than His Dog'

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopoliti...discussing-10mm-biden-bribe-burisma-boss-said

Plausibly, there are at least a couple of "close to home" reasons for the war in Ukraine:
-to keep a lid on the Bidenista's corrupt dealings there
-to burn down the casino to keep Hunter and the rest of the Grandpa Sniffer clan out of the slammer.

300K Ukrainians died for this? That is just madness.
 

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you really believe ww2 was a war that was won ?.

Let's start with the monstrosities Germany apparently created all by themselves.

Killing of many innocent Jews and many innocent people all around Europe.

Invasion of many countries.

At the time it was thought when this war was so called won.

If the war had not have been won places like United Kingdom France Poland Israel would all be Germany now, and the world would be ruled by Nazis.

But somehow or other this war was supposedly won and Germany still got to be be Germany under the rule of the Germans.

So here we have a war supposedly won a country like Germany defeated for wanting to make every other country Germany, but somehow Germany still remained Germany, afterwards.

Hmmm 🤔 I wonder is Germany still Germany all around the world ?
You have lost your mind....please check lost and found and elsewhere before you continue this conversation. Once you have found it then we can continue.
 

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You have lost your mind....please check lost and found and elsewhere before you continue this conversation. Once you have found it then we can continue.
seriously how many Nazi type conflicts have occured since world war 2 ?.

From everything to wars and terrorist attacks
 

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You have lost your mind....please check lost and found and elsewhere before you continue this conversation. Once you have found it then we can continue.
and while we are on this subject, the allies did not defeat the germans. that was pretty much a stalemate.

russia defeated hitler on the eastern front...
 

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seriously how many Nazi type conflicts have occured since world war 2 ?.

From everything to wars and terrorist attacks
Surviving German officers ended up as top dogs in NASA, NATO.....and a whole bunch of other agencies in the US and Europe. Some very spooky agencies too.
 

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Surviving German officers ended up as top dogs in NASA, NATO.....and a whole bunch of other agencies in the US and Europe. Some very spooky agencies too.
operation paperclip.
 

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and while we are on this subject, the allies did not defeat the germans. that was pretty much a stalemate.

russia defeated hitler on the eastern front...
I think it is a lot more accurate to say it was a joint effort.
 

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Surviving German officers ended up as top dogs in NASA, NATO.....and a whole bunch of other agencies in the US and Europe. Some very spooky agencies too.
hmmm sounds like a master plan from the begining, our governments are all Nazis I suspect
 

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and while we are on this subject, the allies did not defeat the germans. that was pretty much a stalemate.

russia defeated hitler on the eastern front...
Without the US logistic and industrial support, Europe and Asia would be part of the German Nazi empire.

Today the US gets its logistic and industrial support from China. How long will it take for the US population to learn to speak Chinese?
 
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Big news from the warfront. Praise Jesus the liquidation of Unholy Russian commanders continues both on the battlefield as well as internally. Aside from high and middle level commanders being destroyed one of the big fish, the terrorist spy Igor Girkin, spyname Strelkov has finally been arrested and caught up in the Mad Tsar Putin's purge lately. Strelkov is an old terorrist highly fundamental to the construction of the lies surrounding this war, he has a notable wrap sheet of crimes including the terrorist attack in shooting down innocent civillians from several European and Asian countries in Malaysian Airlines flight disaster the was shot down some years ago by Unholy Russia. Girkin was also instrumental in the invasion of Crimea as well as creating and organizing the fake puppet armies of Donetsk and Luhansk in order of Evil Russia to begin their more subtle invasion prior to last year. It is noted that Wicked Russia doesn't charge Girkin with any of these heinous and immoral crimes in serving Satan, but rather the cause of his purge is lately being passively critical of Putin and his support of Prigozhin during the putsch last month. Either way is great news as it is one of the biggest boyars to date, one of the principle villains that is complicit in Evil Russia starting and conducting this war, to face the punishment of God and is a clear proof of the divine nature of Jesus as he tears through the evil spiritual principality of Wicked Russia.

Some grim news however at the end. Characteristic of their satanic tendencies due to losing much key ground lately, commanders, and the Kerch Bridge again, Wicked Russia has a temper tantrum and has been mass murdering civillians in rocket attacks on Odessa. Despite the heinous atrocities of Wicked Russia taking their wrath at their own ineptitude out on the innocent, Jesus strengthens the hands of the first responders and valiant Ukrainian firefighters and rescue workers, PRAISE JESUS!
 

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Without the US logistic and industrial support, Europe and Asia would be part of the German Nazi empire.

Today the US gets its logistic and industrial support from China. How long will it take for the US population to learn to speak Chinese?
good and fair points.
 

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How long will it take for the US population to learn to speak Chinese?
with the proper motivation a few short months. All the Chinese have to do after they have boots on the ground is announce a test in a few months and all those who fail will be executed. They don't really need any Americans.
 

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Big news from the warfront. Praise Jesus the liquidation of Unholy Russian commanders continues both on the battlefield as well as internally. Aside from high and middle level commanders being destroyed one of the big fish, the terrorist spy Igor Girkin, spyname Strelkov has finally been arrested and caught up in the Mad Tsar Putin's purge lately. Strelkov is an old terorrist highly fundamental to the construction of the lies surrounding this war, he has a notable wrap sheet of crimes including the terrorist attack in shooting down innocent civillians from several European and Asian countries in Malaysian Airlines flight disaster the was shot down some years ago by Unholy Russia. Girkin was also instrumental in the invasion of Crimea as well as creating and organizing the fake puppet armies of Donetsk and Luhansk in order of Evil Russia to begin their more subtle invasion prior to last year. It is noted that Wicked Russia doesn't charge Girkin with any of these heinous and immoral crimes in serving Satan, but rather the cause of his purge is lately being passively critical of Putin and his support of Prigozhin during the putsch last month. Either way is great news as it is one of the biggest boyars to date, one of the principle villains that is complicit in Evil Russia starting and conducting this war, to face the punishment of God and is a clear proof of the divine nature of Jesus as he tears through the evil spiritual principality of Wicked Russia.

Some grim news however at the end. Characteristic of their satanic tendencies due to losing much key ground lately, commanders, and the Kerch Bridge again, Wicked Russia has a temper tantrum and has been mass murdering civillians in rocket attacks on Odessa. Despite the heinous atrocities of Wicked Russia taking their wrath at their own ineptitude out on the innocent, Jesus strengthens the hands of the first responders and valiant Ukrainian firefighters and rescue workers, PRAISE JESUS!
Strelkov was the online speaker for the military sentiments....
Which is yet ANOTHER problem for Putin. All those "Z" painted on military vehicles and patches on Russian uniforms are basically Igor's fan base. Just about every Russian soldier (even Wagner Group mercenaries) have a patch with a "Z" on it.

Totalitarian regimes (like Russia has become) must have the support of the military to keep in power. The second the dictator loses control over the military its over.

Telegram has exploded and continues to be in outrage over this news.

After Prigozhin's rebellion....how much longer until some Russian forces leave Ukraine to deal with the leadership at home?