To all of you non flat earthers.
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Perhaps sailing off the edge of the earth has more appeal that going to Mars.
Anyhow, since the Bible clearly mentions the sundial of Ahaz (2 kings 20:11; Isa 38:8 see NKJV), and it could not function if the earth were flat, that automatically refutes a flat earth.
"When the earth rotates about its axis, the sun appears to “move” across the sky, causing objects to cast shadows. A sundial contains a gnomon, or a thin rod, that casts a shadow onto a platform etched with different times. As the sun changes relative positions over the course of a day, the rod’s shadows change as well, thus reflecting the change in time. "
https://www.yalescientific.org/2008/11/how-do-sundials-work/
Anyhow, since the Bible clearly mentions the sundial of Ahaz (2 kings 20:11; Isa 38:8 see NKJV), and it could not function if the earth were flat, that automatically refutes a flat earth.
"When the earth rotates about its axis, the sun appears to “move” across the sky, causing objects to cast shadows. A sundial contains a gnomon, or a thin rod, that casts a shadow onto a platform etched with different times. As the sun changes relative positions over the course of a day, the rod’s shadows change as well, thus reflecting the change in time. "
https://www.yalescientific.org/2008/11/how-do-sundials-work/
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Yeah see the problem I have with this post or rather one of them is that the science doesn't add up and I have not seen any scripture from you showing otherwise.
I am a firm believer in both Scripture and science God created all things including science and the way the universe works and every flat earther that I have seen or spoken to to can show pictures of the earth being flat but they are poorly made photo shops any verse they quote or also very poor in proving their belief. Now maybe I would be more inclined to listen if every flat earth believer I met wasn't so unable to be reasoned with, making claims with little to no evidence and yet being so stubborn and unwilling to listen or really back up their claims.
For instance one thing I have constantly asked them and mind you this just one aspect of science that you can see with the naked eye at least the effects of it and that is mass and gravity.
t the sun has a massive gravitational pull but the mass of the earth if it was flat would be pulled into the sun because it would lack the mass to be able to hold it's place and the night sky changes the vision of constelations and the phases of the moon because the earth rotates which you need mass and a sphere to be able to do without mass if we rotated then we would spin off into the deep darkness of space if we didn't rotate then we wouldn't see different phases of the moon or different constelations so if the earth is indeed flat why are not pulled into the sun? why do we have a place in the gravitational pull in the solar system?
Unless you completely disregard science you cannot answer these things and if you don't believe in science then you must not believe God created all things and set the stars into place for times and seasons which by your own admission would mean you don't believe in the word of God
I am a firm believer in both Scripture and science God created all things including science and the way the universe works and every flat earther that I have seen or spoken to to can show pictures of the earth being flat but they are poorly made photo shops any verse they quote or also very poor in proving their belief. Now maybe I would be more inclined to listen if every flat earth believer I met wasn't so unable to be reasoned with, making claims with little to no evidence and yet being so stubborn and unwilling to listen or really back up their claims.
For instance one thing I have constantly asked them and mind you this just one aspect of science that you can see with the naked eye at least the effects of it and that is mass and gravity.
t the sun has a massive gravitational pull but the mass of the earth if it was flat would be pulled into the sun because it would lack the mass to be able to hold it's place and the night sky changes the vision of constelations and the phases of the moon because the earth rotates which you need mass and a sphere to be able to do without mass if we rotated then we would spin off into the deep darkness of space if we didn't rotate then we wouldn't see different phases of the moon or different constelations so if the earth is indeed flat why are not pulled into the sun? why do we have a place in the gravitational pull in the solar system?
Unless you completely disregard science you cannot answer these things and if you don't believe in science then you must not believe God created all things and set the stars into place for times and seasons which by your own admission would mean you don't believe in the word of God
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East is clockwise, West is widdershins, South rimwise and North hubward. Remember, Flat Earth is an observation. Ball Earth is a theory. The theory needs proof before we should consider denying what our senses tell us.
Why doesn't God say He created a Ball Earth? Why doesn't the bible mention that God spun the Earth around the sun on Day 4? Why did Joshua ask that God stop the sun, if he really meant stop the Earth? If Joshua got it wrong, why didn't the biblical narrator (inspired by God, who would know) correct him, if God really stopped the Earth from spinning? In Isaiah, why does Isaiah refer to the "circle of the Earth" rather than the "ball of the Earth", if Earth is more a ball than a circle? Why, why, why? Believing in a ball-Earth creates many unanswered questions with the scriptures.
Why doesn't God say He created a Ball Earth? Why doesn't the bible mention that God spun the Earth around the sun on Day 4? Why did Joshua ask that God stop the sun, if he really meant stop the Earth? If Joshua got it wrong, why didn't the biblical narrator (inspired by God, who would know) correct him, if God really stopped the Earth from spinning? In Isaiah, why does Isaiah refer to the "circle of the Earth" rather than the "ball of the Earth", if Earth is more a ball than a circle? Why, why, why? Believing in a ball-Earth creates many unanswered questions with the scriptures.
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Why indeed? Even more difficult on a ball-Earth, do you not think? At least on a flat Earth, there would be 4 corners if it were contained within some sort of rectangular shape. On a ball-Earth, there would be at least 8 corners for any containing cube.
My understanding is that in this case, the word "corners" is a mistranslation, although I am happy to debate if you think this argument is only invoked to give preference to a flat Earth shape over a ball-Earth shape.
My understanding is that in this case, the word "corners" is a mistranslation, although I am happy to debate if you think this argument is only invoked to give preference to a flat Earth shape over a ball-Earth shape.
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Be honest, is ISS an fake? Ore is flying this Station around the earth? How it comes that a plane which is flying from London east to reach india. And then in the same direction to the eastcost of USA and then in the same direction accross the country to the westcost
and from there to London? This is proofable. And not possible if the earth is flat.
All the Planet we see are in the sky are rund ore flat? It makes no sense that all Planet are rund like a Ball, except the earth.
Also you have to consider that not all scripture is literal to understand.
and from there to London? This is proofable. And not possible if the earth is flat.
All the Planet we see are in the sky are rund ore flat? It makes no sense that all Planet are rund like a Ball, except the earth.
Also you have to consider that not all scripture is literal to understand.
