Ukraine the bad guy?

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cv5

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1)This war is costing Russia a LOT of money and economic prosperity.
2) This war is also costing Putin political capital.
1) Ukraine does not have a functioning economy....at all. It is a charity basket case.
2) Debatable. Though it seems that the military brass is dodgy.
 

ZNP

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ZNP

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Take note of the fact that this "breakout" is occurring in the lowlands. Surrounded by.....uplands with "line of sight".
Very risky, very desperate on the part of the AFU IMO.
Not only so, but is the border with Belarus guarded? Are they opening themselves to attack?
 
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It seems the war is stalemated; Putin has occupied the pro-Russian areas and has now dug in, apparently with no further territorial ambitions.
Zelensky is therefore wasting his time knocking his head against the fortified line because in a war of attrition he'll run out of troops long before the much bigger Russian army does-

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Nope. ...this stalemate is not happening...Ukraine keeps gaining ground albeit slowly.
Come up with something else...your point is moot.

You'd better argue with military analysts mate who say the same thing as me, for example here's a bit from Max Hastings article in The Times earlier this year..:)-

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JohnDB

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You'd better argue with military analysts mate who say the same thing as me, for example here's a bit from Max Hastings article in The Times earlier this year..:)-

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You do seem to be quoting the approved Russian propaganda....like almost verbatim...just like The Times article is.

The truth is not in the MSM....it's in the quiet corners like ISW or other highly specialized SM accounts.
 

ZNP

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If this is what winning looks like I'd hate to see what losing looks like.

 
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PRAISE JESUS the Holy Russian Revolution picks up major steam DEEP inside of Wicked Russia. All over Wicked Russia sabotage and unrest breaks out over Wicked Putin's second draft within one year. A major conflict erupts in Buryati, deep inside central Russia. On top of this some other good news as Wicked Russian special forces attempt to land near Odessa they are blown out of the water quite literally. The Summer counteroffensive has been a great success all thanks to Jesus and worn out Wicked Russia's reserves and strained their lines. We are seeing that Valiant Ukraine is well positioned to repeat the Autumn Harvest like last year after Wicked Russia's defenses break. Strong is our God, PRAISE JESUS!

 

ThyKingdomComeSoon

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1) Ukraine does not have a functioning economy....at all. It is a charity basket case.
2) Debatable. Though it seems that the military brass is dodgy.
History shows than when the economy is bad the wars ramp up.. The top governments make huge profits. Since the economy in the world is super bad by design , war is inevitable, the world governments need to GRAB moneys, they want their loot. They will push their NWO agenda, this is all planned, trilateral commission, club of Rome Bildebers, Davos WEF meetings in which the trillionaires of the planet participate and say to the participating countries what they have to do and other satanic NWO organizations such as the WHO , but lets not forger the IMF and the living cadavers ruling over this organization, worls war is inevitable and not yet announced but coming maybe just before Christmas as a gift for the populace that they despise.

All the world govermnents that matter have been infiltrated , the satanic elites are ready to execute the final countdown.
 

cv5

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Get this war over with and end the killing. Period. Now.

Cracks Appear In US Deep State As Insiders Warn Negotiations With Russia The Only Way Out: "Everyone Loses"

RAND expert: "This is a five-alarm fire," he said. "Am I supposed to walk past the house? Because, as bad as it’s been, it could get much, much worse."
 

cv5

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Wow. A sane person. Not bloodthirsty, not taking sides. For a change.

Musk on disallowing the Ukrainians attack the Russian fleet in Crimea:

“Starlink was not meant to be involved in wars. It was so people can watch Netflix and chill and get online for school and do good peaceful things, not drone strikes.”
 

ZNP

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Wow. A sane person. Not bloodthirsty, not taking sides. For a change.

Musk on disallowing the Ukrainians attack the Russian fleet in Crimea:

“Starlink was not meant to be involved in wars. It was so people can watch Netflix and chill and get online for school and do good peaceful things, not drone strikes.”
He will be killed for this.
 

JohnDB

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Let's start with a simple task...

Google "Russian Talking Points" and let's see who is quoting them.

Then let's have a truth test....

When exactly did Russia begin its unofficial invasion of Ukraine?
Then when did Russia begin a military invasion of Ukraine?
When did Russia try to completely invade Ukraine?