Ukraine the bad guy?

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cv5

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Xi will send in his troops and that will be the end of it.
Show me on a map where exactly these large Chinese military bases are stationed in countries around the world, massing troops preparing for an invasion. Any invasion.

As for Taiwan, word has it that the pro-Beijing party should prevail in the next election. So much for that much sought-after military misadventure.
 

Fundaamental

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How about getting real with the understanding of human nature? The world you wish for does not exist. Go tell your idea to Putin, Xi. Kim, Hamas, Hezbollah, or the other instigators of violence. Either you defend yourself and resist or you become a subject of an antichrist dictatorship. There is no other choice. There never has been. There is always some antichrist dictator ready to attack at any sign of weakness. Before there were guns or swords, they used sharpened rocks.

Would you put on a uniform if the alternative was death or enslavement? Turning the other cheek does not mean that we have no right to defend ourselves against agression. After all, Americans arm themselves to the teeth in the vain hope that they will have an excuse to declare war on the government of the day.

Your day may well come. Modern youth are so pathetically weak, mentally unstable, drug addicted or physically incapable that few would be able to fight anyway. Xi will send in his troops and that will be the end of it. There will be no more war, but is that the kind of peace you want?
sadly I feel you should be holding your UK government in the same league as Putin sorry.
I'm not getting pulled into the better player card when it comes to leaders.
I will when it comes to soldiers tho.
Really how do you feel about the poor athletes of Russia or the tennis players of Russia or the football players of Russia being prevented from competing in sporting events because of Putin's choice.
Then there's all the sanctions on Russia driving the costs up for russian civilians who love there Ukrainian friends.
The russian people are now on the highest interest rates for there loans and mortgages any where else in the world.
That is criminal friend.
Europe America UK are driving up poverty,
So is Russia by cutting of there gas supply to Europe and making some of the world's largest nuclear power plants redundant.

All four sides are bumping up poverty for Satan.
Whilst us the civilians accept there plans

Surely you can see that there all working for satan
 

cv5

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sadly I feel you should be holding your UK government in the same league as Putin sorry.
I'm not getting pulled into the better player card when it comes to leaders.
I will when it comes to soldiers tho.
Really how do you feel about the poor athletes of Russia or the tennis players of Russia or the football players of Russia being prevented from competing in sporting events because of Putin's choice.
Then there's all the sanctions on Russia driving the costs up for russian civilians who love there Ukrainian friends.
The russian people are now on the highest interest rates for there loans and mortgages any where else in the world.
That is criminal friend.
Europe America UK are driving up poverty,
So is Russia by cutting of there gas supply to Europe and making some of the world's largest nuclear power plants redundant.

All four sides are bumping up poverty for Satan.
Whilst us the civilians accept there plans

Surely you can see that there all working for satan
I wonder if @Gideon300 considers the loathsome Tony Blair to be an heroic figure?
And the heroic Julian Assange an arch-villain?
 

Fundaamental

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I wonder if @Gideon300 considers the loathsome Tony Blair to be an heroic figure?
And the heroic Julian Assange an arch-villain?
Yeah I know all about tony Blair the witch project.
He was no different to David Cameron tho who got voted out in parliament for going to war against Syria.
But to be honest that was just another card to show Britain don't go to war for the fun of it.
At the time Britain was under flack for selling weapons to terrorists.
Cameron and his witches said I know let's start a debate on whether we should go to war with Syria and all vote no.
This will convince are soldiers and the people we are worthy.
This will also give opportunity to let our other witch friend Tony Blair be forgotten about.

There all fascists with acute social disorders.
 

Fundaamental

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But when I think about it also on the subject of poverty.
Poverty to me is the number one reason that breeds wars.
It's deliberately done by our governments.
When David Cameron ordered a debate on whether we should leave Europe, and to let the public decide,

The public where just as naive then.

None of them realised when they where tricked into voting yes it would bump up poverty.

Yeah and since then it's also bumped up tensions for many people in all sorts of ways right across Europe.

The poverty card is played in every war.

The poverty and tensions have become so strained right across the world that's inevitable there's a huge war coming somewhere soon.

Theres been riots all around the world since covid.

But it beggars belief two countries would go to war right after a world wide pandemic. Go figure.
 

cv5

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But when I think about it also on the subject of poverty.
Poverty to me is the number one reason that breeds wars.
It's deliberately done by our governments.
When David Cameron ordered a debate on whether we should leave Europe, and to let the public decide,

The public where just as naive then.

None of them realised when they where tricked into voting yes it would bump up poverty.

Yeah and since then it's also bumped up tensions for many people in all sorts of ways right across Europe.

The poverty card is played in every war.

The poverty and tensions have become so strained right across the world that's inevitable there's a huge war coming somewhere soon.

Theres been riots all around the world since covid.

But it beggars belief two countries would go to war right after a world wide pandemic. Go figure.
Poverty = loss of economic freedom for the citizens and more power for the government.
A banana republic welfare state is what they are planning. This is happening in real time.

Totalitarian control over all means of production, assets, commodities and PEOPLES is the ultimate goal.
 

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A reporter in Russia was tried and convicted of Anti-Government propaganda because she was telling the truth about the Russian occupation in Ukraine. These are her last words before she was sentenced to a Gulag

 

cv5

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A reporter in Russia was tried and convicted of Anti-Government propaganda because she was telling the truth about the Russian occupation in Ukraine. These are her last words before she was sentenced to a Gulag

Same goes for the Ukrainian journalists. Run out, threatened and/or silenced.
 

cv5

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Empty claims without proof.
Ukraine a chaste righteous virgin not prone to sharing a flea-bitten bed with every national and international mafia gangsta willing to cough up a bribe?

Get outta here.
 

JohnDB

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Ukraine a chaste righteous virgin not prone to sharing a flea-bitten bed with every national and international mafia gangsta willing to cough up a bribe?

Get outta here.
Your bluff has been called. You make a lot of claims but there's no proof whatsoever for them. I've provided legitimate proof after proof of my claims.....all you got is fish smelling hot air.
 

Fundaamental

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A reporter in Russia was tried and convicted of Anti-Government propaganda because she was telling the truth about the Russian occupation in Ukraine. These are her last words before she was sentenced to a Gulag

No doubt this is so sad.
But some nation has to be seen as holding the dictator card in this game of poker,

It's called the fear card and the want for revenge card for social injustice to this lady.
The lady is just a 2 of clubs being used by Russia to suck people into to believing there is a need for war.

There will be more 2 of clubs like her used by Russia.
Lets think on here,

Russia controls it's social media so there was no need for this to be shown publicly.

It Just another trump card from Russia saying mess with us not.

Here comes the the freedom fighters retaliation card.
 

JohnDB

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No doubt this is so sad.
But some nation has to be seen as holding the dictator card in this game of poker,

It's called the fear card and the want for revenge card for social injustice to this lady.
The lady is just a 2 of clubs being used by Russia to suck people into to believing there is a need for war.

There will be more 2 of clubs like her used by Russia.
Lets think on here,

Russia controls it's social media so there was no need for this to be shown publicly.

It Just another trump card from Russia saying mess with us not.

Here comes the the freedom fighters retaliation card.
Just so we are clear....
Your posts on this forum are highly illegal in Russia or its occupied territories. You would face her same fate but less publicly. She is MSM for Russia....a highly public figure.
I'm not saying that what is happening to her is right....far from it.

Listen to the substance of what she says.

That's the most telling of everything you need to know.
 

Fundaamental

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No doubt this is so sad.
But some nation has to be seen as holding the dictator card in this game of poker,

It's called the fear card and the want for revenge card for social injustice to this lady.
The lady is just a 2 of clubs being used by Russia to suck people into to believing there is a need for war.

There will be more 2 of clubs like her used by Russia.
Lets think on here,

Russia controls it's social media so there was no need for this to be shown publicly.

It Just another trump card from Russia saying mess with us not.

Here comes the the freedom fighters retaliation card.
it doesn't matter how public a figure she is, this would not be the reason it was allowed to be publicly broadcast.

Russia control the social media and there not allowed to broadcast anything about the Kremlin unless it's authorised.

She may have even been payed a quite hefty lump sum of money.

Or she was just used by the Kremlin.

Not to made an example out of as some would think, because the Kremlin don't Allow there country to be spoken about that way on social media.

It would make more sense to me she was used and allowed to have her freedom speech to promote more war.

The fact she was trembling could be they turned the air conditioning on cold.
 

JohnDB

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it doesn't matter how public a figure she is, this would not be the reason it was allowed to be publicly broadcast.

Russia control the social media and there not allowed to broadcast anything about the Kremlin unless it's authorised.

She may have even been payed a quite hefty lump sum of money.

Or she was just used by the Kremlin.

Not to made an example out of as some would think, because the Kremlin don't Allow there country to be spoken about that way on social media.

It would make more sense to me she was used and allowed to have her freedom speech to promote more war.

The fact she was trembling could be they turned the air conditioning on cold.
She isn't a television personality....she is a news reporter that writes. That's why her voice was cracking and her hands shaking. LISTENING is more important than speaking. God gave you TWO ears and only one mouth....as a sign to listen twice as much as you talk. Listen to the substance of what she is saying....she is Russian....been Russian since birth. She has been anti-war since 2014 and Russia first invaded Ukraine. CONTEXT IS KING.

She is going to jail because she told the truth. There are other video bloggers and news reporters that are living in exile for the exact same reasons. She is not alone in fearing Putin's government.
 

cv5

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Just so we are clear....
Your posts on this forum are highly illegal in Russia or its occupied territories. You would face her same fate but less publicly. She is MSM for Russia....a highly public figure.
I'm not saying that what is happening to her is right....far from it.

Listen to the substance of what she says.

That's the most telling of everything you need to know.
AT LEAST 2 million men have fled Ukraine.

Because it is a beacon of freedom and human rights? A place where you can live without the threat of fearful retribution and conscription by brutal and corrupt authorities?

Or because it isn't?
 

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Same goes for the Ukrainian journalists. Run out, threatened and/or silenced.
At least in the US we still have journalists like Tucker Carlson that can speak the truth.
 

Fundaamental

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She isn't a television personality....she is a news reporter that writes. That's why her voice was cracking and her hands shaking. LISTENING is more important than speaking. God gave you TWO ears and only one mouth....as a sign to listen twice as much as you talk. Listen to the substance of what she is saying....she is Russian....been Russian since birth. She has been anti-war since 2014 and Russia first invaded Ukraine. CONTEXT IS KING.

She is going to jail because she told the truth. There are other video bloggers and news reporters that are living in exile for the exact same reasons. She is not alone in fearing Putin's government.
I ment she was made a high profile public figure by the social media.

Its the famous brave heart speech You know William wallace, to appeal to people of honour to draw there swords, that's all it is.

The card being played was the woman's card, a brave women standing alone to speak out against her country,

Its like the Winston Churchill speech, you know,
we will fight them in the valleys and in the hills and we will never surrender.

Zalenska of Ukraine used the same speech against Russia. Absolute mad man.
All the people clapped that one.

Then all the fascists of NATO used the same speech.

Then just to boost the war some more Putin sent his braveheart news reporter in,
the russian hard done by news reporter with a brave heart

Then substance was added to the braveheart speech.
 

JohnDB

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I ment she was made a high profile public figure by the social media.

Its the famous brave heart speech You know William wallace, to appeal to people of honour to draw there swords, that's all it is.

The card being played was the woman's card, a brave women standing alone to speak out against her country,

Its like the Winston Churchill speech, you know,
we will fight them in the valleys and in the hills and we will never surrender.

Zalenska of Ukraine used the same speech against Russia. Absolute mad man.
All the people clapped that one.

Then all the fascists of NATO used the same speech.

Then just to boost the war some more Putin sent his braveheart news reporter in,
the russian hard done by news reporter with a brave heart

Then substance was added to the braveheart speech.
Ummm.....I'm surprised you didn't recognize it better. She is copying Stephan....the first martyr in the book of Acts.