Simple Logic and Using Your God-Given Senses Easily Proves the Earth is not Globular.

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You should call it from the corner. And reading your posts, I'm guessing you are no stranger to corners.
Not sure what that means, but it could be my simple, reptilian mind. If you're referring to my predatorial preoccupation with feeding ground territory, then I gotcha :D
 
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the flat earthers say that antarctcia is the ice wall at the end of the earth, so pack warm when you go!!
Do you fall off the edge once you get past all the ice?? Or, do you float? Or, do you get sucked around to the other side? Weeeeeee!!!!! Surely the FE intelligentsia here have the answers.

The only thing I remember from down under was Ghidorah. Idiot humans woke up from a deep, suspended sleep. :rolleyes:
 

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Not sure what that means, but it could be my simple, reptilian mind. If you're referring to my predatorial preoccupation with feeding ground territory, then I gotcha :D
I was thinking you have an active imagination. That coupled with a sense of adventure often leads to a nose in the corner.
 
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The sun has darkened many times i have seen a red moon. The son darkened the day they murdered Jesus agree?
I agree. But the day Jesus died isn't the Day of the Lord. The sun will darken yet again, and the moon turn to blood, "before the great and terrible day of the Lord". Just as I believe this refers to a literal sun and moon, the same passages refer to literal stars falling from the sky.

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I have not done the research or read this whole thread are you a 'flat earther' ? if so why
I believe the Earth is flat. It started when I read about Joshua commanding the sun to stand still, and scripture recording that the sun indeed did stop still. God knows all things. If He made a heliocentric universe, He would readily have recorded He stopped the Earth spinning, not that the sun and moon stood still. Also note in Genesis He doesn't record anything about putting the Earth in motion. This would have been kind of a big step to miss, if Heliocentricity were true.

At that point, I started to become a geocentrist. The more I read scripture, the more I realised there was no support in scripture for a ball-Earth - if anything, scripture implied a flat Earth. I simultaneously started looking into the science behind heliocentrism, and checked the calculations to demonstrate that lighthouses can be seen on the ocean from further away than the horizon would allow on a ball-Earth. Water is necessary for proving Earth is flat, as land is not necessarily flat, but water will always find it's own level, so most valid tests for Earth's curvature are done over water.

The more I've looked into heliocentricity, the more I realise it is an imposed theory - no science requires it. It's like Evolution's closet-bound cousin. My observation is that Earth is flat, so logic and science direct that this should be my default position, unless it can be proven otherwise.

Most of the stars falling from the sky verses do not have them falling to earth.

Satan was the bright morning star who fell to earth...
Gary already posted the scriptural evidence describing the stars falling to Earth. But even if they didn't fall to Earth (and they fell somewhere else), if they are millions of light-years away, how are we even going to see it unless we are waiting around for millions of years? Heliocentricity doesn't add up.
 

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I agree. But the day Jesus died isn't the Day of the Lord. The sun will darken yet again, and the moon turn to blood, "before the great and terrible day of the Lord". Just as I believe this refers to a literal sun and moon, the same passages refer to literal stars falling from the sky.

I believe the Earth is flat. It started when I read about Joshua commanding the sun to stand still, and scripture recording that the sun indeed did stop still. God knows all things. If He made a heliocentric universe, He would readily have recorded He stopped the Earth spinning, not that the sun and moon stood still. Also note in Genesis He doesn't record anything about putting the Earth in motion. This would have been kind of a big step to miss, if Heliocentricity were true.

At that point, I started to become a geocentrist. The more I read scripture, the more I realised there was no support in scripture for a ball-Earth - if anything, scripture implied a flat Earth. I simultaneously started looking into the science behind heliocentrism, and checked the calculations to demonstrate that lighthouses can be seen on the ocean from further away than the horizon would allow on a ball-Earth. Water is necessary for proving Earth is flat, as land is not necessarily flat, but water will always find it's own level, so most valid tests for Earth's curvature are done over water.

The more I've looked into heliocentricity, the more I realise it is an imposed theory - no science requires it. It's like Evolution's closet-bound cousin. My observation is that Earth is flat, so logic and science direct that this should be my default position, unless it can be proven otherwise.

Gary already posted the scriptural evidence describing the stars falling to Earth. But even if they didn't fall to Earth (and they fell somewhere else), if they are millions of light-years away, how are we even going to see it unless we are waiting around for millions of years? Heliocentricity doesn't add up.
We are not going to agree but thank you for a solid clear reply it is refreshing!
 

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Gary already posted the scriptural evidence describing the stars falling to Earth. But even if they didn't fall to Earth (and they fell somewhere else), if they are millions of light-years away, how are we even going to see it unless we are waiting around for millions of years? Heliocentricity doesn't add up.
I looked up the verses that mention stars falling and very, very few said they fell to Earth. Most simply seemed to be talking about the dissolution of the universe. Does the Bible say you are going to see it? You seem to assume it does, whereas it does not.
 
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I looked up the verses that mention stars falling and very, very few said they fell to Earth. Most simply seemed to be talking about the dissolution of the universe. Does the Bible say you are going to see it? You seem to assume it does, whereas it does not.
Why mention it, then?
 

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No - the ice wall is not "at the end of the earth" - it is the "container" for the oceans. The "end of the earth" is far beyond the ice wall - hundreds if not thousands of miles beyond the ice wall.
AH!!! That's where Never Never land is!!!! How could I have been so Iggorant?? Wait - no Since there was an ocean for the Jolly Roger (Hook's ship) to sail in. So what's on the thousands of miles on the other side of the "Ice wall"???
 

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How thick is the flat earth? With a flat earth there is no need of gravity? What of the tides? Where does the sun go at night?
 

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Not sure what to make of all these theories, but the one that saddens me the most is flat earth. Flat earthers have no international dateline. So where do international couples gather to begin relationships?
On the bright side, tours for viewing the backside of dirt have never been in greater demand.
Thank God for silver linings.
 

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So what's on the thousands of miles on the other side of the "Ice wall"???
Ice.

Rock.

Snow.

Military installations. (apparently)

That is about all we know at this point... (that I am aware of - no doubt the military knows a bit more)
 

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Not sure what to make of all these theories, but the one that saddens me the most is flat earth. Flat earthers have no international dateline. So where do international couples gather to begin relationships?
On the bright side, tours for viewing the backside of dirt have never been in greater demand.
Thank God for silver linings.
You asked for it. Now there is gonna be a flat earther dating app. . Where flat earth science meets and procreates.

 

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You asked for it. Now there is gonna be a flat earther dating app. . Where flat earth science meets and procreates.

Now that is the kind of outside the globe thinking that has been missing in this thread.
 

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Now that is the kind of outside the globe thinking that has been missing in this thread.
I have been sobering up lately, so I might not be as fun now. lol Although, I been far more productive in life. Imagine that?

Yeah, I think your a natural goof ball, must admit, I have my moments as well. lol

Globalist are carrying the company line, flat earthers are misguided rebels, and pretty much everyone thinks, concave hollow earthers are a laughing stock.

All I got to say about that, he who laughs last, laughs the longest. :)
 

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I have been sobering up lately, so I might not be as fun now. lol Although, I been far more productive in life. Imagine that?

Yeah, I think your a natural goof ball, must admit, I have my moments as well. lol

Globalist are carrying the company line, flat earthers are misguided rebels, and pretty much everyone thinks, concave hollow earthers are a laughing stock.

All I got to say about that, he who laughs last, laughs the longest. :)
Certainly our inner goofball has bonded. I like your concave idea. I think as people age and get glasses your hopes of more people seeing your point of view will grow. One more benefit of aging.
 
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AH!!! That's where Never Never land is!!!! How could I have been so Iggorant?? Wait - no Since there was an ocean for the Jolly Roger (Hook's ship) to sail in. So what's on the thousands of miles on the other side of the "Ice wall"???
Game of Thrones land
 

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Certainly our inner goofball has bonded. I like your concave idea. I think as people age and get glasses your hopes of more people seeing your point of view will grow. One more benefit of aging.

It's possible I suppose, but the Universal bias is strong, especially when main stream science is so dominant. To be honest, it's really flat earth propaganda, that got me to question. Talk about rabbit whole, it's been a 7 year journey into never, never land. lol

Not sure it's an age thing, sometimes people get even more close minded, when they get older. It's really a case by case basis.

Thanks for the vote of confidence, by the way. I don't really care, if people's views change, it's more important to know what's true, and how to apply wisdom. I just don't like being lied to, it's hard to make good choices, when you don't know the facts.