The UN`s Beast Statue.

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SomeDisciple

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https://hyperallergic.com/686904/dia-de-los-muertos-comes-to-nyc-mexican-folk-art/

Apparently this was initially part of a Dia De Los Muertos celebration event. But, now they are calling it "Gaurdian of international Peace and Security" so, obviously it's purpose there has changed, or was hidden from the beginning.

I know that I have seen this before... like 15 years ago. Right now, I'm trying to look up the history of sculptures outside the UN, but I know that this has happened before.
 

Marilyn

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Someone should tell the Chinese that they are jumping the gun! :)
Hi tanakh,

Actually Japan, (part of the Kings of the East) did try to `jump the gun,` way back in WW2. Here is a chapter from my uncle`s book, (Fires before the Dawn.)

THE KINGS OF THE EAST

`They gathered the Kings together to a place that is called Armageddon.`(Rev. 16: 16)


One of the most significant & overwhelming responses to this edict will emanate from a vast & populous territory. One of which there is no record of previous involvement in end-times events.

`The great river Euphrates dried up, to prepare the way for the Kings of the East.` (Rev. 16: 12)

This refers obviously to a power-bloc far removed geographically from previous world events. Kings of the `Sunrising` is a closer literal translation. It is the historical designation of nationalities populating the orient. Countries which for centuries have remained isolated from the rest of the world. `Kings of the East` is thus a synonym of the Orient & includes all the principalities of that area.

Japan was the catalyst which shattered any illusion the Western Nations might have entertained regarding the militaristic potential & ambitions of this region. They charted a course for conquest & domination during World War 2 which subjugated a large area of Asia & Oceania.

Direction Right – Timing Wrong

Their expressed ambition & purpose was even to expand beyond the Orient, & to influence the course of the war in the Middle East. The official History of the Royal Australian Navy record:-

`The German Ambassador in Tokyo telegraphed his Foreign Minister Ribbentrop the result of an interview he had with Japanese Foreign Minister, Togo. Togo advised him, inter alia, that Japanese Naval operations in the Indian Ocean would correspond with the German desire for a Japanese advance toward the Middle East.

Vice-Admiral Nagumo (who led the attack on Pearl Harbour) sailed into the Indian Ocean with a powerful striking force. The British Eastern Fleet, with vastly inferior numbers & gun-power, were ordered to retire to Kilindini, in East Africa. Nothing stood between the Japanese Fleet & the Middle East. However, planes from their aircraft-carriers had bombed Ceylon twice, enroute. So many aircraft had been shot down that Nagumo had to return to Japan for replenishment of aircraft & pilots.


Re-equipped they were ready to continue westward into the Indian Ocean towards a possible link with the Western Axis Powers in the Middle East.

For some inexplicable reason, the Japanese Imperial headquarters suddenly changed their plan of operations. They decided to thrust eastwards & capture Port Moresby, Midway, & Hawaii, in that order.`


The allied Navy, as a result of gaining possession of the Japanese code-secrets, knew the enemy plans, intercepted & defeated them at the battle of the Coral Sea.

Britain was able to reinforce its Eastern Fleet & effectively to control the Indian Ocean. Japan went on to overwhelming defeat.

God had set the `Appointed Time.` This was not the moment for the Kings of the East to come to the Middle East. Japan was decades ahead of God`s schedule!


Red Dragon Take Over

Subsequent upon the defeat of Japan, Communist China emerged as the dominant force in the orient. China certainly has an enormous population, & has made remarkable progress in the production of weapons of war. However, what is predicted and envisaged in Revelation is the mobilization of a giant confederacy of all the oriental countries. China, of course, will take precedence by virtue of their immense man-power. However, their indigenous numerical strength will be augmented by their adjacent ethnological allies.

The army of the Kings of the East will be the largest ever statistically conceived. Two hundred million troops on the road to Armageddon. Imagine the amazement of the Apostle John. At that time the whole population of the entire world barely reached that figure. By way of comparison, during World War 2, fifty million was the maximum number engaged in all armies, both allied and enemy, combined.

In this context a two hundred million combat force certainly presents an incredible numerical concept. However, with the current population explosion in the Orient, for the first time in history, such a predicted number is not only conceivable but actually available. One has only to walk through the streets of any Chinese town; or travel in a Chinese tram, to encounter an amazing number of armed uniformed troops.

Make no mistake:-

"God has prepared that exact number specifically for this very hour, and day, and month, and year." (Rev. 9:15-16)

The Appointed Time is set!
 

tanakh

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Hi tanakh,

Actually Japan, (part of the Kings of the East) did try to `jump the gun,` way back in WW2. Here is a chapter from my uncle`s book, (Fires before the Dawn.)

THE KINGS OF THE EAST

`They gathered the Kings together to a place that is called Armageddon.`(Rev. 16: 16)


One of the most significant & overwhelming responses to this edict will emanate from a vast & populous territory. One of which there is no record of previous involvement in end-times events.

`The great river Euphrates dried up, to prepare the way for the Kings of the East.` (Rev. 16: 12)

This refers obviously to a power-bloc far removed geographically from previous world events. Kings of the `Sunrising` is a closer literal translation. It is the historical designation of nationalities populating the orient. Countries which for centuries have remained isolated from the rest of the world. `Kings of the East` is thus a synonym of the Orient & includes all the principalities of that area.

Japan was the catalyst which shattered any illusion the Western Nations might have entertained regarding the militaristic potential & ambitions of this region. They charted a course for conquest & domination during World War 2 which subjugated a large area of Asia & Oceania.

Direction Right – Timing Wrong

Their expressed ambition & purpose was even to expand beyond the Orient, & to influence the course of the war in the Middle East. The official History of the Royal Australian Navy record:-

`The German Ambassador in Tokyo telegraphed his Foreign Minister Ribbentrop the result of an interview he had with Japanese Foreign Minister, Togo. Togo advised him, inter alia, that Japanese Naval operations in the Indian Ocean would correspond with the German desire for a Japanese advance toward the Middle East.

Vice-Admiral Nagumo (who led the attack on Pearl Harbour) sailed into the Indian Ocean with a powerful striking force. The British Eastern Fleet, with vastly inferior numbers & gun-power, were ordered to retire to Kilindini, in East Africa. Nothing stood between the Japanese Fleet & the Middle East. However, planes from their aircraft-carriers had bombed Ceylon twice, enroute. So many aircraft had been shot down that Nagumo had to return to Japan for replenishment of aircraft & pilots.


Re-equipped they were ready to continue westward into the Indian Ocean towards a possible link with the Western Axis Powers in the Middle East.

For some inexplicable reason, the Japanese Imperial headquarters suddenly changed their plan of operations. They decided to thrust eastwards & capture Port Moresby, Midway, & Hawaii, in that order.`


The allied Navy, as a result of gaining possession of the Japanese code-secrets, knew the enemy plans, intercepted & defeated them at the battle of the Coral Sea.

Britain was able to reinforce its Eastern Fleet & effectively to control the Indian Ocean. Japan went on to overwhelming defeat.

God had set the `Appointed Time.` This was not the moment for the Kings of the East to come to the Middle East. Japan was decades ahead of God`s schedule!


Red Dragon Take Over

Subsequent upon the defeat of Japan, Communist China emerged as the dominant force in the orient. China certainly has an enormous population, & has made remarkable progress in the production of weapons of war. However, what is predicted and envisaged in Revelation is the mobilization of a giant confederacy of all the oriental countries. China, of course, will take precedence by virtue of their immense man-power. However, their indigenous numerical strength will be augmented by their adjacent ethnological allies.

The army of the Kings of the East will be the largest ever statistically conceived. Two hundred million troops on the road to Armageddon. Imagine the amazement of the Apostle John. At that time the whole population of the entire world barely reached that figure. By way of comparison, during World War 2, fifty million was the maximum number engaged in all armies, both allied and enemy, combined.

In this context a two hundred million combat force certainly presents an incredible numerical concept. However, with the current population explosion in the Orient, for the first time in history, such a predicted number is not only conceivable but actually available. One has only to walk through the streets of any Chinese town; or travel in a Chinese tram, to encounter an amazing number of armed uniformed troops.

Make no mistake:-

"God has prepared that exact number specifically for this very hour, and day, and month, and year." (Rev. 9:15-16)

The Appointed Time is set!
Very interesting. From our point of view the Japanese appear to have got the timing wrong
but God's timing is very different from ours. He knows the end from the beginning.
 

SomeDisciple

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Regardless of what these statues are, or are not, the coincidences are creepy.
-Jacobo (Jacob/Israel) y Maria (Mary) - One being the literal woman the other being a prophetic woman that gives birth to Jesus.
-Their son (who is the main designer) is named Ricardo (Powerful/strong King). Granted, these are common names, but still.
-Their logo that you can make 6's out of
- The beast imagery
- The IDOLS present at the celebration where these were revealed.
Flanking the entrance to the famous skyscraper at 30 Rockefeller Plaza are two catrinas, skeleton figures representing the Aztec goddess Mictecacihuatl (an infant-sacrificing death goddess, btw.)

Rockefeller Center itself has a partial inscription of of IS 33 above the entrance Wisdom and knowledge shall be the stability of thy times... of course they leave out the important part and strength of salvation: the fear of the Lord is his treasure.

The second statue after our beast, (which the artist calls an "eagle" is of a Cockatrice- but referred to as a "Dragon" in this article. The Cockatrice (in the KJV anyway) in IS and JER prophecies are a bad, bad, judgement. When you look at the DEATH/FALSE-PEACE/COCKATRICE CARVED IMAGES and the TIME OF YEAR this whole celebration gives off some serious Jer 8 vibes.
“We wanted to give them these guides to look over them, to let them know they are not alone. That’s why we included designs related to netting or frontiers, to reference the [Mexico-US] border,” he added, pointing to the dragon’s legs, which are decorated in a gray fence-like pattern. "
That same fence like pattern is also on the underside of the "Jaguar' beast statue. (a Jaguar is virtually a leopard from central America instead of Africa/Asia- John the Revelator would think a Jaguar was "like a leopard").
“When you think of the alebrijes, you think of the Zapotec cultures, which said before they existed in their physical form, they represented the nagual, the spirit inside of us, the purpose of life"
So, these beasts represent the spirit that is inside of them...? Isn't that nice!?!?
he continued. “By being here today with the alebrijes, we confirm our purpose.”
That's just lovely, isn't it?

I take it the "dragon" remained in Rockefeller Square, and the "Jaguar" Leopard went to the UN- because the "dragon gave to the leopard his power and his seat and his great authority". They have got to be messing with Christians at this point.

Do I think this is the real "image of the Beast"? No. Should the symbolism be a red flag? Uh, yeah probably.
 

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Hi RA,

I`m also not into hysteria, but merely pointing out Satan`s influence over the world system. The connections to those in power and the similar symbols in God`s world to the final Global Government are interesting. And `interesting` is all I said, though of course others may get `hysterical.`

The `Peace and Security,` (Security and safety are the same word in the Greek) mandate of the UN is also interesting. Now I don`t believe the UN is the beast but part of the False Prophet`s two Offices - Economic and Religious.

Remember the world religion, (religious aspect of Babylon) will get done away with, but the false prophet is still there. It is the economic side that we need to follow, (follow the money trail) if we want to see where that leads.

Any more discussion on those thoughts?
Well, I can agree that the UN's controlled by Satan.
 

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Very interesting. From our point of view the Japanese appear to have got the timing wrong
but God's timing is very different from ours. He knows the end from the beginning.
No, I see WWI, the Great Depression, WWII, the Holocaust, the Atomic bomb and then the Nuremberg trials as a preview of the last 7 years of this age.

During the Holocaust one third of all Jews on earth died as a result during the tribulation one third of all people will die. Japan attacked Pearl Harbor because they needed oil, this will be the same reason the Kings from the sunrising will attack the middle east. Hitler is a prefigure of the AntiChrist. The final solution is a prefigure to their solution for "climate change" which is code for their unsustainable pillage of the Earth.

As a result of all this Israel was returned to the land in 1948, likewise as a result of the 70th week it will usher in the millenial kingdom.

Spoiler alert -- the US dropped atomic bombs on other countries, those atomic bombs will be dropped on them at the end of the age.
 

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“Come up Here!”

Jesus has a mystery and says "the seven lampstands are the seven churches"
Rev 1:20 “As for the mystery of the seven stars which you saw in My right hand, and the seven golden lampstands: the seven stars are the angels of the seven churches, and the seven lampstands are the seven churches

Jesus says He "walks among the seven golden lamp stands"

Rev 2:1“To the angel of the church in Ephesus write: The One who holds the seven stars in His right hand, the One who walks among the seven golden lampstands, says this:

Now Jesus is saying He "has the Seven Spirits of God". We see where they come from and where they go.

Rev 3:1 “To the angel of the church in Sardis write: He who has the seven Spirits of God and the seven stars, says this: ‘I know your deeds, that you have a name that you are alive, but you are dead.

There is a door open in heaven and a Voice like a trumpet "Says Come Up Here"
"After These Things"


Rev 4:1 After these things I looked, and behold, a door open in heaven, and the first voice which I had heard, like the sound of a trumpet speaking with me, said, "Come up here, and I will show you what must take place after these things.

After a reception of lightning and thunder Seven Lamps of Fire appear in front of the throne; and look what it says they are. Now the lamps that were on earth are before the throne, and do you remember what Jesus said the lamps were: that's right He said they were the churches; But now they are being called the Seven Spirits of God. And it just keeps getting better.

Rev 4:5 Out from the throne come flashes of lightning and sounds and peals of thunder. And there were seven lamps of fire burning before the throne, which are the seven Spirits of God

Let's do a little review: Jesus said that the seven golden lamps on earth are the churches. Then after a voice like the sound of trumpet says come up here, and after a reception of lightning and thunder coming out from the throne: now the seven lamps are in heaven, but now they are being called the Seven Spirit of God. So you can look at the previous verse to see that it's all true. But move forward is the greatest thing we could ever see. So now we know the Seven Spirits of God are the Seven Churches.

Rev 5:6 And I saw between the throne (with the four living creatures) and the elders a Lamb standing, as if it had been slain, having seven horns and seven eyes, which are the seven Spirits of God, that were sent out into all the earth.

So there we have it. The greatest thing one could ever imagine: Right there is the Head of the
Lamb are Seven Eyes that are the Seven Spirits of God that were sent to ALL THE EARTH.
So We are on The Throne Just As Jesus Promised We would be. Therefore, We are Raptured off of the Earth and seated on Our throne, Immediately before all the Murder and Mayhem begins.

Below is the Promise.

Rev 3:21-22 ‘He who overcomes, I will grant to Him to sit down with Me on My throne, just as I also overcame and sat down with My Father on His throne.

Dan 7:13“I kept looking in the night visions, And behold, One like a Son of Man was coming on the clouds of heaven. And He came up to be presented before the Ancient of Days.

People ask where the Rapture is in the old Testament. It's in the Little Book/Daniel where we see many aspects of Revelations.

Rev 3:22 ‘He who has an ear, let him hear what the Spirit is saying to the churches.’”
 

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I was just recently reading an article about this beast statue.

https://newsrescue.com/un-puts-up-g...es-beast-described-in-the-book-of-revelation/

So the statue is called “The Guardian of International Peace and Security” and it's been painted in LGBT colors?

In 1 Thessalonians 5:3, we read - While people are saying, “There is peace and security,” then sudden destruction will come upon them as labor pains come upon a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.
 
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Hi Ruby,

Macron may very well become President of Europe however that is not the power base of the A/C but of the False Prophet.
Hi Marilyn,

Where is the power base then and who would be your guess as to whom it may be?
I realise we are all just guessing but it is interesting to see who everyone's guess is.
 

ResidentAlien

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I was just recently reading an article about this beast statue.

https://newsrescue.com/un-puts-up-g...es-beast-described-in-the-book-of-revelation/

So the statue is called “The Guardian of International Peace and Security” and it's been painted in LGBT colors?

In 1 Thessalonians 5:3, we read - While people are saying, “There is peace and security,” then sudden destruction will come upon them as labor pains come upon a pregnant woman, and they will not escape.
It was originally painted in bold colors. The artists are from Mexico and they paint in this traditional Mexican style. The winged cougar I believe is an Aztec god.

The UN has always been about peace and security; this is nothing new. That "knotted gun" statue has been up at UN headquarters for a long time.

From the artists' website:

Cougar.jpg
 

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Hi Marilyn,

Where is the power base then and who would be your guess as to whom it may be?
I realise we are all just guessing but it is interesting to see who everyone's guess is.
Hi Ruby,

Thank you for asking. I am now looking into the details and will probably start a thread when have more info.

What I do know at this point is that the False Prophet, (to the world not church) has two offices - Economic, (buying & selling) & religious, (worship).

So we follow the trail of where those two are developing together and who they will bring under their control. Thus we see the WEF with the religion of Climate Change and the gathering of public and private institutions esp, business to bring about the great reset in our society.

The WEF is situated in Europe and is even now implementing their plans throughout the businesses, multinational, and economic infrastructure (IMF, world bank etc) of the world.

The Global ID and CBDC are all coming together to enable control over citizens in this grand plan to save the world.

I`ll post more details when I have them. Marilyn.
 
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Hi Ruby,

Thank you for asking. I am now looking into the details and will probably start a thread when have more info.

What I do know at this point is that the False Prophet, (to the world not church) has two offices - Economic, (buying & selling) & religious, (worship).

So we follow the trail of where those two are developing together and who they will bring under their control. Thus we see the WEF with the religion of Climate Change and the gathering of public and private institutions esp, business to bring about the great reset in our society.

The WEF is situated in Europe and is even now implementing their plans throughout the businesses, multinational, and economic infrastructure (IMF, world bank etc) of the world.

The Global ID and CBDC are all coming together to enable control over citizens in this grand plan to save the world.

I`ll post more details when I have them. Marilyn.
I look forward to reading your new thread Marilyn (y):)
 

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Is anyone else familiar with this statue and symbol of a woman riding a beast and a woman sitting on a beast in Revelation 17?
That is the pagan goddess Europa riding a bull (which looks like a horse). Not quite the same as the woman riding the beast with seven heads and ten horns.
 

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Someone knows what the beasts in Dan. 7 and Rev.13 looks like -

Mouth of a lion,

Wings of an Eagle,

Feet of a Bear,

Body of a big cat.



And these are the emblems of those who are in control of the UN Council -

Lion - Britain,

Eagle - USA,

Bear - Russia,

Leopard - EU.



Interesting, Marilyn.
Too bad it didn't have 4 heads and 4 wings like the leopard in Daniel's vision but i guess they didnt want to make it too obvious .
 

Marilyn

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Too bad it didn't have 4 heads and 4 wings like the leopard in Daniel's vision but i guess they didnt want to make it too obvious .
Hi Lawrence,

Yes however the 4 heads (leadership) refers to the leaders at the beginning of the EU - France, Germany, Italy and Benelux, (Belgium, Netherlands & Luxembourg). The `wings` refers to imperialistic expansion. (4 - 27 today)

Also the emblems are God`s description and not man`s. God is revealing how man has developed these great Federations of our time.
 

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Hi Lawrence,

Yes however the 4 heads (leadership) refers to the leaders at the beginning of the EU - France, Germany, Italy and Benelux, (Belgium, Netherlands & Luxembourg). The `wings` refers to imperialistic expansion. (4 - 27 today)

Also the emblems are God`s description and not man`s. God is revealing how man has developed these great Federations of our time.
Yes appears to be a parallel there. Also its bin tossed around in the media that French president Machon may vie for the presidential head of the EU, that's assuming he wins the next upcoming election.